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Jermaine Beckford had a cold apparently. Fucking hell.
as are Forest.
As you were.
but we probably won't :(
so the humiliation of Forest was most enjoyable. Would be good to have Beckford and Nugent consistently hitting the back of the net. Swindon at home in the next round - I smell a cup run.
Made me have a bit of a chuckle. Theyre going down.
An old but good article about him:
on a fairly decent player who will connect well with one they already own.
* In footballing terms, obviously
'People say the first game was dreadful. It wasn't as good as that. Why the hell is the replay on TV after the first game?'
Sorry in advance, nation of Britain.
Andrey Arshavin (Arsenal) to Lazio or Zenit St Petersburg
Yohan Benalouane (Cesena) to Newcastle
Heurelho Gomes (Spurs) to QPR
Adrien Silva (Sporting Lisbon) to Everton
Kenwyne Jones (Stoke) to Al Hilal
Adam Hammill (Wolves) to Blackburn
Liam Ridgewell (Birmingham) to West Brom
Tim Krul (Newcastle) to Spurs
Eduard Husinec (NK Hrvatski Dragovoljac) to Spurs
Mauro Zarate (Inter) to QPR
Scott Dann (Blackburn) to Liverpool or Arsenal or Aston Villa or Everton
Billy Sharp (Doncaster) to Fulham
Aly Cissokho (Lyon) to Arsenal or Newcastle
Fraser Forster (Newcastle) to Celtic
Jaime Jiménez (Real Valladolid) to Spurs
Mumuni Abubakar (New Edubiase United) to Liverpool
Diniyar Bilyaletdinov (Everton) to Wolfsburg
Jonathan Hewson (Leeds) to Norwich
Adam Clayton (Leeds) to Bolton or Stoke or Fulham or Wigan
Jack Grimmer (Aberdeen) to Fulham
Lasse Vigen Christensen (FC Midtjylland) to Fulham
Hugo Rodallega (Wigan) to Stoke
Anthony Modeste (Bordeaux) to Blackburn
Tom Carroll (Spurs) to Derby
Ryan Noble (Sunderland) to Derby
ARTHUR, WHY DON'T YOU TELL US WHEN RUMOURS REGARD LOANS?
Don't understand why QPR would want Gomes.
why Liverpool and Arsenal would now be interested in Scott Dann having passed on the chance to sign him from Birmingham in the summer.
Probably. Who knows though.
oh I can't even be bothered to finish that joke
as I really like him, and will never forget those four goals he scored against Liverpool, but it is clearly not working out for him any more in the Premier League. Hopefully we'll give him a chance until the end of January and if he hasn't performed in consecutive games before then, ship him out for deadline day. I'm sure we'd get a decent fee. Oxlade-Chamberlain can step up. Though we should still sign Junior Hoilett.
Particularly because I really liked his half-arsed *maybe-I'll-do-something-brilliant-in-a-bit* style. I don't like seeing him flail around the pitch trying to show that he's making an effort, imagine Berbatov doing that!
and i definitely dont want him to leave.
Excuse my ignorance, but who?! I'm assuming he's a centre forward, and hoping he's not another Pavlyuchenko.
Has spent some time training with Real Madrid.
THEY'RE FUCKING 12.
The words of a gentleman a few rows behind us last night.
Not the best game of football I've ever seen, QPR were very clunky at times, and MK Dons attack with verve and went close far too often for more liking.
Macheda and Buzsaky play well, the former looks hungry, the latter played some sublime passes.
A first win in the FA Cup for 11 years. Historic scenes, though I was almost proud of our dreadful record. Now, Chelsea. £40 a ticket though and have to buy today to keep my season ticket seat.
Also the first time I've seen us win in 12 games this season. Glad to know I'm not a curse and we're just shit.
A fair old MK contingent travelled down. They actually sang I'm MK till I die.
I daren't believe it till it's confirmed, would be a monumental signing
man, can that cat boot a ball
Saw Suggs near my house once. Just realised that despite starting this thread, I really don't want to talk/think about football today.
He kept nipping outside to smoke rollies.
worse than Bothroyd
would've loved him at rangers
usually, by this time, there are 1 or 2 who are set adrift on menory bliss, but although Wigan are on a paltry 15 points, they play nice stuff and I can see them going on a run. Likewise Blackburn. Sooo, my 3 for the drop are:
QPR (who will buy big this month but ultimately fail to form a cohesive unit)
to get a few wins and a bit of confidence flowing?
Only problem at the moment is looking at the shit he has to work with. Also no Traore or Taraabt til Feb, our top scorer is a pensioner having a brilliant renaisance and our best player is out for the season. Maybe we can sign some players who can slot in straight away. maybe Hughes will get everyone geed up, but at the moment, I'm struggling to see a way out.
We also have the run in from hell. If we aren't safe by March we're done
Obviously I hope we kick the funk and go on a run. The next 6 games are massive
I know it was only one match, but Christ, they looked completely devoid of confidence. Every time the ball went near their defence, it was panic. How can Martinez have any chance of sorting that out between now and the end of the season? He'll need a whole new defence. I think Bolton, Wigan and Wolves.
I do not understand why Martinez hasn't signed any central defenders in about two years. Caldwell, Alcaraz and Gohouri are all complete liabilities, and it's been clear for at least that length of time that his defence is the laughing stock of the league. He spent 7.5 million on Boselli- easily enough to source two promising defenders in the Championship.
this year, please god, it has to be, I can't take this anymore.
(I don't care who else)
Sticking to that, and settling on Norwich as the one to go down.
a Blackpool-like slide down the table.
Their defence is still pretty shocking, and they're the kind of side that established teams tend to suss out for the return fixtures.
(and 3 teams than worse than us) I believe.
But I just can't see the players coping at this level over a season.
the only comprehensive losses have been Man City and Spurs so far and apparently we were decent against Spurs. Otherwise, we generally take points and get away wins at West Brom and just never give up hope.
I agree that we don't have the players, we probably have the worse team on paper, but seeing as we do get results I don't really see that ending
it says a lot about the quality of the bottom of the table that a mediocre but well drilled side like Norwich can do as well as they have. There are no real nailed on certs this year, though.
Blackburn look like they've turned a corner but their complete mismanagement will surely spell their demise sooner or later. If they can hang on to Samba and Hoilett this window they might have a chance, otherwise I suspect they're going. Bolton are getting their key men back slowly and should be able to put up a better fight in the new year. Lack of investment/no Gayhill is going to be a problem though, and they are utterly fucked if they go down- a few more injuries and they're down the toilet. If not this year then probably next. Wigan are so, so poor but is anyone really willing to write them off? They've turned finishing 17th into an artform.
Norwich and Swansea should start sinking towards the trapdoor as the year goes on but I think they might have done enough already to stay up. Out of the two I think Swansea look more vulnerable. That Barca-lite shit looks impressive, but at the end of the day lumping the ball at two half-simians in the box will score you more goals. QPR probably have the money and the manager to stay up, unfortunately. Wolves and West Brom will muddle on.
I agree with pretty much all of that post.
I want to say Wigan definitely, but they definitely should have gone down last season as well, so maybe they'll scrape it again.
Can't choose between Blackburn, QPR and Wolves. Wolves look the least likely to have a resurgence, but also the most likely to grind out some useful draws. No disrespect to LLB and silverfox, but I'd love QPR to go down just because I think Mark Hughes is a prick.
I don't know him at all but given he's the captain and Leeds were pretty reluctant to go seem to be signs
hes been injured recently but to captain Leeds at 23 shows the quality of the lad. shame hes going but like those thatve gone before him.. cant blame him :(
i don't think the SPL's model of only having 2 teams and getting them to play each other about 10 times a season is a good one to emulate.
This is fantastic news. As their 85% in-favour-of poll shows, people want it badly.
There are literally zero cons to safe standing in the Bundesliga mould, and I sincerely hope the more vocal opponents at my club keep their noses out of this one.
and on other terraces, it was fucking vile. Crammed in next to some other bunch of cunts, being pushed about and only occasionally being able to see what was happening on the pitch. And of course in those days terraces were hotbeds of violence, either from your own supporters or those of other clubs who would infiltrate the area for a good old ruck.
The good thing about all seater stadiums was that, initially at least, prices had to be realistic or no ground would have been full. It's just as years have gone on, prices have become such that is a hell of an undertaking to commit to a season ticket, plus there is obviously only a limited amount of space to fill.
The clubs are looking at ways of squeezing more people into existing grounds and this has been seized upon as means of doing it. But for the supporters - it won't be as cheap as is being made out, and it is essentially a young man (and I do mean man)'s game.
Terraces =/= Safe Standing
Safe standing is, as its name suggests, safe. There is a barrier every row. No crushes can gain momentum. It's pretty much basic common sense.
When it comes to price, whilst it would be nice if that would fall - it's not vital for me.
In fact I'm more willing to pay a higher fee, if I can stand up and sing at a game, than a cheaper one for being crammed into a plastic seat.
The massive increase in ticket prices went hand-in-hand with all-seater grounds, I wonder what price they'll be able to justify for cramming people into a standing zone...
By reducing capacities and upping prices, they just succeeded in making the viewing of live football more exclusive. Then they use that demand to justify the huge charges.
I can't see prices dropping rapidly, but as I said above, that's not the issue. I find it crazy that I'll be paying £48 to be nailed to my seat in the Kop next week but about £25 to have a fantastic time on my feet at the Reebok on Saturday. In terms of enjoyment and experience, it should be the other way round.
German football does standing very well but the German people also manage to live in large scale communal housing without it causing problems. Just because something works somewhere doesn't mean it will work everywhere.
If you don't want safe standing, sit in the seated areas.
Whilst I respect your opinion, I don't think that your fears for my safety should deny me my enjoyment of football in the way I want to enjoy it.
while in Germany but I can't get over the childhood memory of nearly being pissed on, getting knocked off a safety bar when we scored and generally being crushed and not being able to watch the game in the North Stand of Maine Rd. It was removed for a reason and Football might not be better but it's safer and even if you're not bothered about your safety at games Football Clubs should be.
You were clearly too young and small, and whoever took you there was acting very irresponsibly.
Also, it's not terracing, for the 5000th time.
At least I don't think I did and I do appreciate that the current German model is very different to what was around British football.
By that I assumed you meant standing. Standing up at football isn't unsafe. Terracing is.
back into football would use lessons learned from leagues that have it in place. However the people in these areas would still be the same as when they were terraces and I think therein lies the problem and why it'd be abandoned again pretty quickly imo. Like you say though if it happened I'd just not go in them, quite happy with where I sit and "match day experience" as it is but if it's going to happen then I hope it does work.
I can't afford to go back to see the home games but I'll be there for that one, anyone London based and want to help a struggling club out? Direct train from Paddington, nice bar, and There Will Be Buckets (of pound coins). And quite possibly the heroic return of Craig Liddle in defence, at this rate. My brother says he's taking his boots to the game, just in case.
delaying the inevitable tbf
that we just signed. So further proof. I think Blackburn were also going to sign him but Samba signed a new 4 year deal at the time so they decided against it. :D
Looking the better side at the moment.
Hopefully the alcohol will make this bearable....
the titans of Wolves take on the immovable force of Birmingham in a game that's being described as on this day...
sky commentators are creaming themselves over ronaldo
but aside from his goal, which the keeps should've saved, he's not been great IMO
brilliant play from ronaldo? he ran 50 yards as fast as he could and then missed a simple pass.
but he has been better tonight than in recent weeks (since the last classico)
in this game, and the Bilbao game before
just for the bants.
Both sides have been relatively poor. Madrid give the ball away so easily and when they do attack the final pass has been poor.
(you don't have to, don't worry)
Or somewhere else I've not been a week on Saturday then....
Didn't want to go to Bramall Lane anyway, been before :(
Molineux Mix makes for some fun reading if you want to wallow in some more misery.
why THE FUCK DID I LOSE. 90 MINUTES CLEARLY ISN'T 'FULLTIME' IF IT GOES TO EXTRA TIME FFS.
Don't see enough of that anymore. Gianluca Vialli was the best
Full-time was at the end of the penalty shootout not 90 minutes. Load of shit.
such a likeable guy too. Unlike uber-cunt Pepe
rooney called him an idiot so this has already endeared me to him.
That's £230 from about £15 worth of bets in the last few weeks
double the odds when score a 2nd, treble odds when score a 3rd etc thing with Beckford last night. £150 like that.