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are you any good at them?
anyone got any tips?
i hate applying for jobs so much :(
They're often just testing you to make sure you can write a bespoke letter properly (with the correct format/ tone etc.)
In my experience of teaching applications, you want a condensed version of your CV and relating your experience as to why you're ideal for the job. They definitely shouldn't be more than one side of A4.
the dates/ads/sigs etc will obvs bump it up. but your actual content. am i making any sense at all?!
Try to structure it as 3 focussed paragraphs that draw attention to the areas of your CV that make you the best candidate for the job.
I'd like to know which cityboy The Apprentice type decided that a CV wasn't sufficient
that as well
If you can't argue succintly in a couple of paragraphs the reason why you would be suitable for the position it's probably not worth them reading your CV.
Hi, I applied for this job because I've never worked in an office before and probably won't know what I'm doing, more words more words more words more words more words more words more words more words more words more words more words more words more words more words more words more words more words
why you want the new job.
what job you do now.
why you want to leave the current job.
things from current job that will make you good at new job.
http://drownedinsound.com/community/boards/social/4298620 cos of the DanielKelly and nice_squirrel comments
These are the notes I'm working to:
-How did you hear about the job?
-Why were you interested in applying for the job?
-How do your skills meet the person specification for the job?
-Why would you in particular be really good at it?
-Keep it relatively short; no paragraphs longer than 5 lines, no more than 3 or 4 paragraphs
-Immediately outline your skills, their direct relevance to the position you are applying for and evidence your claims. Do NOT just state you are good at something or have a certain skill set - demonstrate that you have it.
-Start each one with an action verb if you can ('created', 'managed', 'increased', 'improved' etc).
-Make sure it is absolutely free of errors. Employers are looking for ways to eliminate candidates and will use any opportunity.
The amount of shocking covering letters I have seen at work is unreal. It isn't hard to articulate yourself for one page. Plus if you really want the job then you'll have sound reasons for wanting to apply.
in saying it, but I would try to avoid treading over the line between eager/honest and pretension is that makes sense? You don't want to over-do the whole created, managed thing at the risk of sounding like a general office wang who walks around with a bluetooth headset in whilst walking down the road. That's just my opinion though.
also, larger recruiters like Hays etc have sections on applying etc on their sites, but i reckon you can OD on input, seeing as it's only a 1 side letter at most.
Gonna re-ask what I asked the other day.
When applying to jobs advertised by an agency on a general job site, when you click on the apply button, and the text box comes up with the default message, do you just go with the automation of it all and click send, or do you paste in a fancy cover letter?
I guess I just feel a bit narked with the agency cos I'd already sent 'em a CV and introductory cover letter a week earlier, with no reply. Not even an acknowledgement that they'd put me 'on their files'. Same applies to 11 out of 12 of the other agencies I sent a CV and cover letter to. I thought these guys are supposed to be effectively selling jobs? Bit of an odd sales technique to ignore your 'customers'.
Obviously not after a high standard of people in the industry as I'm an idiot.
"year 1 OTE £17,000 - £20,000 moving sharply in year two with OTE of £30,000 - £35,000 plus company car"
Renton made a go of it. How hard/soul destroying can it be?
What work do you do now?
Not that many jobs tho.
In theory I've got previous experience and nuff transferable skills to go back to doing engineering stuff again, but we'll see if it comes to that.
See further evidence of my simple minded nature:
Meant not very difficult but very sould destroying.
it's doing my head in.
why do they need so many recruitment consultants when there aren't even any other jobs apart from recruitment consultants!! arghaphidgjnshgjokhfdopkhffg
It's stupid how many of those types of jobs are around!!! Is that all graduates are supposed to do for work? How can you earn any commission in that kind of job when there are very few jobs to actually sell?
do I actually need a proper cover letter if it's for an online application process?
can I just put a few lines and say 'see attached cv'?
even if you're pretty much copy and pasting parts.
so many places will throw your application straight out of its not the exact format and submission type they request. Easy way to weed out the "don't follow guidelines" types.
about whittling down applicants. Almost certainly not your field but a good read anyway.