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yeah

so James Corden, who was hosting, very politely asked her to wrap her acceptance speech up and she got all stroppy and flipped the bird because she is Adele, queen of the world, and the fact the Brits are broadcast live and television channels have schedules to run to is irrelevant.

I thought it wasn't ever since jarvis cocker.

Double standards.

"Nothing makes me prouder than coming home with six Grammys and then coming to the Brits and winning album of the year. I'm so proud to be British and to be flying our flag." SIX GRAMMYS, WOW!

she was clearly flustered and had had a few drinks, so she made an immature gesture to the executives who run the show. It's hard to get worked up about, at least she has a bit of personality.

PUNK 4 LIFE

I find all the abuse she seems to get a bit unsettling really, seems to veer dangerously close to misogyny to me. She's just a really talented singer with really boring songs.

The only annoyance I have is that Rolling in the Deep is now lodged in my skull and will be for ages.

is bound to be an awful person whether they're a woman or not

It's misogynistic to jump straight to the conclusion that any reaction to what she does has something to do with the fact she's a woman. She's just a dick who think she's entitled to whatever she wants because she's sold a few records.

Great voice, a few great songs, seems like a decent girl.

because I fucking do. You'd think she'd appreciate someone telling her when enough's enough.

She's just won an award. And has come back from another place where she won some more awards very, very recently. Not beyond the pale to mention them is it? Especially in a thankful context...

All this Adele bashing gets my goat.

Eric Bristow gave me the v's once, never thought badly of him for it.

Between 1989 and 2007 they were held the day before transmission.

Just to clarify, I wasn't accusing you or anyone else here of misogyny, it was more of a wider not-fully formed opinion if anything.

I'm just not sure why so many people seem so quick to stick the boot in for her when as far as I can tell her only crime is being cripplingly innocuous musically.

Are you just trying to get the most viewed thread of the year?
Has sean put you up to this?

that the speech wouldn't have needed to be cut off had it not wasted three or four minutes on Corden chatting to One Direction before Blur were presented with their award.

Has a decent personality. Remember who shes giving the finger to...I'm fairly placid but if James Corden told me to do anything, even politely, Id rip his throat out with my bare teeth and use his intestines as a hat the fat unfunny motherfucker

OH MY GOD I WON SIX GRAMMYS DID YOU KNOW?? SIX! I'M SO PROUD OF ALL YOU BRITISH PEOPLE BECAUSE I WON SIX GRAMMYS.

^That's what she's like

1988 was the first year that the show moved to the Royal Albert Hall. A major coup at the time was to get The Who to perform, which was intended to be the first appearance of their much awaited comeback. The show was running late because the amount of time needed for the winners to get to stage to collect their awards had been underestimated. Rick Astley was the final winner of the day, and was seated in a box rather than at a table. With 9:00 pm and the news broadcast fast approaching, the decision was made to let The Who on and Astley was half-way to the stage when the band started playing. Even with this change, The Who's performance was still going to overrun, and the BBC took the decision to delay the 9:00pm news by over a minute.

And I have thought see was a tit ever since she said she hates paying taxes because she can't use the bus because she's SO FAMOUS.

I found the finger throwing pretty childish

Liam Gallagher et al.

she was actually in the middle of saying how proud she was to be British and to be representing the UK which seemed like a heartfelt and genuine thing to say at such an occasion.
it was right clanger to have her pulled off at that moment, as Corden said after why couldnt they just.. delay the sodding news for 90 seconds or whatever. i mean don't they do that for sport? i'm sure they do.

i thought last night was a mess; all those random shots of corporate suits having their annual knees up and waking past teh camera. we KNOW that's the reality of the industry behind the scenes but by Christ you don't have to show that to the world.

It hurts sometimes.

But emulation is not the only coping strategy.

Waste your hatred on something more deserving, please.

Fuck her

They wouldn't want to piss off their core audience too much.

I just don't get why it even comes up, like when that girl posted in response to someone's comment on all those "I'd like Chris Brown beat me any day!" tweets, "Why do you hate women?" and everyone was like "Woo, you go girl!" No, you don't go girl, you stop. Stop right fucking there. No one hates women, they just hate idiots who happen to be women. And Adele.

As if the world needs to hear Parklife any more times.

i just love a tirade

In fairness ITV have got a history of accidentally cutting off football which is running over as well.

did you mean for taxis?
or taxes?
BUS TAX.

trollin' in the deep

but to jump to the conclusion somebody hates a person because of their gender is hardly helpful to anyone's cause.

http://drownedinsound.com/community/boards/social/4275555

Think you're the one who needs some perspective if you're starting threads on message boards calling girls who are a lot younger than you a cunt or whatever, pal.

I think there is an element of sexism about it though.

It seems to me a lot of people's opinions on her seem to range from some patronising, back-patting schtick about how good it is that she writes her own songs and how well she's done to succeed without being a traditionally attractive woman etc to just out and out vitriol and both are somewhat forged by the fact that she's a bigger girl (or was).

Like I said, I've not got anything approaching a fully-formed opinion on it all but I just find it a bit unsettling the way people react to her.

if this is the big talking point.

I think strong opinions are kind of inevitable.

Next time I think about typing 5 words and pressing enter, I'm gonna have a sit down, take a deep breath and count to 10. Also Adele's like a year younger than me, you utter knob-monkey.

not liking adele isn't misogynist. lots of people probably do attack adele in misogynist terms. it's not even about hating someone 'just because they are a woman', it's about framing the hatred in a totally different way than they would for a male equivalent. idk though i've never paid much attention to adele

She believes that she pays too much tax because she can't get the bus.

In her benevolent wisdom she also declared the NHS 'a bit rubs like'

Nail on the head, that's the sentence I've wanted to be able to form.

When James Corden went to interrupt, I thought he was either going to make a terrible joke or tell her there had been a terrible mistake and someone else had won.

I blame the ramblings of Damon Albarn. Also One Direction for taking it in turn for all 5 of them to thank the "fans" (12 year old girls who fancy them). They could have let her finish and just have let Blur fade out. Seems they did anyway.

Wasn't aimed at you specifically or this thread specifically, it's about the way people respond to her on a wider scale. [INSERT FAT JOKE HERE]

Is there a cash prize?

What fresh hell is this?

I find all the abuse he seems to get a bit unsettling really, seems to veer dangerously close to a hate-crime to me.

He's just a really boring singer with really boring songs.

The only annoyance I have is that A-Team is now lodged in my skull and will be for ages.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2012/feb/22/brit-awards-one-direction

He has a whole back story that's totally DiS-friendly - years of gigging, sleeping on sofas, self released records, etc etc. Maybe the music is boring, but that's never stopped people on here fapping over a load of other stuff. He's perfectly inoffensive.

i respect these people

But without the bit about respecting those people.

I'm too exhausted by my own cynicism to hate either of them frankly.

I know 'it's only the internet' and people talk in hyperbole as standard, but it just bums me out. People should stop getting so worked up. Where's cat_race when you need him?

or Jens Lekman

Moreso in actual life than on the internet as well. It is exhausting though you're right.

and lives in the room next door to mine. Otherwise I wouldn't care like I don't particularly care about Ed Sheeran but i hate Frank Turner a lot.

as if you just compared ed sheeran to jens lekman

I've never been sure why people who can avoid him hate him though. He's just not for this demographic is he? It's sixth-form politics in song form for sixth-formers, he's probably a pretty good gateway artist for a lot of kids so on that level he's fine by me.

What a patronising post. Sorry.

https://twitter.com/#!/Joey7Barton/status/172077511684014081

F*CK U BRITAWARDS

In the real world of real people who listen to commercial radio it doesn't happen. People always used to say it of Busted and McFly. No, their fans have no more engagement with the heart of music than Capital or Heart on in the kitchen but might go and see Maroon 5.

(Possibly unfair on Busted given Charlie always went on about Biffy Clyro and wore a Sonic Youth T-shirt on CD:UK, but I imagine those may just as easily be Matt Cardle's audience now)

and that poor people could all go fuck themselves?

oh ok!

That's pretty nuts, even for you... but, whatever.

Lily Allen has said something to the NME about it

http://www.nme.com/news/adele/62206

it was a tweet

even better

she has a point though

she has a fantastic singing voice.

don't really care about her other stuff/her opinions.

tbf ian curtis was a misogynistic quasi-nazi but you lot jizz pints of jizz over him.

it's a metaphor

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9_nsXgtD6k

then

"The treatment of women in the industry? Why, it's like an actor interrupting a balladeer's Best Album acceptance speech because the awards ceremony is overrunning and the broadcaster is impatient!"

Also, was there really a suggestion she was giving the finger to her own fans?

From certain angles

To think that this is what musicians are working against these days, even if it is shit non-musicians in this instance.

How does he have time to watch TV and comment on all these mundane things that normal people like? What are the other footballers doing while you're on your arse twittering about Eastenders?

Misogynistic quasi-nazi? Na, he was just a better songwriter than Adele will ever be.

I'm not really sure what Lily Allen's on about. There's a lot to criticise about how women how treated in the music industry but I certainly don't think the fact that the producers wanted to get Blur on asap is any thing to do with anyone's gender...

I've not actually seen which Adele did but there was that furore over the Grammys last week too. Is it really that big a deal?

don't cry about it

because apparently this is still 1951

and also did it that time that little girl forgot the words for Edelweiss on Britain's Got Talent and Cowelll insisted she got another chance to do it.

The best solution would just be to produce it better.

But he started playing this acoustic stuff akin to the match.com girl on the platform song with some bits of like almost rapping. People enjoy this these days>? Truly end of days stuff

Just didn't think he was a nazi at all, or a misogynist. He sings mainly of despair - no mention of nazis or women. Adele has no subtlety, she should never even be compared to Ian Curtis.

High-class posting, you two.

I'd consider him to be the same as a band like Muse for me insofar as I heard them on Radio all the time and they were ostensibly mainstream but being exposed to and falling in love with them led me to seek out much *better* music.

I'm not sure who ever said it about Busted or McFly but they're really far away from what I was talking about as a *gateway artist* (Although my little brother was WELL into Busted when he was a lad and is now a punk so maybe there is something in that)

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/feb/06/mia-super-bowl-gesture-v-sign

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Touching-Distance-Deborah-Curtis/dp/0571239560/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1329995384&sr=8-1

http://drownedinsound.com/community/boards/social/4275555#r5791031

Amazing, <3 you mits

and he was like "Alright there mate? Just at work at the minute" was possibly the best thing James Corden has ever done

It's all very contrived, especially that you need me I don't need you song. Wish people would stop asking me why I hate him when they say they love him, he's fucking horrible. Couldn't give a fuck about the colour of his hair, he's the one saying thanks to his label for believing in him when he was just a ginger kid. Fuck off, Sheeran

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-17138664

not dispicable

He wears his own Ed Sheeran t-shirt in his new video. I hate him, for some reason. I can't put my finger on it but I think it has something to do with the shape of his head/face.

Adele, I like her. I like that her voice is so good and so nice but then she opens her mouth to talk normally and its all common, sweary and raspy.
She looks really nice now as well. She didn't look awful before but she looks really nice now. Her hair is good. I want her hair.

http://yfrog.com/message/thread/id/1_173066963789164544

silly coal chamber

but with Ron Weasley as his stalker