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I quite like it, all things considered.
I do however, like how it says "1989: Born" and then nothing happens until 2007.
I like the big picture you can change at the top as well. I'll get used to it in time.
on a vertical axis, so you can scroll back to the first notable date (which is your birth)
Its a bit like your playing yourself in The Sims - pre-existing features that track what you read and listen to have been integrated into your main profile page, and you now have a backdrop image as well as a main profile picture. Its just more of Facebook trying to get you to see their site as a hub through which you access everything else. I like it
(how do you know who I am?).
ahahahaha indeed, you git :(
until next week, maybe.
but not as much as I hate myself.
14 minutes and you've completely changed your mind. I wish all girls were as easy to persuade as you
My mind that is, not my FB, cos I'm still workgin out how the fuck I do that.
or until the next change, whichever comes first.
The best bit is that it makes it really, really easy to manage your online presence - before, if you wanted to go back in time and delete old posts that you might have found embarrassing, it would have taken a lot of work, but the timeline makes that all quite simple. It's the most pro-privacy move Facebook has made I can think of.
Not too sure of the layout. Seems very confusing at first, but I'm sure I'll get used to it.
I thought things had moved on from that.
But the major difference is, it doesn't totally fuck your browser when you go on it like My_____ does now. (Do they still do that? That was pretty much the worst idea in the world. I heard MySpace Tom now works for Facebook as well. lol)
My privacy settings are set quite high, so when I'm eventually forced to upgrade onto it, I'm sure mine will just read '2011: Keith exists' accompanied by a picture of Kyle Maclaughlin.
Although it did somehow manage to publish some baby photos of me that weren't previously on the internet.
Particularly change that will drive home the fact I still look exactly the same as I did when I was a teenager and have done nothing with my life.
Oh fuck off, you guys.
cos I have a nice photo of Manchester there now, doubtless some people will just have an enormous close up of their faces though. I look forward to seeing those.
Go check out my jugs now, quickquick (I'm taking it down shortly).
Don't like the concept. It promotes the idea of personal identity persisting through a narrative. Let me define who I am; I don't want to be forced to think of myself, or have others be forced to think of myself, as the same person who existed x years ago.
but then I've made a resolution never to be the kind of plane-pointing / claps-with-their-fingers-bent-back cunt who complains about Facebook changing.
but no, not yet.
I sigh in anticipation of the coming days when not having an easily scrollable online (or whatever) history of you is judged by default to be the sign of a wrong 'un, until proven otherwise.
so I like it
I like the layout and being able to highlight key posts, photos, life event over the years would be great, but having it so people can browse everything by year and month is a bit much, would be good if they let you turn that level of browsability off. The black mirror scenario could be all too common, people snooping about previous relationships via wall post conversation. Can't really see any good reasons for someone to want to read back that far (except for the user themselves reminiscing), but there are creepy reasons aplenty.
I didn't like the last update either, they took away alot of control, when you posted on someones wall its always their privacy settings that determine who else could see it but atleast you could delete the 'you wrote on someones wall' so there was no direct link from your profile now you can only hide all writing on others wall stories or show them all, similarly you used to be able to restrict who could write on your wall by person or lists now the only options are all friends or no one, both these things they seem to be giving you an all or nothing approach to encourage you to have as open as possible or lose out otherwise. I guess they need to maximise open content to keep the site seeming lively and people interested, but I think it might backfire on them, this along with the new timeline profiles might attract people in the short run to spend more time poking around but I think it will also make people increasingly uncomfortable posting stuff in the first case, I pretty much just use it as MSN these days.
Gonna be a bit prentious now but I thought the current thinking on identity (people like bauman) was that all the traditional sources of a singular identity had been eroded, and that in the late/post modern/whatever age identity needs to be fluid to adapt to changes of circumstance and a greater variety of social contexts. Zuckerberg conception of identity seems to be you have one identity, for all time. He has said as much in interviews, wonder why he would think he is an expert. Kind of feel sorry for kids growing up today, their profiles will follow them exerting a weird kind of inertia on them, in the past people would drift away from people after school, try and invent themselves at university etc, I think you need that kind of space away from who you were (I know people can just not use facebook but its becaome such an important tool its probably pretty hard to resist, like mobile phones or something), im probably taking things too seriously here.
But anyway on the plus side I really like the map where you can tag and browse photos by location and time, ive always wondered if there was an online service that did that
I don't think it's slipping into paranoia to suggest that I think it's worth considering how our behaviour is changed by the ability to 'review' our lives in such detail (even if it's only the individual who reviews their own past). The obvious comeback is, as you say, the accusation of handwavery, and the claim that you can opt out. But can you? Well...yes..you can... but it's already far from the default to do so.
totally agree with the third paragraph
Interestingly though, the map is the feature i dislike, I disabled that shit straight away
easier to market one identity, easier to track user preferences, easier sell user data, easier target advertising as the user matures or their interests develop, etc.
its also easier to tie people into the service long term, even if the business model changes significantly in years to come, or if the scope of the business model expands to include other services which are not included at the moment.
the man's quite astute. i personally think he's a cunt, but i still have a grudging admiration for how successful he's made his business.
but think they would be better off to model their system around how people actually relate to different groups in real life (I know they have the lists things that give you some control but theyve opened other things up and give you options that encourage openness or lose out in someway), that way they get a more realistic picture and people wont be put off using it , they could still track things to one uniquely identifiable user for their evil data mining purposes.
I think its based on the need for maximising the access to content posted on the site which it relies upon, and these latest moves are out of desperation, the novelty has started to wear off and they need to keep people interested so open up old stuff for people to investigate, and take away the frustration of clicking on a profile and encountering an empty wall. But I think where they will fall down is whilst this is good from a user browsing point of view, lots of new stuff for people to explore, it might make people think twice about posting stuff in the first case
And I've been on here for quite some time, so well done.
but especially the fourth paragraph in the context of the third paragraph.
I guess it is abit of a condtridiction, but I meant for a person browsing their own photos (most of my photos are restricted to those in them), wanting to browse photos by location and time is natural its what photos are there for, the map/timeline is a good interface for that. Being able to browse time specific nonsense posts and wall conversations has a lot less value
my timeline keeps refreshing and jumping back to the very top / most current entry? Is this a Facebook glitch or to do with the settings on my laptop? This aside, I quite like it.
i've yet to see them make a change which doesn't bork something else on their website.
within the next few days
are you sure there's no opt out hidden somewhere, umpteen levels deep in the privacy settings?
^ Interesting read on the subject of fb and privacy.
and pictures of erect penises.
it's a fucking pain, can't see everything, only 'highlights' or some shit. it's also really easy to stalk people now.
Facebook scares me and what it's doing to the world
I'd have started a tumblr blog and added a shit theme if I wanted a shit looking tumblr blog.
I was reminded of the feeling I had when, as an 8 year old at my local library, I inadvertently opened one of those books with the massive print for pensioners.
one thing that annoys me : they've switched 'john is attending gig' to 'john is joining gig'. what? look, i'm joining this gig. are you joining the gig tonight? really daft. pointless
When you go to log out and click on the down arrow, the thing that SHOULD BLATANTLY BE AT THE BOTTOM OF THE LIST is 'Help'.
'Log out' is nestled in with 'Account settings' and 'Privacy settings'. It makes NO SENSE.
Tactical withdrawal: activated. I was already running a tight ship, but have now upped that by deleting 95% of the stuff that was sitting on my timeline.
it's second from the bottom. it's not 'nestled' anywhere
i know you like to have a sly dig at me from time to time - which is fine - i'm as fair game as anyone else on here. but you're only gonna make it stick if you're a) factual, or b) funny. otherwise it just comes across as snarky.
ok, how about nested, instead of nestled? whatever the subtelties of the word you prefer, the 'Log out' link is definitely part of a discrete, illogical section in that pull-down.
for the world's biggest website, it's stunningly bad design.
the point stands.
'all windows programs ever' have exit at the bottom of the file menu
wordpress (the most popular blog/site CMS) has log out at the bottom of the pull down at the top right of the page
so do twitter and gmail...
i got the impression you were implying it's a subtle ploy to stop people logging out. but it appears it's more of a design gripe.
I wanted to check something from outside FB the other day and was fairly bemused about that.
Google Mail have also hidden their logout away a bit.
they're kinda losing the plot with their obvious push to get everyone onto G+, imo
the avatar and your name text do the same thing, but are seperated by the alert counter and crappy share button. and all of those are shuffled along to the left by the 'settings gear' at the very top right - which is where the 'i'm going now, bye!' button should be.
DiS, a paragon of good design (I've always said so), has got it right.
as my pro evo -centric mates would call it
Probably not been rolled out in the East Midlands yet.
you should be an option to upgrade your profile on our pages.
I have become demonstrably more attractive and hilarious over time
and in two years looking back at now you'll hate your current self
I see no reasons why past trends should not continue
Need to raise my game.