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I'm starting to think that shirt neatness in married men is directly proportional to how happy their marriage is
There's one guy at work who's married but always trying it on with everyone else and his shirt always looks stale and creased and another who is always doing lovely things with his wife and kids and his shirts are immaculate and he smells of the freshest cleanest washing powder that always makes me think 'there's love gone into that'.
Almost certainly because their wives iron their shirts for them.
Neat guy - wife likes him and takes care over the ironing
Messy guy - wife can't be arsed.
I iron my own shirts.
I had to iron one of my shirts once because my boyfriend refused
I ended up dropping the iron on my leg and now I am scarred for life. A constant reminder of the time he say no to ironing something for me.
you can't blame your boyfriend for you being a klutz.
I like to imagine your girlfriend ironing my shirts
I like to imagine what marckees girlfriend is wearing
and think if the outfit would look nice on me.
(^slightly pervy sounding or acceptable?)
that sounds a bit wierd.
They'll end up creased and you'll just have to do them again yourself.
you do realise DiS is meant to be an escape from work
not a plummet within its deepest and most meaningless recesses
Hehe
God I hate work
I used my iron for the first time this morning
since my wedding day.
I am happy (at home).
THEN MAYBE YOU SHOULD STAY THERE
As of the end of the month I will be.
You insensitive brute!
Ooo. How come?
MASS redundancies.
Probably a pretty crap pay off. I've wanted out for a while but have been too lazy to do anything so I'm looking at it as a positive. I've finally done my CV and I'm off to meet with my first recruitment consultant this afternoon.
Good luck!
There's a place for you here (in my heart)
but does it get cable?
yeah i can believe this
My shirts always look great.
But that's because I iron them myself to disguise the fact that my relationship is a loveless sham.
more to do with the dynamics in the relationship maybe?
neat guy has a dominant/subservient relationship dynamic with his wife. she is more than happy to chores for hubby.
I don't think there is a correlation between happy marriage and neatness
Some people are scruffy no matter how happy their relationship is.
EXACTLY
My biggest problem with this thread is that it perpetuates a very limited, patriarchal view of marriage, and one which revolves entirely around office working culture. Shirt neatness is a symbol whose relevance is only found in the micro-analytical world of sardine-boxed ennui we've grown accustomed to as urban wage-earners. It's the realm of the housewife and the Working Husband, where an ideal is found in the dutiful completion of the narrative. It stinks, in short.
I'm in a happy marriage and I wear unironed t-shirts to work, btw
Happy for you maybe
but your shirt tells a different story about your wife.
lol
all I'll say is that we both appreciate the existence of a nearby launderette
I hope it's not that happy
I want you for myself
My best friend is single
maybe try him?
If only you were famous enough for me to submit this to Pseuds' Corner.
surely you see how the very premise of this thread is rooted in a homely and arcane narrative of female subservience
I prefer to think of it as an ironic commentary on our perceptions of domesticity.
OH THE IRONING!
dammit you got there first :p
its not often a chance like that comes up.
=D
I was typing out a few sentences of postmodern analysis
you had an unfair time advantage!
That's what you get for being clever!
maybe in your reconstruction of it, there is irony
but I detect scant self-critique elsewhere in this thread, especially in the OP - perhaps I need to give it more credit, though
unless 'ironic' is a pun in which case I'm fucking irked
lol
this
but in a happy relationship, iron my own shirts, 8/10 ironing skills
My g/f is rubbish at ironing
So I just do my shirts myself. I might buy her a gift this evening; seems I'm the greastest man ever to have lived.
I think you might need a slightly larger sample group for your studies
As soon as the washing machine is finished, take your shirt out
put it on a hanger and hang that badboy up. Doing this means you don't have to iron them.
And you can take that to the bank.
depends on the shirt
the average work shirt will be fine
It never gets it as crisp as ironing it properly though.
depends on the type of shirt though innit
It still goes weird
Things feel weird when they're unironed. I dislike unironed clothes.
So, who irons those then?
Me.
I iron my clothes.
I got the impression from further up that you didn't do ironing
as you managed to damage yourself the one time you tried to iron one of your shirts.
think you'll find that might depend on the shirt.
Always wear a jumper then your shirts don't need ironing.
Harder in the summer admittedly.
I iron my own shirts
Any man who gets a girl to iron their shirts is a fucking fud.
wife - ironing/washing clothes (glorified washerwoman)
husband - washing up/hoovering (honest, hard-working manual labourer)
sharing the domestic duties evenly and appropriately
- 21st century couple
Yes but if you can't even iron your own shirt
That's a biut lame. Sharing duties is coolio, but that's something you do for yourself. Like tying shoelaces or wiping your arse.
not really - all our ironing gets done in one batch,
after the washing.
If you iron a shirt before wearing each morning, fair enough, but that's not how we roll.
this is cool too
really, any method is cool as long as both people are into it - but if the duties aren't evenly-shared (to an approximate level) I can honestly say that there will be resentment somewhere in there
It's true, when I first moved in with my boyfriend I did everything
Because I have higher standards, so I told him I was getting resentful but if he paid for most things I wouldnt mind so much (he earns more). He said ok. But it makes me sad cos I think of the Hafiz poem
'The sun does not say to the moon "you owe me",look what happens with a love like that - it lights up the whole world" :-(
You shouldn't have to say 'you owe me', of course!
However, you should know when you owe. It's not a concrete debt, but it's the situation of knowing the need to put in energy of some sort in order to keep the relationship balanced. Good communication and virtue will always ensure this.
I suppose in that sense yeah, fair enough
I'm just really paticular about my shirts. The one time the other half did it, she ironed creases down the sleeve.
THAT IS AN ABSOLUTE CRIME.
oh, I agree with you!
Unless you're absolutely tied up in doing something else that is essential, your partner(s) shouldn't have to iron your shirts. Presuming you need an ironed shirt.
pervert
Haven't ironed a shirt (or anything else) in about 3 years.
Feels good, man.
you animal
but probably longer.
if i need a crease free shirt, i put it on a hanger, put it in the shower then turn the shower on for a bit, the steam gets rid of the creases.
This does depend on the shirt, but my linen shirts can all get fucked, they're horrible anyway.
I've heard rumours of this tactic before.
Never found anyone who practises it.
I just hang t-shirts/shirts up to dry and they're fine.
Work trousers seem to magically keep their creases after washing. Jeans/out-of-work trousers don't need ironing.
I'm got one 'heavy cotton' shirt that needs ironing. Just never wear it instead.
spend 55k on a shirt and......
from further up the thread,
it sounds like she only did that once and any further attempts that could possibly lead to further injury on her part.
He's talking about his 'wife'
not his girlfriend.
well the 29th is coming up.
you can make an honest man out of him.
is that a euphamism
for his 'house boy'?
Spent one hundred pounds on a shirt?
Who are you, Fred Goodwin?
You were already fucked if you spent a ton on a shirt.
Which you didn't. So whatevs.
3 for £21 from M&S Clearance shop for me, ta.
Your inability to believe anything he says is quite touching
I own a broad range of shirts, between £15 and £125, his point is valid.
Really I'm only replying to say I BEAT YOU AT THE QUIZ AGAIN MOTHERFUCKER. Ahem.
OMG
i just posted about T.M Lewin
spooky!
No need for ironing in winter when I'm wearing a jumper.
I iron my own in summer. My gf irons nothing (textiles projects excepted).
I go for the v-neck jumper all year round.
Summer is a bit of a struggle, but then I think of the MINUTES I'm saving by not ironing shirts and everything is good again.
Yeah,
I try and make the summer clothes regime last as short as possible.
just stitch velcro into the v-neck and cuffs
then create cuff and bib from some old shirts, stitch the 'other bit' from velcro onto that and presto! Looks proper, but shouldn't give you the summer sweaty feeling of having too many layers on.
People who don't iron anything are weird.
Why?
Because it looks scruffy
and must be uncomfortable. It irritates me. I iron everything....including my bedsheets and sometimes my knick knocks.
as mentioned most things don't need ironing if taken out of the wash
and put on a hanger etc. Also they won't be uncomfortable. Also you have barnacles on your feet.
but what if you've hung something up or over the airer
and its got a big fold down the middle. Would you iron it?
DEPENDS ON TEH SHIRT
Uncomfortable?
As your househusband says,
it's very easy to look scruffy just by putting a seatbelt on. Ironing is easily a wasted endeavour. That aside, in all situations beyond getting paid, or maybe someone getting married or whatevs, then I give a flat out (seewhaddididthere) meh to ironing.
Uncomfortable? How so?
"my bedsheets and sometimes my knick knocks". Oh. I see. You're dipping your toes back into the trolling pool. Abandon reply.
You really wouldn't be able to tell I don't iron anything.
People who iron their bedsheets are weird.
I'll only iron them if they've been screwed up on the journey from washing machine (wet) to bed (dry)
My mum used to have a machine for ironing bed clothes
Like a giant pasta machine but electric.
This sounds great.
I want one.
Sounds amazing.
Tell us more.
Just imagine really straight fresh bedsheets
that are slightly toasty from balonz's mums ironing machine. Its like getting into a hotel bed when they're all ironed and neat.
Why bother ironing?
Surely you should just use things a couple of times, then throw them away and buy new things?
I would throw/give to charity a skirt/shirt/top away if it constantly creased up after ironing it
It was two huge horizontal rollers on a stand that you fed your ruffled sheets through and they come out ironed.
More impressively, our whole house was a vacuum cleaner. Loads of little vacuuming ports all over the house that you opened and attached a tube too. Always on. Maybe I spent my childhood in a dream state coma?
Shut up!
I've seen those hoover things in films! Well they're not on all the time but they are little squares on the skirting boards and you push your dust up to them and they suck up the dust. Where does it go? Maybe it insulates your house or something.
As soon as you lifted the flap there was suction.
You could use them as additional bins for small things too. Probably stick your willy in them too... I didn't.
I think it used to go to the cellar but I didn't really give a shit at the time.
What the actual fuck? This sounds even better.
Was your house on Cribs? Where did you grow up?
Cribs didn't exist at the time.
Michael Jordan is my dad.
Germany is SO far ahead of us
:(
This was England
In Germany I lived in an invisible hover house.
I've designed houses with this system in.
It's really cool.
(but they're not on all the time - that would just be a waste of electricity)
really want to this this
but I'll spare most of you the sobriquet of 'weird' - the demands of your workplace are not yours to disobey!
maybe that last half-sentence contained a little *ahem* iro-
I mean, you're right, they should.
the people who have eyes notice
Well, shirts and a minority of skirts require it.
Nothing else does.
IRON OUT THE CREASES IN THIS THREAD
Rebuild
incidentally
T.M Lewin are doing 5 shirts for £100
http://www.tmlewin.co.uk/
that's a pretty good deal I think
FILL YR BOOTS
Do these shirts need ironing?
My 6 year old Florence + Fred shirts are starting to look a little shabby.
I belive the non-ironing shirts are in the
3 for 90 quid section
do they do slim fit?
or are they all those awful billowy waisted monstrosities?
for men without a paunch a shirt purchase is tricky
Do what I did,
get a paunch.
It's great.
could be that dishevelled guy has a cheapo iron
cheap irons - the ultimate false economy
My shirts are always unironed
Except at weddings and funerals.
I used to iron mine for work when I worked in a supermarket
And I always iron shirt and trousers for job interviews or nice occassions such as you mentioned.
But why the f would you waste all that time ironing the items that nobody sees anyway/ don't get creased anyway, just hang them up. As long as your clothes are clean and not screwed up you don't feel like the tramp king.
Surely the only people who still go around in totally ironed sets of clothes are Dave Cameron and the dad from the film Beethoven, the one about the misunderstood boisterous dog.
where has this idea come from that people can't see shirts?
I perhaps didn't make it clear enough that visible shirts in formal situations should be ironed
But hidden away under jumper or casual t shirt? Just hang it up nicely and it's fine.
gotcha
i bulk iron so never know exactly what capacity the shirt will be used for
I do not iron
ever. Why is it that mum's always have a big pile of ironing?
Ironing is a myth.
It's fucking great not having to wear a shirt to work.
Thinking about it, I haven't had to wear a shirt regularly since I was in sixth form.
Feels pretty prettttyyyyyy good.
i retract my DIS about having to wear shirts regularly
i think i had blanked out years of awful temp jobs
You had to wear shirts to sixth form?
Eton?
Almost....
Maidstone Grammar.
We had to wear suits to sixth form.
The rest of the school had to wear uniform.
we could wear coloured shirts!
the rest of the school only white!
DANGEROUS
marry a man who doesn't wear shirts to work
EASY
You married Tarzan?
no, but I did take spiderman round aldi this morning
filth!
meowington irons her knickers
but never washes her socks?
something is very wrong here
This is okay.
Its more likely that someone will go near my vagina than they will my toes.
^ opening line of The Vagina Monologues
yeah but how do you know that his wife does the washing/ironing?
I don't, I just noticed a correlation
Maybe he does it himself and his wife really fancies him cos he looks neat
I'm sure vanilla fascists iron their shirts as well.
they generally looked very well turned out in the films i've seen them in. even raiders of the lost ark, and those were submarine nazis.
I just use straightners on crinkly bits.
Is here a good place to say I saw Meow's Dad's tummy? I think so.
WHY IS IT YOU CAN'T BUY SHIRTS THAT DON'T NEED IRONING ANYMORE?