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Anybody going to see TNA next week?
bit harsh. I don't really care for Hogan or Flair but the younger guys in TNA are good. I went to the tour last year and had a great time, even if their televised product is mightily frustrating sometimes.
best of all time imo
Hope to drink 8 pints like last year and get on TV.
suggestion for signs below please
they had to do *something* with his fat ass, i suppose.
I think they went with the funkasaurus thing because henry is totally pulling off the monster role, plus now kane doing it too. too many monsters.
Oh, my bad!
It is definitely different and as said above, there are too many monster gimmicks about at the moment for him to have as big an impact.
The only problem is having a gimmick like that in WWF means he won't really be taken seriously and won't really go that far. I could see him in comedy skits with Santino and that is not good. I hope this gimmick doesn't last long and he takes over as a monster once Kane retires at Wrestlemania.
Regardless, this guy is awesome and if you saw him in NXT, he really reminds me of Bam Bam Bigelow.
also enjoying brodus clay.
incidentally, TNA must not be selling well, as last week I was asked if i wanted to hold an interview I was turned down for a couple months ago.
but wait a minute na jordan, you are a wrestling journalist?
well, i've journalized about wrestling before, but it'd be for www.contactmusic.com (which covers film, tv and other entertainment despite the name)
who are you interviewing?
can't be bothered now. requested anderson.
I can't get the Nation of Domination entrance theme out of my head :(
Nevermind, it kind of still applies.
but I think they need to actually do something with him next week, as you can't keep going on with this for very long, otherwise people will get bored.
I'm interested to see which way he is gonna go, face or heel. Apparently at house shows, he's been taking down heels and put Barrett in the Liontamer.
What's everyone's favourite match of all time?
I'll say Bret Hart v Stone Cold Wrestlemania 13
How often can you say that?
His rivalry with Shawn Michaels 5 years or so ago was one of my favourites
Yeah it's massively geeky that I still like wrestling, but I enjoy it in a different way now. I know a lot of the backstage goings on and how the business works instead of taking the storylines seriously like I did when I was a kid.
That said, I'm not particularly enjoying WWE at the moment.
although there are still blips of 'wtf, WHY?'
Monday's main event was a good example of good stuff. Overlapping storylines, effectively 6 heels involved, good match, good build to next week/the rumble.
But then it was on the same show as HOLD ON A MINIT PLAYA, LETS HAVE AN OVER THE TOP BATTLE ROYALE, R-Truth's trip to Disneyland, and Perez fucking Hilton.
I'm not even sure if that's PG! :D
The WWF always does a great Summer storyline, as there is a lull in decent PPV. 2010 was Nexus and 2011 was Summer of Punk.
Both storylines had me hooked, until they ruined them with John Cena then taking over.
Mysterio v Rhodes was interesting last year as well, though I think it started back in 2010 and resolved at Wrestlemania.
fucking trips, burying everything around him
It was odd how they pretty much then focused that storyline around HHH and Kevin Nash. How they thought a match between the two at a PPV was a good idea is anybodies guess.
The cliq is back.
I'll post some more later. What a crazy business. :D
"Jim Duggan came out next and made some remarks about Sting and then Sting came out and gave him the reverse DDT and was supposed to leave Duggan laying. At least that's how the commentators were selling it, the only problem was that Duggan got right back up and was marching around the ring as they said it." - January 20, 1997
"Wrestlers are making bets backstage over who will be the first to trip on the new Nitro set" - April 12, 1999
"Flair showed up with the mental patients and a roided up girl, and was nearly the first casualty of the ramp" - May 10, 1999
"WCW ordered a ton of new business cards & stationary with the new logo and the address on. They all say 'Altanta'." - April 12, 1999
"Dustin Runnels was at Starrcade, being called by management to return. Runnels is reportedly being paid $750,000 per year but the company isn't using him. When he got there, the company told him they had no plans for him and he went back home." - December 25, 2000
"Eddie Guerrero went to a double count with Syxx in a 2:00 ladder match. I've got a feeling watching a ladder match go to a double count out in that short a time on TV will make me spent $27.95 to see them have a rematch." - January 20, 1997
"Lash Leroux wrestled Prince Iaukea for 50 seconds. Those 50 seconds were enough for 1.2 million households to switch over to Raw" - August 02, 1999
"Nobody has any idea why they brought a live tiger from the zoo to accompany Steiner to the ring on Nitro. Backstage (when he was trying to get a photo with it) the tiger nearly took a chuck out of Rey Mysterio's eye" - October 10, 2000.
"Steve McMichael was rumoured to be earning in the $350,000 range when he was announcing, haven't heard any word on what he's making to wrestle - or whatever it is they call what he does." - January 27, 1997
"NWO Souled Out (or suddenly the Royal Rumble was a hell of a show) poll results: Thumbs Up 2, Thumbs Down 175, In the Middle 2" - February 3, 1997
"Bischoff made a remark that they didn't have to give tickets away at a 7-11 to get people to come to this PPV. That was in reference to the WWF which ONLY could get 48,000 paid for its show last week." - February 3, 1997
"Benoit threw Konnan over the top for the DQ. Jacquelyn was supposed to pull a chair from under the ring but some WCW idiot had grabbed the chair and was sitting in it. What a disaster that turned out to be." - February 10, 1997
"Piper talked into the toilet bowl at Hogan."- February 24, 1997
"A fan hit the ring during the brawl which was funny because the fan forgot to sell Hall and Savage's punches but at least he ran away quickly." - March 3, 1997
"Ice Train pinned Maxx in the dark match. Report was that it was about as good as you'd expect." - March 24, 1997
"The NWO did an interview. They pretended to be stoned. They pretend very well." - March 24, 1997
"None of the announcers recognised the elimination until Michael Buffer announced it. It's really scary when he's the quickest on the draw." - March 24, 1997
"Luna Vachon talked about taking the women's belt from Madusa. Of course Madusa doesn't hold that belt. Akira Hokuto does, but with the communication within this company I don't blame her for the mistake." - April 21, 1997
"In a backstage meeting with the WCW wrestlers Bischoff claimed WWF would be out of business in six months." - October 27, 1997
"The show opened with a dark match as the American Patriots (Curtis "Chip the Firebreaker" Thompson and Todd Champion) returning beating the Samoan Swat Team, billed as Samu and Fatu. All reports are that this match wasn't good, so that should pretty well guarantee they get signed." - December 22, 1997
"Madusa came out in a bikini. The implants looked ridiculous but this is a business of excess. She came out with Nitro cologne. It was the weirdest thing as Heenan was getting over just how horrible smelling the cologne is. It is a WCW product and they were pushing how bad it smelled. Madusa started screaming it was bullshit and threw the cologne on Heenan, who reacted like it smelled like cow manure. In fact, they actually used the word manure to describe the smell of the cologne. This was weird to say the least" - November 1, 1999
"Scott Hall had problems on the first plane going to Germany, where he apparently got sick and was harassing Terry Taylor. He got into a fight with sometime girlfriend Emily Sherman including a cake throwing incident. In the dressing room, he made a threat that he was going to do something to Taylor in the ring. This led to a roughly 35 to 40 minute delay in the building before Thunder started with this mess being sorted out. Dave Penzer was trying to kill time telling jokes. The reaction was largely negative, but they weren't throwing things at him and it never threatened to become violent" - February 28, 1999
"WCW.com ran a contest involving Hulk Hogan and Ric Flair. I'm actually not sure what the contest was for. Anyway, we got numerous reports from people who said that if you vote for Flair, the total number for Hogan automatically increases by five." - February 28, 1999
"Oklahoma then threw BBQ sauce in Madusa's eyes to set up Madusa vs. Oklahama in a feud over the cruiserweight title" - January 10, 2000
"Bagwell and Kanyon, who at this point had turned on each other twice, where scheduled to face Flair and Crowbar. Bigelow attacked Kanyon, suplexing him on the entrance ramp and threw him off the stage through a table. This bump was far more dangerous than similar WWF bumps where they have all these pads set up covered in a blanket around the table when they go off the ramp, but the stunt was nill as the cameras missed the shot" - January 10, 2000
"If you thought Starrcade was bad in English, it was worse in German. The German crew was in Washington DC live. The regular commentators were joined by comedian Tom Gerhardt, who was popular in Germany ten years ago because he used to got on stage dressed as a giant penis and pretend to ejaculate on the audience. He was doing heel commentary to get himself over, calling Disco Inferno gay, talking about Madusa having nice tits, and stood when Benoit made the open challenge to anyone and challenged him. This was all done to build a match where Gerhardt will wrestle Berlyn in Oberhausan, Germany on the WCW house show." - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: January 10, 2000.
"Kevin Nash missed the weekend house shows where he was scheduled to headline against Vicious claiming a concussion suffered allegedly when he was hit with the rubber crowbar by Arn Anderson" - January 17, 2000
"Kevin Nash then came out with a black girl, I guess to show that he is cool." - January 31, 2000
"The Match (Kevin Nash vs. Sid) was in slow motion. Jarrett came in, but Sid got the guitar from him, clocked Nash with it and then laid on his back. The announcers were talking about how Sid was outsmarting everyone by pretending he was the one who got hit with the guitar. There were pieces of the broken guitar surrounding Nash's body, including in his hair and a big piece on his chest, while there was no debris anywhere close to Sid" - January 31, 2000
"The only ratings question of the week was whether or not WCW Nitro would beat the Westminster Dog Show on the USA Network on 2/14. The answer was no" - February 21, 2000
"In Philadelphia, apparently the hydraulics didn't work and The Demon was stuck in his coffin for about three minutes before they could get him out" - February 21, 2000
"A TV Series starring Duggan called 'Biker's Court' was attempting to be sold for syndication at the NATPE convention last week. It was a worked cross between Judge Judy and Jerry Springer, with bikers as the jurors, a silicon implanted bailiff and Duggan carrying his 2X4 as the judge. A typical episode is a midget smoker who is suing the tobacco companies claiming smoking stunted his growth and asking for compensation for a multimillion dollar NBA career that he didn't have" - February 21, 2000
"Big T defeated Booker T in a match for the rights to the letter 'T'. This was ungodly bad. Actually the former Ahmed Johnson in his now pregnant state actually 'carried' Booker T to maybe the worst match of his career. The lights went out, seemingly forever, teasing that Midnight was coming, with her music. Of course, she's not even in the company anymore." - February 28, 2000
"La Parka was reading the financial pages when Madusa propositioned him." - February 28, 2000
"World Championship Wrestling had what was on paper its most successful weekend in at least a year, drawing three consecutive sellouts, largely with very enthusiastic fans in the United Kingdom. The reaction to the shows by the time they were over was typical of the WCW Shoot Yourself in the Foot Tour 2000. The main events all three nights were a disappointment. On the first night, they used Ric Flair vs. Curt Hennig on top. They had a good technical match that the crowd wasn't into, with lots of 'Goldberg' chants. After the match, Luger and Elizabeth did a run-in, leaving Bagwell to make the save and the show actually ended with Bagwell in the ring with his music playing, saying 'You didn't get Goldberg and you didn't get Sting, but you got Buff and he's the stuff.' Needless to say, the interview wasn't exactly well received by the audience. The third show had a hugely disappointing main event, headlined by local boxer "The Viking" Foster working as the outside the ring second ref for the Mamalukes tag title defence against the Harris Twins. The match had no heat and lots of missed spots with fans filing out as it was going on. Ron Harris actually grabbed the house mic and ripped on the fans for not caring about the match. Reports were the match was terrible. Foster, we're told, wasn't a big enough name to actually help sell tickets and most of the fans in attendance didn't even know who he was. The first night in Birmingham, Nash came out in a wheelchair...Nash was said to be embarrassing, badly slurring his words. Vicious wasn't there, according to WCW sources it is because he's not allowed in the country. In London, Duggan got the crowd chanting 'USA'. in his match against UK wrestler David Finley" - March 20, 2000
"Funk attacked Rhodes after the match, knocking him out with a loaded chicken" - March 20, 2000
"When Mark Madden told Arn Anderon how well received his segment was, Anderson replied by saying 'That must mean I'm going to get fired'." - March 20, 2000
"Douglas pinned Funk and grabbed the belt. Mike Awesome beat Wall in a tables match. Awesome and Douglas started beating on Wall but DDP came out of the back of the ambulance and threw Awesome in and took off. Then they went to a cutaway with Russo holding a casket with a bunch of New Blood members as pall bearers, including Douglas without a hair out of place and Awesome, in his regular clothes." - March 29, 2000
"On Nitro during the opening meeting (with Russo), everyone was supposed to act scared and somber, but you could see everyone biting their tongue because Brian Knobs' hair was set on fire by the pyro coming out" - April 17, 2000
"You know things are bad when Schiavone starts swearing on the air" - April 24, 2000
"DDP and Mike Awesome were having a good match when Mark Madden said in the new WCW they were going to have winners and losers and the refs aren't going to be calling DQ's. Literally seconds later, Billy Silverman called the DQ." - April 17, 2000
"Sting and Vampiro fought in a graveyard. Vampiro broke a tombstone over Sting's head and he fell into a grave. Officially, because Sting may have died, this match was ruled a no contest" - May 08, 2000
"Hogan did the first huricanrana of his career" - May 15, 2000
"During the commercial, they soaked the ropes with gasoline. Sting came out, then Vampiro came out and called him Steve, and said they would have an inferno match on the PPV. Sting said that's nuts and he isn't going to do it. At this point the ropes were supposed to set on fire but they didn't. The fans started laughing and booing," - May 22, 2000
"Terry Funk came out with chickens on both hands like they were boxing gloves" - May 22, 2000
"David Flair did an interview. It was weird because he was bragging about his long-legged blonde girlfriend and having a Corvette to show he hasn't done badly for himself (his real-life fiancé is Stacy Keibler), which was strange since Daffney was right there as a medium-legged brunette who is supposed to be his girlfriend, but not only that, earlier in this very same show he asked her to marry him." - May 22, 2000
"Russo then came out to confront Nash, and basically tried to take 100% of the credit for creating the 'Diesel' character that made Nash a star. Blood fell from the ceiling, most of which fell several feet to the side of Nash and much of which fell on front row spectators." - May 22, 2000
"Tank Abbot has been asked by management to take singing lessons" - September 11, 2000
"Russo wanted to be dragged behind the monster truck through the desert by Goldberg but the higher ups nixed the angle. Russo was very upset about this" - September 11, 2000
"Some notes from 9/12 in Roanoke for the Thunder tapings. The fantastic Japanese wrestler Hayabusa was there but was only going to be put on World Wide against The Frog." - September 11, 2000
"In a meet and greet in Sydney Australia, Chae (Nitro girl) was asked if she was dating Kevin Nash. She said that she was. Kevin Nash a few weeks back on TV said he was going out after the show to 'eat a little Korean' so I guess that publicly puts one and one together" - October 16, 2000
"A fan hit Goldberg with a cardboard Star of David" - October 16, 2000
"In a segment said to be hilarious live, (Elix) Skipper was talking trash and challenging Goldberg. Goldberg came out behind Skipper. Skipper keeps turning and Goldberg keeps adjusting his position so Skipper can't see him. All of this is on the big screen, which Skipper is looking right at, and can see Goldberg behind him, but because they didn't consider this when making the angle, he had to pretend" - October 23, 2000
"The 12/18 Nitro was supposed to practically be built around Rick Steiner as the surprise guy, but he wasn't there because they forgot to tell him" - January 01, 2001
"Kaz Hayashi & Yun Yang beat Jamie Knoble & Evan Karagias in 9:21 in the show stealer. You know it had to be WCW with the graphic reading Jamie Karagias and Evan Knoble as they came to the ring" - January 22, 2001
"Jimmy Hart was hospitalised with a kidney stone, which was dislodged when a local female DJ gave him a low blow at the TV taping in Minneanapolis" - January 22, 2001
"Beginning this week, WCW Nitro is going head-to-head with WCW Thunder in Australia" - January 22, 2001
"Scott Steiner was arrested from an incident at the TV tapings the night before which ended up being edited off television. They were doing a stretcher job deal and Steiner started kicking one of the EMT's, apparently thinking they weren't real EMT's. As it turned out, they used real EMT's and one of them decided to press police charges" - January 29, 2001
"In a TV commercial in the Nashville market for the 2/18 PPV, the voiceover really says 'expect a night of run-ins'." - February 12, 2001
"...Some of the strangest camera work, including a shot of a door which seemed to have no real purpose" - March 05, 2001
"The main event on the show, believe it or not, was Flair kissing a donkey" - March 26, 2001
"There was a ton of heat on Luger and Giant for the deal they pulled at the 1/5 tapings in Gainesville, GA. Giant came out in his jeans, not even getting dressed, for his main event with Luger. They got in the ring and Giant just lied down and both laughed." - January 18, 1999
"Michael Buffer came out for absolutely no reason. See, he was there to announce the main event. But get this, there was no main event. - February 22, 1999
"There was some heat on Hogan calling the camera man a 'jiggly, jiggly, jew' on Nitro, but evidently not enough for the segment not to have been replayed on every WCW show during the week" - February 15, 1999
"They aired a new promo for Nitro featuring Sean Waltman, who hasn't been with the company for a year" - March 22, 1999
"Raven used an oar to Bigelow's groin" - March 22, 1999
"Ricky Rachmann has signed a contract. The first week he was put on live TV and the first words out of his mouth were how he didn't know much about wrestling" - April 05, 1999
"Goldberg was originally scheduled against Bigelow., who is out with minor elbow surgery. They had planned to do the first ever Goldberg vs. Bret Hart match as a replacement however things got screwed up. Hart was in Toronto doing promotion for Nitro and was supposed to get picked up and taken to the airport. His ride never came." - April 05, 1999
"There will be some new visual changes on Nitro in the coming weeks. This reminds me of putting a nice, fresh coat of paint on a house that had just been hit by a Tornado" - April 12, 1999
"Chris Benoit was on FAN in Toronto and asked if he thought that there was a conspiracy to destroy the company from within. He said 'It appears that way'." - April 12, 1999
"WCW is coming out with Goldberg, Hogan, Savage, Sting and Nash Air Fresheners. The company that is marketing them wanted the first four. WCW begged them to include Nash." - May 10, 1999
"Barry Windham is actually out of action because he's having liposuction on his gut" - May 10, 1999
"Goldberg was on QVC and when asked abut what he's doing in the future, he said he really doesn't know because they don't tell him anything" - May 10, 1999
"Flair is about to be dropped from the Time Magazine Man of the Century internet balloting where he is currently in second place behind Jesus Christ. More than 20 million people have voted, making it the biggest web poll in history, with Flair getting more than 310,000 votes. Flair is being dropped because Janice Castro, the editor of Time.com, said his showing is due to unfair lobbying from wrestling web sites. Jesus is about to go down as well, as religious organisations have gotten members to flood the ballot box too. Time.com is planning an exit strategy, however with the God of wrestling and the Son of God removed, the big winner in the poll appears to be Adolf Hitler, who would become the front runner" - April 12, 1999
"They traded hard garbage can shots. Tony Schiavone in his infinite retarded-ness killed those by saying that they sounded great but really don't hurt. After Schiavone explained how the garbage can shots don't hurt, Bigelow went out and killed Hak dead with a wicked shot. Schiavone then (again) said it made a great noise , but didn't hurt as bad as it sounded" - April 12, 1999
"Asya, under her real name Christi Wolf, was on the Jenny Jones show playing the role of someone who was a geek in high school and look at her now. Now she's no longer a geek. She's just a woman who looks like a guy on steroids with giant implants"- June 7, 1999
"Ted Dibiase, who is still under contract although he is never used, was asked to come back and manage Van Hammer" - June 14, 1999
"Steiner undid the protective mats around ringside. He then piledrove Sting on a protective mat." - June 14, 1999
"The Great American Bash can be summed up in five words: This one was real bad" - June 21, 1999
"Thursday was supposed to be a grudge Flair vs. Benoit lumberjack match. However, WCW forgot to tell Flair he was booked. Flair finally arrived at 9:55pm, but they had already changed plans for the show because they had to be off the air at 10:03pm. When Flair got there, they told him he wasn't needed and to go right back home. So, as a panic move, the decision was made to turn the Kanyon-Saturn singles match into a tag title match. However, Bam Bam Bigelow wasn't there either, so Kanyon defended the titles with Page with zero explanation given to have this make sense. It wasn't even announced as a title match until about a minute left" - June 21, 1999
"Nash sold very little considering it was a 16-on-1 beating" - June 28, 1999
"Tank Abbot it still being flown in to every Nitro and still under contract, they just aren't using him" - June 28, 1999
"Bret Hart is planning on returning at the big Georgia Dome show. In WCW's infinite wisdom they never once mentioned Hart was coming back but did do an angle to build for the Ernest Miller vs. Jerry Flynn match for the show" - June 28, 1999
"Backstage, Savage threatened Torrie, and even gave her a slap. She noticeably laughed, ruining the scene. Even worse was Savage confronting Gorgeous George, ripping her Nash t-shirt off and literally throwing her across the room" - July 12, 1999
"The fans booed Hogan a lot. Sing asked the fans if he should team with Hogan. They booed heavily. Sting, listening to the advice of the fans, then agreed to team with Hogan" - August 02, 1999
"On a radio show this week, the host brought up that the Nitro main event lost to the Raw main event by a full four ratings points. Hogan's response was that it was Benoit, Malenko, Saturn and Douglas that brought the rating down and he had to make up for lost ground. For the record, the quarter with Benoit, Malenko, Saturn and Douglas drew a 3.3 quarter. The final quarter (Hogan vs. Sid) did a 2.9" - August 02, 1999
"Chris Jericho's final WCW match was 7/21 in Peoria, IL in a tag match teaming with Eddie against Kidman and Mysterio. Before the match, Jericho said that if he got pinned he'd leave WCW. Misterio than said everyone already knew it was his last night in WCW. After the match all four hugged in the ring. There were fans in tears, as was Jericho. Kidman started a Jericho chant. Jericho said that he was overwhelmed by the response, but he still thinks that Peoria sucks" - August 02, 1999
"Miller was legitimately very upset at Bagwell for the promo were Bagwell acted like Miller, particularly feeling that the black face made it come across as racist" - August 02, 1999
"Sid powerbombed La Parka on a bag of popcorn" - August 23, 1999
"In his infinite knowledge of how to play babyface, Dennis Rodman said in front of a crowd of 99.9% white guys from South Dakota that once you've had black, you will never go back. The crowd didn't like that" - August 09, 1999
"Hennig was getting over with the 'Rap is Crap' entrance music so what do they do? You guessed it. They gave him new entrance music that will never get over with the crowd" - August 16, 1999
"Hennig pinned Grunge. I've got no idea how because the cameras were somewhere else, and nobody cared enough to explain what we didn't see" - August 16, 1999
"Savage did an interview. The previous Thursday on Thunder, Savage promised to reveal who drove the Hummer and introduce a new bodyguard on Nitro. He did neither, nor were either even brought up" - August 16, 1999
"During the match, Alex Wright did his trademark high flying stomp from the top he does every match, and Tony Schiavone remarked, "I've never seen that move used before." - September 29, 1997
i met Jericho, i asked him to do the walls on me. "i can't do that on this concrete floor" :/
I heard that he had to modify the move slightly later in his career because it would genuinely hurt people quite badly.
btw, his teeth are whiter in person. seriously, you could be blinded
This is great; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lxzq7Pcf5cY&feature=fvwrel
Did anybody see this documentary about Scott Hall http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iA9Upk0j2tE
I knew he had troubles, but it was so sad to watch.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKEgdQdhjCE (an absolute MUST WATCH for austin fans, from before he came to wwe)
MY BELLY'S JUST A LITTLE BIG, MY HEINY'S JUST A LITTLE BIG BUT, BROTHER, I AM BAD.
foley's best promos (not as mankind) were very indebted to them.