so James Corden, who was hosting, very politely asked her to wrap her acceptance speech up and she got all stroppy and flipped the bird because she is Adele, queen of the world, and the fact the Brits are broadcast live and television channels have schedules to run to is irrelevant.
"Nothing makes me prouder than coming home with six Grammys and then coming to the Brits and winning album of the year. I'm so proud to be British and to be flying our flag." SIX GRAMMYS, WOW!
she was clearly flustered and had had a few drinks, so she made an immature gesture to the executives who run the show. It's hard to get worked up about, at least she has a bit of personality.
I find all the abuse she seems to get a bit unsettling really, seems to veer dangerously close to misogyny to me. She's just a really talented singer with really boring songs.
The only annoyance I have is that Rolling in the Deep is now lodged in my skull and will be for ages.
She's just won an award. And has come back from another place where she won some more awards very, very recently. Not beyond the pale to mention them is it? Especially in a thankful context...
Think you're the one who needs some perspective if you're starting threads on message boards calling girls who are a lot younger than you a cunt or whatever, pal.
Next time I think about typing 5 words and pressing enter, I'm gonna have a sit down, take a deep breath and count to 10. Also Adele's like a year younger than me, you utter knob-monkey.
It's misogynistic to jump straight to the conclusion that any reaction to what she does has something to do with the fact she's a woman. She's just a dick who think she's entitled to whatever she wants because she's sold a few records.
Just to clarify, I wasn't accusing you or anyone else here of misogyny, it was more of a wider not-fully formed opinion if anything.
I'm just not sure why so many people seem so quick to stick the boot in for her when as far as I can tell her only crime is being cripplingly innocuous musically.
I just don't get why it even comes up, like when that girl posted in response to someone's comment on all those "I'd like Chris Brown beat me any day!" tweets, "Why do you hate women?" and everyone was like "Woo, you go girl!" No, you don't go girl, you stop. Stop right fucking there. No one hates women, they just hate idiots who happen to be women. And Adele.
I think there is an element of sexism about it though.
It seems to me a lot of people's opinions on her seem to range from some patronising, back-patting schtick about how good it is that she writes her own songs and how well she's done to succeed without being a traditionally attractive woman etc to just out and out vitriol and both are somewhat forged by the fact that she's a bigger girl (or was).
Like I said, I've not got anything approaching a fully-formed opinion on it all but I just find it a bit unsettling the way people react to her.
not liking adele isn't misogynist. lots of people probably do attack adele in misogynist terms. it's not even about hating someone 'just because they are a woman', it's about framing the hatred in a totally different way than they would for a male equivalent. idk though i've never paid much attention to adele
that the speech wouldn't have needed to be cut off had it not wasted three or four minutes on Corden chatting to One Direction before Blur were presented with their award.
Has a decent personality. Remember who shes giving the finger to...I'm fairly placid but if James Corden told me to do anything, even politely, Id rip his throat out with my bare teeth and use his intestines as a hat the fat unfunny motherfucker
1988 was the first year that the show moved to the Royal Albert Hall. A major coup at the time was to get The Who to perform, which was intended to be the first appearance of their much awaited comeback. The show was running late because the amount of time needed for the winners to get to stage to collect their awards had been underestimated. Rick Astley was the final winner of the day, and was seated in a box rather than at a table. With 9:00 pm and the news broadcast fast approaching, the decision was made to let The Who on and Astley was half-way to the stage when the band started playing. Even with this change, The Who's performance was still going to overrun, and the BBC took the decision to delay the 9:00pm news by over a minute.
she was actually in the middle of saying how proud she was to be British and to be representing the UK which seemed like a heartfelt and genuine thing to say at such an occasion.
it was right clanger to have her pulled off at that moment, as Corden said after why couldnt they just.. delay the sodding news for 90 seconds or whatever. i mean don't they do that for sport? i'm sure they do.
i thought last night was a mess; all those random shots of corporate suits having their annual knees up and waking past teh camera. we KNOW that's the reality of the industry behind the scenes but by Christ you don't have to show that to the world.
and also did it that time that little girl forgot the words for Edelweiss on Britain's Got Talent and Cowelll insisted she got another chance to do it.
The best solution would just be to produce it better.
When James Corden went to interrupt, I thought he was either going to make a terrible joke or tell her there had been a terrible mistake and someone else had won.
I blame the ramblings of Damon Albarn. Also One Direction for taking it in turn for all 5 of them to thank the "fans" (12 year old girls who fancy them). They could have let her finish and just have let Blur fade out. Seems they did anyway.
He has a whole back story that's totally DiS-friendly - years of gigging, sleeping on sofas, self released records, etc etc. Maybe the music is boring, but that's never stopped people on here fapping over a load of other stuff. He's perfectly inoffensive.
I know 'it's only the internet' and people talk in hyperbole as standard, but it just bums me out. People should stop getting so worked up. Where's cat_race when you need him?
I've never been sure why people who can avoid him hate him though. He's just not for this demographic is he? It's sixth-form politics in song form for sixth-formers, he's probably a pretty good gateway artist for a lot of kids so on that level he's fine by me.
In the real world of real people who listen to commercial radio it doesn't happen. People always used to say it of Busted and McFly. No, their fans have no more engagement with the heart of music than Capital or Heart on in the kitchen but might go and see Maroon 5.
(Possibly unfair on Busted given Charlie always went on about Biffy Clyro and wore a Sonic Youth T-shirt on CD:UK, but I imagine those may just as easily be Matt Cardle's audience now)
I'd consider him to be the same as a band like Muse for me insofar as I heard them on Radio all the time and they were ostensibly mainstream but being exposed to and falling in love with them led me to seek out much *better* music.
I'm not sure who ever said it about Busted or McFly but they're really far away from what I was talking about as a *gateway artist* (Although my little brother was WELL into Busted when he was a lad and is now a punk so maybe there is something in that)
It's all very contrived, especially that you need me I don't need you song. Wish people would stop asking me why I hate him when they say they love him, he's fucking horrible. Couldn't give a fuck about the colour of his hair, he's the one saying thanks to his label for believing in him when he was just a ginger kid. Fuck off, Sheeran
But he started playing this acoustic stuff akin to the match.com girl on the platform song with some bits of like almost rapping. People enjoy this these days>? Truly end of days stuff
How does he have time to watch TV and comment on all these mundane things that normal people like? What are the other footballers doing while you're on your arse twittering about Eastenders?
"The treatment of women in the industry? Why, it's like an actor interrupting a balladeer's Best Album acceptance speech because the awards ceremony is overrunning and the broadcaster is impatient!"
Also, was there really a suggestion she was giving the finger to her own fans?
I'm not really sure what Lily Allen's on about. There's a lot to criticise about how women how treated in the music industry but I certainly don't think the fact that the producers wanted to get Blur on asap is any thing to do with anyone's gender...
Just didn't think he was a nazi at all, or a misogynist. He sings mainly of despair - no mention of nazis or women. Adele has no subtlety, she should never even be compared to Ian Curtis.
He wears his own Ed Sheeran t-shirt in his new video. I hate him, for some reason. I can't put my finger on it but I think it has something to do with the shape of his head/face.
Adele, I like her. I like that her voice is so good and so nice but then she opens her mouth to talk normally and its all common, sweary and raspy.
She looks really nice now as well. She didn't look awful before but she looks really nice now. Her hair is good. I want her hair.
I still don't understand what happened
please explain
The Brits were running over time
so James Corden, who was hosting, very politely asked her to wrap her acceptance speech up and she got all stroppy and flipped the bird because she is Adele, queen of the world, and the fact the Brits are broadcast live and television channels have schedules to run to is irrelevant.
is it live?
I thought it wasn't ever since jarvis cocker.
That wasn't live either
Between 1989 and 2007 they were held the day before transmission.
Oh, and she said
"Nothing makes me prouder than coming home with six Grammys and then coming to the Brits and winning album of the year. I'm so proud to be British and to be flying our flag." SIX GRAMMYS, WOW!
She said afterwards she had more people to thank, including the public who bought her records,
she was clearly flustered and had had a few drinks, so she made an immature gesture to the executives who run the show. It's hard to get worked up about, at least she has a bit of personality.
PUNK 4 LIFE
Really? Haven't seen it.
^
yeah
Yep.
If Belle & Sebastian didn't something as punk as that, DiS would be spaffing itself.
Double standards.
Good post bro.
Meh, I can't allow myself to get worked up by someone giving a finger
I find all the abuse she seems to get a bit unsettling really, seems to veer dangerously close to misogyny to me. She's just a really talented singer with really boring songs.
The only annoyance I have is that Rolling in the Deep is now lodged in my skull and will be for ages.
Anyone that manages to shoehorn in the fact that th.ey won six grammy's into ANYTHING they say
is bound to be an awful person whether they're a woman or not
but yeah some people are just sexists
^
Eric Bristow gave me the v's once, never thought badly of him for it.
Not really shoehorning it in though is it?
She's just won an award. And has come back from another place where she won some more awards very, very recently. Not beyond the pale to mention them is it? Especially in a thankful context...
All this Adele bashing gets my goat.
It is though
OH MY GOD I WON SIX GRAMMYS DID YOU KNOW?? SIX! I'M SO PROUD OF ALL YOU BRITISH PEOPLE BECAUSE I WON SIX GRAMMYS.
^That's what she's like
BIG FUCKING DEAL!
Waste your hatred on something more deserving, please.
I don't hate her
i just love a tirade
Alright, calm down
My capitals were a mocking reciprocation, not an expression of anger.
Think you're the one who needs some perspective if you're starting threads on message boards calling girls who are a lot younger than you a cunt or whatever, pal.
Yeah, you're right, sorry
Next time I think about typing 5 words and pressing enter, I'm gonna have a sit down, take a deep breath and count to 10. Also Adele's like a year younger than me, you utter knob-monkey.
Wow.
That's pretty nuts, even for you... but, whatever.
Oh ffs
It's misogynistic to jump straight to the conclusion that any reaction to what she does has something to do with the fact she's a woman. She's just a dick who think she's entitled to whatever she wants because she's sold a few records.
If you're going to accuse me of anything, accuse me of hating fat people
because I fucking do. You'd think she'd appreciate someone telling her when enough's enough.
Blimey!
Just to clarify, I wasn't accusing you or anyone else here of misogyny, it was more of a wider not-fully formed opinion if anything.
I'm just not sure why so many people seem so quick to stick the boot in for her when as far as I can tell her only crime is being cripplingly innocuous musically.
I know you weren't accusing my of misogyny Ant, sorry, you're okay
I just don't get why it even comes up, like when that girl posted in response to someone's comment on all those "I'd like Chris Brown beat me any day!" tweets, "Why do you hate women?" and everyone was like "Woo, you go girl!" No, you don't go girl, you stop. Stop right fucking there. No one hates women, they just hate idiots who happen to be women. And Adele.
No one hates women, they just hate idiots who happen to be women.
trollin' in the deep
Okay, some people hate women
but to jump to the conclusion somebody hates a person because of their gender is hardly helpful to anyone's cause.
I dunno
I think there is an element of sexism about it though.
It seems to me a lot of people's opinions on her seem to range from some patronising, back-patting schtick about how good it is that she writes her own songs and how well she's done to succeed without being a traditionally attractive woman etc to just out and out vitriol and both are somewhat forged by the fact that she's a bigger girl (or was).
Like I said, I've not got anything approaching a fully-formed opinion on it all but I just find it a bit unsettling the way people react to her.
She's currently the biggest-selling artist in the world (maybe)
I think strong opinions are kind of inevitable.
^
not liking adele isn't misogynist. lots of people probably do attack adele in misogynist terms. it's not even about hating someone 'just because they are a woman', it's about framing the hatred in a totally different way than they would for a male equivalent. idk though i've never paid much attention to adele
*It's about framing the hatred in a totally different way than they would for a male equivalent*
Nail on the head, that's the sentence I've wanted to be able to form.
"Wow, what a cunt"?
he already said he wasn't talking about you
Why did it come into the thread then?
BECAUSE LIFE ISN'T FAIR, ZAPSTA
Like I said, my initial post which started all this (which I now deeply regret, I've followed Lucien's flowchart really badly for the first time in my DiS career)
Wasn't aimed at you specifically or this thread specifically, it's about the way people respond to her on a wider scale. [INSERT FAT JOKE HERE]
i do have that rolling in the deep song embedded in my head now though
pretty sure she's lost a lot of weight recently
ADELE LOST WEIGHT
Ahhh Morrissey_ you were the one that got away
http://drownedinsound.com/community/boards/social/4275555
I just noticed this post
http://drownedinsound.com/community/boards/social/4275555#r5791031
Amazing, <3 you mits
Are you just trolling?
Are you just trying to get the most viewed thread of the year?
Has sean put you up to this?
*million
Nah, I like her.
Great voice, a few great songs, seems like a decent girl.
SHEZ NOT GOING TO SLEEP WIV UU NO
Nobody seems to be pointing out
that the speech wouldn't have needed to be cut off had it not wasted three or four minutes on Corden chatting to One Direction before Blur were presented with their award.
Shit songs
Has a decent personality. Remember who shes giving the finger to...I'm fairly placid but if James Corden told me to do anything, even politely, Id rip his throat out with my bare teeth and use his intestines as a hat the fat unfunny motherfucker
no you wouldn't
Hmm
1988 was the first year that the show moved to the Royal Albert Hall. A major coup at the time was to get The Who to perform, which was intended to be the first appearance of their much awaited comeback. The show was running late because the amount of time needed for the winners to get to stage to collect their awards had been underestimated. Rick Astley was the final winner of the day, and was seated in a box rather than at a table. With 9:00 pm and the news broadcast fast approaching, the decision was made to let The Who on and Astley was half-way to the stage when the band started playing. Even with this change, The Who's performance was still going to overrun, and the BBC took the decision to delay the 9:00pm news by over a minute.
I don't really like her music
And I have thought see was a tit ever since she said she hates paying taxes because she can't use the bus because she's SO FAMOUS.
I found the finger throwing pretty childish
Oh yea, I forgot she did that moaning about taxes
Fuck her
wait
did you mean for taxis?
or taxes?
BUS TAX.
Taxes
She believes that she pays too much tax because she can't get the bus.
In her benevolent wisdom she also declared the NHS 'a bit rubs like'
Personality
yeah alot of people complain about tax this is normal
not dispicable
Rich people complaining about tax is both normal and despicable
i'd have done much the same tbh if someone interrupted me. you can imagine what *some* folk would have done instead;
Liam Gallagher et al.
she was actually in the middle of saying how proud she was to be British and to be representing the UK which seemed like a heartfelt and genuine thing to say at such an occasion.
it was right clanger to have her pulled off at that moment, as Corden said after why couldnt they just.. delay the sodding news for 90 seconds or whatever. i mean don't they do that for sport? i'm sure they do.
i thought last night was a mess; all those random shots of corporate suits having their annual knees up and waking past teh camera. we KNOW that's the reality of the industry behind the scenes but by Christ you don't have to show that to the world.
They cut Blur off anyway (which didn't even matter as it ran straight onto ITV2 anyway).
As if the world needs to hear Parklife any more times.
Parklife >>> award acceptance speeches.
They delay the news for sport,
and also did it that time that little girl forgot the words for Edelweiss on Britain's Got Talent and Cowelll insisted she got another chance to do it.
The best solution would just be to produce it better.
When that guy walked past as Corden was doing the piece to camera
and he was like "Alright there mate? Just at work at the minute" was possibly the best thing James Corden has ever done
Hey, we all miss Martbowski a little bit.
It hurts sometimes.
But emulation is not the only coping strategy.
Why did the Brits have to stick to such a strict schedule when football games freqently run over and don't get cut off?
It was on ITV, the home of the soccer yob.
They wouldn't want to piss off their core audience too much.
You obviously haven't seen much ITV football coverage
Because events of that nature can run to a schedule whereas the nature of sport means it's impossible to impose the same timekeeping with it.
In fairness ITV have got a history of accidentally cutting off football which is running over as well.
Do you think she could defeat a 6ft croc?
Yes
From certain angles
The Brits must have been even duller than usual this year
if this is the big talking point.
I didn't even see the middle finger
When James Corden went to interrupt, I thought he was either going to make a terrible joke or tell her there had been a terrible mistake and someone else had won.
I blame the ramblings of Damon Albarn. Also One Direction for taking it in turn for all 5 of them to thank the "fans" (12 year old girls who fancy them). They could have let her finish and just have let Blur fade out. Seems they did anyway.
So?
Is there a cash prize?
Sub Thread: Last night was my first encounter with the one known as Ed Sheeran
What fresh hell is this?
Meh, I can't allow myself to get worked up by someone being ginger
I find all the abuse he seems to get a bit unsettling really, seems to veer dangerously close to a hate-crime to me.
He's just a really boring singer with really boring songs.
The only annoyance I have is that A-Team is now lodged in my skull and will be for ages.
I think people have by and large accepted the ginger bit
I don't really get why he's so hated.
He has a whole back story that's totally DiS-friendly - years of gigging, sleeping on sofas, self released records, etc etc. Maybe the music is boring, but that's never stopped people on here fapping over a load of other stuff. He's perfectly inoffensive.
People also hate Frank Turner
i respect these people
Was just about to post LITERALLY the exact same thing
But without the bit about respecting those people.
I'm too exhausted by my own cynicism to hate either of them frankly.
Everything is so negative these days.
I know 'it's only the internet' and people talk in hyperbole as standard, but it just bums me out. People should stop getting so worked up. Where's cat_race when you need him?
I'm as guilty as anyone of it both positively and negatively.
Moreso in actual life than on the internet as well. It is exhausting though you're right.
It's only cos my flatmate ALWAYS plays him and similar shite folk music
and lives in the room next door to mine. Otherwise I wouldn't care like I don't particularly care about Ed Sheeran but i hate Frank Turner a lot.
I can definitely see why that would be annoying
I've never been sure why people who can avoid him hate him though. He's just not for this demographic is he? It's sixth-form politics in song form for sixth-formers, he's probably a pretty good gateway artist for a lot of kids so on that level he's fine by me.
What a patronising post. Sorry.
There's no such thing as "a gateway artist"
In the real world of real people who listen to commercial radio it doesn't happen. People always used to say it of Busted and McFly. No, their fans have no more engagement with the heart of music than Capital or Heart on in the kitchen but might go and see Maroon 5.
(Possibly unfair on Busted given Charlie always went on about Biffy Clyro and wore a Sonic Youth T-shirt on CD:UK, but I imagine those may just as easily be Matt Cardle's audience now)
Nah, not sure about that personally
I'd consider him to be the same as a band like Muse for me insofar as I heard them on Radio all the time and they were ostensibly mainstream but being exposed to and falling in love with them led me to seek out much *better* music.
I'm not sure who ever said it about Busted or McFly but they're really far away from what I was talking about as a *gateway artist* (Although my little brother was WELL into Busted when he was a lad and is now a punk so maybe there is something in that)
Please don't call Ed Sheeran 'folk music'.
Yeah, 'folk music' gives Ed Sheeran a bad name!
yeah but that's probably a PR creation and never actually happened
I just really struggle to care.
^this
It's all very contrived, especially that you need me I don't need you song. Wish people would stop asking me why I hate him when they say they love him, he's fucking horrible. Couldn't give a fuck about the colour of his hair, he's the one saying thanks to his label for believing in him when he was just a ginger kid. Fuck off, Sheeran
Plus he's an ugger
I had no idea who he was to be honest, I'm not really on the pulse of anything
But he started playing this acoustic stuff akin to the match.com girl on the platform song with some bits of like almost rapping. People enjoy this these days>? Truly end of days stuff
sounds like Ryan Adams
or Jens Lekman
:(((((((((
as if you just compared ed sheeran to jens lekman
He's basically a ginger Elliott Smith.
:D
High-class posting, you two.
man, this thread is ugly :(
her voice has definitely declined. Thought her performance at the Grammys was very MEH
I thought she phoned it in last night to be honest.
In other Brits fallout news, HA HA
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2012/feb/22/brit-awards-one-direction
:D
It's sad, really
To think that this is what musicians are working against these days, even if it is shit non-musicians in this instance.
Joey Barton wasn't happy:
https://twitter.com/#!/Joey7Barton/status/172077511684014081
F*CK U BRITAWARDS
He's not wrong, Damon sounded pony.
OH WOW JOEY YOU'RE SO OUTSPOKEN AND HONEST
Is Joey Barton a footballer?
How does he have time to watch TV and comment on all these mundane things that normal people like? What are the other footballers doing while you're on your arse twittering about Eastenders?
Don't like her accent, pretty sure she puts that common voice on on purpose
very bad thread
remember when she said that now she was rich she shouldn't have to pay any taxes
and that poor people could all go fuck themselves?
ctrl + f 'fat'
oh ok!
Oh Look
Lily Allen has said something to the NME about it
http://www.nme.com/news/adele/62206
oh wait
it was a tweet
even better
she has a point though
Is she suggesting that if Adele was a man she wouldn't have been interrupted?
naw
it's a metaphor
Yeah
good
then
It's not much of a metaphor
"The treatment of women in the industry? Why, it's like an actor interrupting a balladeer's Best Album acceptance speech because the awards ceremony is overrunning and the broadcaster is impatient!"
Also, was there really a suggestion she was giving the finger to her own fans?
Only 'cos the media stir things up.
I'm not really sure what Lily Allen's on about. There's a lot to criticise about how women how treated in the music industry but I certainly don't think the fact that the producers wanted to get Blur on asap is any thing to do with anyone's gender...
your male brain is thinking too literally
aren't you unemployed, mate?
i like rolling in the deep.
she has a fantastic singing voice.
don't really care about her other stuff/her opinions.
tbf ian curtis was a misogynistic quasi-nazi but you lot jizz pints of jizz over him.
Ummmm
Misogynistic quasi-nazi? Na, he was just a better songwriter than Adele will ever be.
and a misogynistic quasi-nazi
don't cry about it
Not crying
Just didn't think he was a nazi at all, or a misogynist. He sings mainly of despair - no mention of nazis or women. Adele has no subtlety, she should never even be compared to Ian Curtis.
...
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Touching-Distance-Deborah-Curtis/dp/0571239560/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1329995384&sr=8-1
he did vote Tory according to an Uncut article i half read in WH Smiths once.
...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9_nsXgtD6k
if you could care less then that means you must care at least a little
silly coal chamber
Why do people get so wound up over people flicking the middle finger/v-sign?
I've not actually seen which Adele did but there was that furore over the Grammys last week too. Is it really that big a deal?
yes it's a big deal
because apparently this is still 1951
Sometime DiSer AdamB wrote this about the Grammys, which I liked:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/feb/06/mia-super-bowl-gesture-v-sign
I much prefer the Vs to the finger
http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/society/'bring-back-british-hand-swearing'-201202224925/
She needs to lose about 2-3 stone to get into my inappropriate time capsule i am developing, not even photoshop can remove that gul-let
Oh bloody hell, calm down everyone
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-17138664
ffs
Oh, what a knight
RE: Ed Sheeran.
He wears his own Ed Sheeran t-shirt in his new video. I hate him, for some reason. I can't put my finger on it but I think it has something to do with the shape of his head/face.
Adele, I like her. I like that her voice is so good and so nice but then she opens her mouth to talk normally and its all common, sweary and raspy.
She looks really nice now as well. She didn't look awful before but she looks really nice now. Her hair is good. I want her hair.
I like that one of his videos is basically Eminem's Stan video
but with Ron Weasley as his stalker
I think I may actually have to kill someone
http://yfrog.com/message/thread/id/1_173066963789164544