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the film that bummed me out the most was probably lilya 4 ever.
it is unrelentingly bleak. and you know it's never going to let up either, right up to the excruciating montage of her with the clients.
To be honest my abiding memory of Lilya4Ever is that it's a bit of a rubbish film. Utterly, utterly one-note and it would have worked better to do a documentary about child trafficking rather than turning it into a single-issue story that was no story and all issue. It really didn't work for me.
Once Were Warriors is possibly the bleakest film I can think of.
Bleakest movies suggestions:
COME AND SEE
Is that the one I mean?
And Surviving- but I love that film.
and is basically a big redemption narrative (for the human race!) so denied, soz
Fucking depressed me
Never Ending Story.
Requiem for a Dream. Again, massive amounts of love.
And makes me want to kill myself.
I wanted to cry/kill myself after
can't remember what it's called without checking but tis a great film and very bleak
not strictly the ending but still a bit dumb of me posting that on here
not the Nicolas Cage version
precisely for the hilariously happy ending, it's so bonkers...
yeah, pretty pretttyyyyyyyy depressing.
isn't all that cheery.
Couldn't actually finish watching it because my partner couldn't take it any more - not one ray of light in that film
really can't stand British social realism.
Secrets and lies! We're all in pain! Why can't we share our pain? I've spent my entire life trying to make people happy, and the three people I love the most in the world hate each other's guts, and I'm in the middle! I can't take it anymore!
or anything other than Nil by Mouth that would qualify as British social realism within the context of this thread to be honest, but Nil by Mouth is one of my favourite films, so SHUT IT.
no, that's fine then. You gotta see (and enjoy) *one* social realist film in your life.
but it's completely fucking loathsome - if you can get over that then fair enough
for me, at least.
Especially when his step father is forcing that young prostitute to act like a dog.
Or more and more bleak, as you realise how idyllic their lives used to be...
When the wind blows
Henry: Portrait of a serial killer
Not seen them, but I imagine Nil By Mouth and the War Zone are up there too.
Man, that's rough.
I fucking hate it. But yeah, there's no letting up at all :'(
by saying that there's PLENTY of humanity in that movie, and despite the bleakness its power teeters agonisingly and exquisitely between nihilistic and redemptive - any other movies like this? (First person to say Pan's Labyrinth gets a slap because that movie is a pile of overrated, contrived, badly-scripted, badly-acted bobbins)
Negativity gets resulttttsssss
The Death of Mr Lazarescu. You probably haven't heard of it though.
but you probably haven't seen it because I made it myself and then destroyed all traces of its existence.
but my post was predicated upon the DiS massive knowing about TDOML, rather than not knowing
Anyway, be a sport and answer the question!
and how trifling this disagreement shall seem after we elope
bleakly funny too.
They've got the WHOLE THING on Google Video!
I'll get the popcorn, you guys get the fizzy drinks!!!!
parts of The War Game on youtube.
That was fun!
Just skipped through it to see if it was the film I watched at school. It was.
I skipped straight to the scene where someone is puking behind a mattress.
A short film about killing has to be a contender.
In Poland, it was instrumental in the abolition of the death penalty.
Mysterious Skin left me feeling wretched too, but is still amazing.
None more bleak. NONE.
oh no they haven't
mind you I haven't seen DZ so mea culpa etc
but i think The Bridge might be the winner of that one...
28 Bleaks Later
Eight Legged Bleaks
I can't remember if the story is all that depressing but man, does it ever *look* bleak
Especially the horse sequences:
...and when a director gives your mind a chance to excavate...they're usually the most bleak and disturbing moments in a film.
i'd say the silence/cries & whispers/scenes from a marriage for bleakest bergman - there's one shot in the movie cut of the latter which is a rare exterior shot in the middle of the movie where nothing is happening on a quiet swedish street, and it is just incredibly effective at evoking ennui etc.
not uplifting or anything but not as bleak as it could (should?) have been
anyway Through a Glass Darkly is probably the bleakest one I've seen
oh yes. true...my lasting impression of it is that its bleak tho. through a glass darkly is another good suggestion. i guess you can tell how depressed bergman must have been in that early '60s period
The Cook, The Thief, His Wife and her lover is pretty grim.
And it features the staple of most 'bleak'' films....a massive rape scene.
Also, the centre love affair in Cook thief....
It's that Lynchian trick of displaying shades of a character....rather then a fully formed individual. I thought Cook thief was an elaborate Beano strip.
Just *makes sick gargle at the back of throat*
most bruno dumont movies.
virgin stripped bare by her bachelors/woman is the future of man
not bleak*est* perhpas
the latter two are actually quite human/jolly, dealing w/ socialable but neurotic, lovestruck creatives (and are ostensibly comedies) but (i find anyway) there's an really dark unrelenting loneliness (esp. in virgin stripped bare...)
same for l'humanite
lots of fassbinder is bleak but pretty funny too. there are some semi-amusing scenes in beware of a holy whore! which are archetypally bleak
The funeral speech and the last 5 minutes ;( ;(
I find something quite life-affirming and uplifting about it overall though and I'm not sure why
it's also one of my favourite ever films.
It's at least as much about the process of solipsism as it is about *modern existential isolation* - good film though, aye
The funeral speech was really funny, not really bleak.
synecdoche was hilarious and depressing pretty much the entire way through
and as I said, it's in part a study of self-obsessed artistic bleakness *itself* - this is the guy who wrote Adaptation, remember
hilarious + depressing is pretty much what I was trying to cover upthread with that Lazarescu outburst, which I now regret :'(
like the bit with on his daughter's deathbed. or maybe that is depressing rather than just bleak, if there's any distinction.
not sure how saying it's a study of self-obsessed artistic bleakness means it's any less bleak - it's not like it's a spoof or anything?
but I also thought it was kind of a mess and not particularly well thought through. Strong contender for the award for most overrated film of the 2000s.
but pretty sure it's one of Béla Tarr's
it is excellent yes
(and not just because it's 7 hours long)
Not sure if this works.
the worst thing is, i'm only half kidding
The two Haneke I've seen have both been fairly bleak I suppose, but but that final shot of Hidden! The White Ribbon is a fucking masterpiece, but it's not so much bleak as grandly despairing, everyone's problems intercutting everyone else's and the whole lot falling into glorious damnation. Best film of the past 10 years too (well, since Mulholland Drive)
but not actually his bleakest. Save that for The Seventh Continent.
Without a doubt the bleakest thing I've ever seen.
Also 71 Fragments of a Chronology of Chance & Benny's video, which are the other two films that make up Haneke's self-named 'emotional
glaciation' trilogy. They are all brilliant films too...Haneke by my reckoning is some distance the best film maker working today.
It is about as bleak as anything I've ever seen, but the problem is it's almost bleak-by-numbers so it gets very tiresome and boring after a while. So, as a result it loses impact.
I thought it was tedious bollocks
maybe the bleakest film ever is an overhead shot of one young man posting incessantly to a single DiS thread, until everyone else leaves
or maybe it's The Plague Dogs, which I haven't seen, but which by some accounts makes Watership Down look like fucking Thomas the Tank Engine
or what happened to our animation industry, it's SO well made.
I don't watch these films as a rule. My brother was like "You should really watch Irreversible. It's horrible etc." No thanks.
Kind of a subthread for most utterly pointless film: The Virgin Suicides. God it was so boring. Who were main characters that I was supposed to feel any kind of relation to or warmth for? It was like a boring documentary that never developed. xXx 2: Return of X was more worthwhile.
I dunno, this is gonna sound pretentious but I think it works really well as a sort of paean to youth and lost innocence. Plus I just really like that kind of dreamy hazy emo thing it has going on, and the Air soundtrack is a stunner.
I need some happy things after seeing that film.
that and planes, trains and automobiles are the only two films that reduced me to tears
funnily enough both end with two buddies being there for each other. wonder what that says about me.
I haven't seen it before.
Went to see it at the ICA a few years back without knowing much about it. People started walking out after about 90 seconds when the 6-year-old got raped. For the first time. Of many. They carried on walking out all the way through. Can't say it was really worth sticking with it to the end. Bleak, awful and more bleak.
The Elephant Man
when they break into his room :'(
so sad :(
no doubt in my mind
that was supposed to go at the end.
but it is so bleak that it's worth mentioning again, many more times
plus Stroszek totally rules
OK, it's not *that* bleak, but:
a few savage beatings,
a cancer death,
a dog kicked to death,
a dog battered to death then beheaded,
a kid gets disfigured
and sophie from peep show goes to prison.
and the whole thing looks a bit grey. great film though.
maybe not bleak but i've never felt sadder after a film
Some twat started laughing near the end when Shukichi goes back home, alone, and talks to his neighbour.
I was so, so angry.
Just horrible. That bit in particular. Genuinely wish I hadn't watched it.
When the Wind Blows
Grave of the Fireflies
The Plague Dogs
+ maybe Night on the Galactic Railroad to recover a bit with some beautiful dreamlike strangeness mixed with the ;___;
this isnt so bleak - but do you guys like piotr dumala ?
crime & punishment
Five Easy Pieces gets pretty bleak too - it has a few comic relief scenes, but they get fewer & further between as the story progresses, and the ending is pure descent-into-hell.
Bleak in that you're trapped in that cinema for 2 hours
Bleak bleak bleak. But no socially bleak. I find socially bleak movies hard to sit through, especially when it involves rape. I think rape is worse than murder in many cases.
not a fucking patch on the book, of course. you read it? Cormac McCarthy is in a class of his own. got to get past the lack of speech marks and sitch first (and in other novels like 'The Orchard Keeper', archaic Amercan colloquialisms like 'sitch'), but it's worth it.
it's a decent adaptation, but it loses the sheer sprawling wonder of McCarthy's untouchable descriptive skills. as with any of his books, it's heavy on atmosphere, which means on film, the human element has to be especially well interpreted: for the record, I think Mortenson and the kid do a fine job. but yeah...McCarthy actually captures/conjures a landscape beyond the powers of any camera. he's that good.
I hope I'm not sounding horribly pretentious here!
I've read The Road and of course, No Country For Old Men and I enjoyed them so much. You're very right about the atomosphere and tension that McCarthy conjures - the sheer humanity of it all brought a tear to my eye in many scenes throughout the book and the movie.
Great story though, it just struck me as being so realistic.
"Once there were brook trout in the streams in the mountains. You could see them standing in the amber current where the white edges of their fins wimpled softly in the flow. They smelled of moss in your hand. Polished and muscular and torsional. On their backs were vermiculate patterns that were maps of the world in its becoming. Maps and mazes. Of a thing which could not be put back. Not be made right again. In the deep glens where they lived all things were older than man and they hummed of mystery."
breathtaking. he breaths life into his words like no-one else I know of. the way he writes about the natural world makes it seem vividly alive. and mankind's place in McCarthy's depictions of the world surrounding it is never less than profound.
true about it being realistic...there's no fat, no excess in it. I'm sure many people find it gruelling, especially since there is no really happy ending like folks have been conditioned to expect. but if you're that way inclined, like everyone posting in this thread, the beauty makes it all worthwhile.
"and mankind's place in McCarthy's depictions of the world surrounding it is never less than profound"
clumsily written. what I mean to say is that the mankind is always at the mercy of the world in his novels. especially 'The Road'.
bleak, nasty, unpleasant.
I sat in small arts cinema watching it with one other person. I remember retching when i first saw the forced shit eating.
Want to get it but it seems difficult to find for reasonable prices.
This was several years ago though. You can have my copy if you want, not really the sort of thing I want to watch repeatedly.
Tartan went out of business though I think so I guess had the rights to it or something.
the sadness is compounded by the fact that there are few things happier than little girls in Gibli films.
when I saw said film, I realised that my previous bleakest, 'Dancer in the Dark', is actually horribly manipulative and heavy handed. The sadness in GotF is graceful and natural, and balanced out by the sweetness that persists even after the story takes its saddest turn.
DitD is just Lars Von Trier out to wrench the most severe reactions from the viewers. Saying that, it works...in the pivotal moment, I felt like I'd been winded...horribly sad.
can't get enough of that stuff, though. this thread makes me feel like an uncultured whelp, whole worlds of unbearable bleakness that I really ought to have explored.
anyone? like with Grave of the Fireflies, it's the sullying of innocence, the juxtaposition of the innocent and the horribly adult.
the final scenes are properly crushing. the guy who plays Brian is amazing.
and yeah, the ending (in particular) is just emotionally brutal. Both the leads are amazing really.
Haven't seen Grave Of The Fireflies yet, half-tempted to watch it tonight though.
before watching. with regards to the subject matter, and how it would work in a film. but it's dealt with sensitively without balking at the real darkness of the issues at hand.
is that it was released in Japan as a double bill with My Neighbour Totoro. How did that work?
I think because it was the early days of Studio Ghibli it was just to save on marketing costs, you can still buy reprints of the posters that have both films on them (i want one)
ddo you watch 'its always sunny in philadelphia'?
I remember coming out of the cinema gobsmacked then wanting to hang myself from the nearest tree, requesting to listen to Strange Fruit as the last song I ever hear. Great film though.
Dead romantic, me.
Nous ne vieillirons pas ensemble
opening night...like the fassbinder. i suppose what i find *really* bleak is when characters like gena in that movie gain the pirandelloean awareness that they are just really a actor; even spiritual anguish or w/e is an re-enactment of the signifier for 'spiritual anguish' along a clearly-defined set of preconditions maybe
also, in her shoes
Someone mentioned Tokyo Story, and that's a pretty sad film alright, but this one makes Tokyo Story look like Mary Poppins.
My favourite Ozu film for sure.
A film that begins in pretty grim fashion and then gets progressively worse minute by minute; resulting in one of the most devastatingly hopeless ending scenes in cinema history. Wonderful film.
Incestuous rape, torture, dog murder, paedophilia.
Horrible film: http://bit.ly/pkbqBz
Also, I thought Tyrannosaur was a pile of shit. A compendium of awful working class cliches and monotonous violence. No insight whatsoever. (Quite well acted though)
I saw it at the end of a 4-film day at the LFF last year. Had to go for a long walk afterwards, really stayed with me.
Eraserhead yet? That film is the definition of bleak. Depressing characters, dark, colourless cinematography, miserable setting, weird freak child, just completely, totally bleak.
Grave of the Fireflies :(
They hadn't seen it, so i told them it was about the heartbreak and subsequent descent into madness of a man betrayed by his fiancée, ending with his total mental breakdown and eventual suicide. And it has cancer plotlines, that's always bleak.
Aside from that what springs to mind is Twelve Monkeys. The ending always makes me feel futile and helpless and alone :[
As part of a science lesson.
And it makes you feel really cold too.
some that haven't been mentioned so far...
everything ever made by Michael Haneke but particularly The Seventh Continent, 71 Fragments of a Chronology of Chance & Benny's Video.
Even Dwarves Started Snall - Herzog (not his best but his bleakest imo)
The Barbarian Invasions - Denys Arcand
Julien Donkey-boy - Harmony Korine
Happiness - Todd Solondz (by far his best film too)
Safe - Todd Haynes
A Short Film About Killing & Dekalog 1 - Krystof Kieslowski
No Man's Land - Danis Tanovic
For some reason I also find Easy Rider very bleak and not just the ending...the whole thing just has a dark undercurrent running through it.