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Why let the Scots have all the fun?
I think this just goes to further highlight how much the UK, as a whole, really really needs some kind of dramatic political restructuring.
Unless there's been an increase in demand for exports of close harmony singing that I haven't heard about, how would Wales plan to go it alone?
Theo, ban these troglodytes.
I thought you were saying that Wales could get by on its own by way of racism.
with greater control of their own affairs, including things like planning policy and (probably most importantly) taxation, they would be able to attract far greater levels of investment than they do now, where uniform national tax rates provide little incentive for, eg, large service sector businesses to invest outside of the south east / a handful of northern cities.
I'm dubious about the Scots managing it, but at least they have a banking sector and the oil industry. Wales has nothing to offer by way of exports at all
As a side note, leftys and liberals in England should really be against Scotland and Wales leaving the union. If that happens, you'll never get rid of a tory government
would force them to change how the party operates and try and become more innovative in how they try and attract support
meaning even less of a choice?
and it's very very rare that a basic demographic imbalance exists that keeps one party in power for long stretches of time
Without Scotland, Labour would still have won in:
1997 (with a majority of 139, down from 179)
2001 (129, down from 167
2005 (43, down from 66)
Going further back... since the WWII only two Westminster elections would have been different without Scottish MPs. In 1964, and 1974b the Labour wins would have resulted in a hung parliament.
FPTP (quite literaly) FTW, it would seem. As for the Liberal angle - well done Nick Clegg for fucking up the once in a lifetime chance to get a more proportional voting system by settling for a pointless referendum on a shitty non-option. And as guntrip has mentioned upthread, the UK political structure is not fit for purpose.
Thank you my good man
Thanks for the link
It's just I rely on their keeper for points
If we were able to push this thru fast enough, could Palace take their place in the league cup final? About face/sign me up.
That would be awesome.
I highly doubt it would happen, none of my family or anyone I know in Wales would want it, but that's purely anecdotal I suppose.
This will be like AV all over again though, where a small group of obsessive political insiders convince themselves that they are going to win, because *everyone they know* supports it.
This thread isn't about AV though, so let's just leave it at that.
and my family still live there.
I doubt I could ever match Wza's fanaticism and knack for appropriate linkage though.
Feeling pretty casual and slapdash right now, seeing as, in a fit of reckless abandon, I didn't bother linking to the sources for the post upthread refuting perpetual Tory rule in England.
And proslo has linked to the source anyway, so all is well in the world. x
I beat you at the quiz again btw.
And as if to rub it in, U2 are playing on the Radio right now. :-(
He a lot less nuts and a lot more dull than that title suggests.
There really wouldn't be any sense in a United Kingdom of England and Norther Ireland.
like the Channel Islands and the Isle of Man?
backing out, that opinion polls suggested that, to the genuine disbelief of the Unionists, the majority of English people didn't care whether Northern Ireland was part of the UK or not and thought that it had become a drain on the government's money and time.
NI is the one part of the union we'd all like to give back and the only bit that doesn't want to go!
If I've understood my histories correctly.
Although I have noticed recently more support for devolving taxation and other economic powers as the penny seems to have dropped that if we want to improve things we're going to have to start doing something about it ourselves rather than relying on England to bung us cash. Which is fairly reasonable really.
the border between Wales and England is heavily populated, unlike that between Scotland and England. It'd be a bit ridiculous having a border post across the middle of Saltney High Street.