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AQOS isn't happening today?
Good riddance, never done anything for England
You got rid of another one.
might as well appoint Andy Hessenthaler.
This is your time to shine!
We finally look like finishing above Arsenal and then our manager fucks off and we get David Pleat in to "steady the ship" and finish 14th.
Jose's waiting in the wings.
Either he'll do both jobs simultaneously until the Euros or Trevor Brooking or someone will step in until then. Shouldn't make any difference to us at all.
starting in february rather than the middle of july. great stuff.
They'll still want to qualify for the Champions League/fight for the title/get their bonuses/put themselves in the shop window though.
Can we have him back?
not a chance
As though they're some sort of monarchy. Bunch of fannies can't allow a bit of criticism? Why?
When I heard it the other day that by voicing his opinion he was probably 'in breach of his contract' sounded very odd.
I had no idea that becoming England manager / working for the FA meant you had to forfeit any opinions you may hold and become a robot.
I think it's pretty standard. It's not not holding opinions - it's airing them in private.
I meant it more as:
Its (was) his job to pick the team, they did that for him, then he got an ear-bending for being riled by that...
But didn't really write that at all...
There's a few translations doing the rounds and most of them aren't exactly scathing.
From what I've heard, he did a popular Italian interview programme, and he was asked about JT being abdicated - he said (literal translation) - when it came to picking the team [team captain] it was his job, but when it came to an issue of ethical value, it was down to the FA.
He was mis quoted by a Daily Mirror journalist - which led to the shit storm that is Capello: "HE'S STILL MY CAPTAIN!"
It wasn't the criticism; it was the public nature of it. If I went to a newspaper and said the organisation I work for had made a terrible decision I'd expect to risk the sack.
But, from what I've read and heard over the last few days, doesn't this whole thing smack of being a publicity stunt?
ie - there being a lot of clubs that could possibly be interested in Capello - Capello's contract runs out in August (I think) he can cut his losses, walk straight into a job in August and still get paid 3 million in the process.
Does kind of make sense when you consider that He's never ever been arsed about the captain thing. He's always been slightly confused at the amount of importance we signify it with.
to an extent
MAN MANAGEMENT SKILLS, LIKE 0. HASN'T GOT A CLUE, ETC, ETC.. CLUELESS, RUBBISH!
^Just limbering up for this time next year^
would someone's nationality take precedent over their ability to do a job?
The Jose guy
Just remembered the "Barry will start over Parker, guaranteed" bets i've made on here.
Course, he shouldn't be in the side going off form anyway.
but if his trial ends up in him being convicted then that's a definitely
what a fucking load of DRAMAZ
Especially as it'd likely be an issue discussed with any potential incoming manager ... Whoever comes in will be very much a company man in that regard.
It'd be a mistake - virtually every other English CB is over-rated by virtue of not being John Terry - but it probably wouldn't make much of a difference to England's prospects.
if he is acquitted then he ought to maybe have a last run up to the WC 2014 ?
He'll probably pick Ferdinand to play alongside him as well. #notevenjoking :(
David James, Peter Crouch, Joe Cole, David Beckham.
Some other thump after that.
I don't know anything about football.
Were you expecting England to storm the Euros?
This will do more harm than good though, and it also means that the tabloids have won.
As he will be branded a massive failure when England fail to do anything at the Euros?
Can't see it happening, mind.
but i can't see it not going to an englishman
Hiddink: Get it straight, Buster. I'm not here to say "please". I'm here to tell you what to do. And if self-preservation is an instinct you possess, you better fucking do it and do it quick. I'm here to help. If my help's not appreciated, lots of luck, gentlemen.
Stevie G: No no, Mr. Hiddink, it's not like that. Your help is definitely appreciated.
Rooney: Look, Mr. Hiddink, I respect you. I just don't like people barking orders at me, that's all.
Hiddink: If I'm curt with you, it's because time is a factor. I think fast, I talk fast, and I need you two guys to act fast if you want to get out of this. So pretty please, with sugar on top, win the fucking trophy.
in terms of playing personnel?
centre back pairing of Lescott and Jagielka
but Redknapp will take most of his useless Spurs cronies.
"I'm quite delighted if I'm honest. I only saw them failing at the Euros with him in charge. There's nobody else other than Harry Redknapp [to replace him].
"It's a long time since England have had a main man that everybody agrees with and who can get the best out of the team. He brings humour to the dressing room and that has been missing in Fabio's time and in Sven-Goran Eriksson's time too."
Yeah, that Sven-Goran Eriksson whose record as England boss was so awful to the huge success they had under all their other managers...
HOLLOWAY FOR ENGLAND
The dream ticket.
tell him that if he refuses then he has to hand his Knighthood back
where a dude suggests that Jamie Carragher should take over the team?
It was oddly persuasive
it doesn't sound all that difficult persuading you to do something
the FA have acted shamefully and undermined fab cap's position,fair play to him sticking to his guns.
ssn banging on about english managers - get redknapp in, let him do fuck all for 4 years then let's have the debate again. the farce goes on
Saves him a lot of a hassle when england inevitably go out on penalties in the quarter finals in the euros.
that's what the fans and tabloids want isn't it? This whole time its been simply down to lack of PASSION, and not the fact that we are technically deficient kick and run nation who rely on foreigners in our club sides.
I really have nothing to say about this. I'm just ashamed to be an Englishman at the moment, truly I am.
I think the FA were fair enough in making the decision over Terry and the captaincy - it would have been a circus throughout the Euros and, as soon as the trial was extended, it made Terry's position difficult. They should have either publicly backed him to continue and explained their reasons or banned him from playing for the team and fucked up by compromising but I still think it's good they didn't sit with their heads in the sand and hope it blew over.
But I also think if Capello saw it as serious enough a matter to go publc over, he should follow that through by resigning in protest. So fair play to him.
#duncanforengland #imho #falsenines #mates
the England squad
Is Wilshere gonna be fit before the tournament though?
so he might be the standard player we try and rush back to fitness for a tournament.
probably the only englishman i consider to be a footballer in the technical sense of the word. players like parker are interchangeable.
Did you not see Darren Bent's name in it?
plus, there are plenty of other guys in that team who can put the ball away. would take Bent over Defoe every day.
instead of Richards, but otherwise I'd go for that. I like Welbeck but he needs a smart partner to spot his runs (i.e. Rooney).
Pretty sure he's thick as pigshit.
pretty well with welbeck this season.
i like him
although I guess you could say the same for every English centre-back. I've said it before: I think it's the real problem position.
even you couldn't say that for Lescott.
Maybe it's just his face though - he looks terrified every time he steps out on a football pitch. Can't be having that.
bossed Spain. Yes it was a friendly, but they play well together, we need a defensive partnership not JT + whoever is flavour of the month: Dawson, if monday night is anything to go by
given that we've been arguing Jagielka and Lescott should both go because of their good understanding.
they'd be backups, though.
He's been by far the most consistant centre-half in the Premier League.
Jones has got two or three OGs this season alone, ffs. Smalling and Ferdinand have been at fault for countless goals.
Lescott's been out best defender this year, and we're the best team in the country. Lescott should be in the 23, no doubt about that whatsoever. Lots would argue he should be in the first team.
But what do I know- why wouldn't people talking football on the internet know better than successive international managers?
he's England's best centre-half.
I like Jagielka but more importantly I like him and Lescott as a partnership.
The most consistant English centre-half in the Premier League over the last year...and by an absolute mile.
Jagielka/Lescott would be my two if fit, then Dawson and one other as backup. Not Smalling or Jones.
Walker Ferdinand Terry A.Cole
Beckham Gerrard Parker J.Cole
it will be this won't it?
What with the family connection and all.
Either he's the manager to pick the team or he's not. If not, why stay on as supposed puppet manager of the team? Or am I over simplifying it?
Gazza for Euro '12 mananger! The campaign starts here people.
Larging it in Poland.
the build up was gonna be terrible with Capello. The Terry thing would have festered. Clear unrest in the camp. Dismal showing at the Euros. With a new manager at least there might be a bit of a lift there. I hope its Harry, i mean lets face it, the current team we have is never gonna be able to play a european style of football, if they cant get the tactics under Capello, they cant get it under anyone so might aswell get in Harry, have a bit of banter.
Capello not being the first Italian to desert a sinking ship.
but I'd be surprised if they're genuine ...
“They really insulted me and damaged my authority.
What really hit me and forced me to take this decision was the fact the much-vaunted Anglo-Saxon sense of justice, as they are the first to claim that everyone is innocent until proven guilty.
In Terry’s case, they gravely offended me and damaged my authority at the head of the England side, effectively creating a problem for the squad.
I have never tolerated certain interference and crossing of lines, so it was easy for me to spot it and take my decision to leave.”
saying that she translated that from an interview with Italian TV, and she was worried that she had toned it down too much for how angry he actually was.
100% nailed on
Never gonna happen though.
If the FA do that, they're immediately sending out the message that whoever gets the job after him is second choice.
If it all doesn't work, they keep their manager. If it all works, they can massively up their compensation (not that Levy tends to need an incentive to charge over the odds for anyone who leaves Tottenham). Win-Win for 'em.
But, in any case, I think Spurs could afford to be strict and say, if he was offered it, he'd only be able to take it from the end of the season and not before.
If the FA then don't accept that and move on then Spurs can at least say they did try to offer a compromise and it might lessen any kind of media storm around it/resentment on Redknapp's part if he wanted it but couldn't take it 'cos Spurs wouldn't let him.
That said, given the stance on Modric, you'd hope Redknapp would sit tight and accept it if Spurs said no.
Not that he wouldn't have an idea already, but if it's a different set of challenges between club and international management that's especially so when you're on the brink of a major tournament. Levy's refusing to say anything tonight, apparently.
two after the end of the season:
would fuck off every swansea fan beyond belief too :D
gotta stop that NUFC success!
Felt that Capello was doing a mediocre job whilst enjoying an easy paycheque, I have more respect for him now that he's quit, as it shows a degree of integrity
Would prefer Redknapp to Hiddink, great manager that he is, because Redknapp has more invested in the team while Hiddink would see it as a stop gap
A change of manager for Spurs now would definitely hamper them. Throw in a couple of injuries to key players and they could be back in their usual battle for sixth with Liverpool by the time May comes around.
This is all pie in the sky though - I doubt Redknapp would leave Spurs now, and even if he did, they could put Louise Redknapp in charge and they should still finish in the top four.
I also doubt they would appoint anybody permanently now if Redknapp didn't want the job until the end of the season. But England can't go into a big tournament with someone like Trevor Brooking in charge, surely? It would have to be another foreigner on a short term mercenary contract, or Redknapp splitting his duties. Which I'm sure Spurs wouldn't want. And I'm sure the public wouldn't want the former.
If I was Harry I wouldn't touch that job with a fuckin bargepole!