Skyfall
Supposedly Sony have been buying up domains with this in leading people to suspect this will be the title for Bond 23.
23!!! That's a lot of films in a series.
Anyway, hopefully it'll have a director who can hold a camera steady-ish during action.
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I thought various sources had been suggesting Carte Blanche as the next film title?
Both are a bit shit, though no worse than Quantum of Solace.
Agree about the shaky camera work. I pretty much hated both Daniel Craig films, whereas I'm the only person in the world to love all the Brosnan films (aside from Die Another Day. I'm happy to admit, that was shit). Tomorrow Never Dies/The World is Not Enough are both great though.
Carte Blanche?!?!
Fucking hell.
...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carte_Blanche_(novel)
That sounds pretty good actually
Fair dos
I love the Brosnan films too
He's got everything.
He looks like Bond (tall, dark, handsome), he's funny, he's tough (I NEVER MISS when he shoots Elektra), he kicks ass, he added his own little details (adjusting his tie when the speedboat went underwater in TWINE) he wears a suit well, he pulled off gadgets... Daniel Craig is Gollum playing rugby, but not as funny as that sounds.
I had him pegged for Bond years and years before he was picked
Back in the days of Remington Steele. He's got the suaveness and the sophistication.
Then again, I'm one of those worthless folk who prefers Roger Moore to Sean Connery.
You people are all kinds of wrong.
They wanted Brosnan back in the Remington Steele days but he couldn't break that contract.
Brosnan's a great Bond but of his four films, two rival Moonraker for badness, one beats it and the other thinks about rivalling it.
Casino Royale is fucking brilliant. Probably the best Bonds in my mind after that are The Living Daylights, For Your Eyes Only, Live And Let Die, OHMSS (maybe...), Goldfinger, FRWL...
I'm not going to be lectured on my Bond tastes by a man who puts OHMSS in their top five.
He looks at the camera and says 'Well that never happened to the other fellow!' Irredeemable.
But if it weren't for Lazenby it would be so much better regarded.
You actually get Bond acting human. I think it's pretty great tbh.
But then my favourite Bond is Dalton so most people ignore me.
Dalton is by far the best Bond
So you're correct, well done.
I did put 'maybe'.
The thing about OHMSS is it's one of the best books and one of the best translations of that. Lazenby is utterly bad and the direction is very much tinged with the fashion of its time, but Diana Rigg is excellent as are the rest of the cast and the plot is really excellent.
I knew that about Brosnan and his contract, for the record
I'll accept your distinction between Brosnan-as-Bond and the films he was in. I don't remember disliking any of the films (but, hey, I like Moonraker), but it's the value if Brosnan as Bond that I want to reinforce.
As for Casino Royale, yes, it's a good, maybe even great, film. The trouble is that it doesn't feel like a Bond film, unsurprisingly seeing as if was made to be anything but a Bond film. The trouble with Daniel Craig is that he's a great Bond for a Bond film that's not a Bond film, but he's not a great Bond for a Bond film.
I don't think its' meant to feel like a Bond film (CR, I mean)
The point of the end of Quantum of Solace was to say the next film will be all totally Bond. It's an interesting idea. The fact that I really enjoyed Casino Royale as a book is one of the reasons I like it. That and the fact I like them better when they're fairly grounded spy thrillers.
I do enjoy Moonraker but that's more because Jaws is such a fantastic character. Without him it would be truly terrible.
For Your Eyes Only!?!?!?!!??
this is genuinely the most mental thing anyone's ever posted on drownedinsound.
For Your Eyes Only
it's good, mainly. a bit more "dark and serious", or as much as you can be with Roger Moore playing the lead. couple of daft bits like the opening sequence, but overall reasonably decent effort. If only they had got rid of 60-year-old Roger Moore. If it had been Dalton or Brosnan even at the time, it would be one of the classic Bonds.
blofeld being dropped down a chimney
roger moore being about 800. 'thatcher' at the end.
not only my least favourite bond film but probably my least favourite film. not only worse than octopussy and die another day, but worse than watchmen & the fountain.
ok, i haven't seen it for years
-Blofeld/Chimney - awful
-the skiing sequence where they cut between pensioner-age Moore and a twentysomething stuntman
-and Moore's increasingly creepy womanising act with some teenage ice-skater...
-forgot about the ridiculous Thatcher scene actually.
if they had got a different actor, director, script, style and vision it could have been a great film, other than that, nothing hugely wrong with it. . .
See below. Those are my reasons for thinking it has a lot going for it.
Moore's age is the main issue but then it was for Octopussy and View to a Kill (christ, View to a Kill!) to an even greater degree.
I pick my Bonds based on them having a story which transcends the worry about 'babes' and 'gadgets' because, frankly, story is the most important thing.
Hang on, I refuse to take this shit from a man who thinks Lost is better than The Wire. :p
The opening bit is one of the few bad openings for a Bond, mainly because it's such a pissy two fingers to the studio that owned Thunderball.
But it has no bearing on the rest of the film.
I also find it interesting that you claim Roger Moore looks old in this yet Octopussy (made two years later) is fine? OCTOPUSSY? Fucksake man.
The reason FYEO is in my list is because at its heart it's a proper spy movie with very few (maybe one?) actual gadget. It's stripped down after the fiasco of Moonraker and has a plot that works and while you might object to 'Thatcher' at the end what I remember is the spirit of such Cold War dramas where at the last Bond destroys the device and he and the General from the USSR share a moment of entente and détente.
Is that really how you spell Brosnan? It looks weird. Brosnan.
Bros-nan. Bro-snan. Anyway. I agree. All of his films except Die Another Day were great. Is this is actually an unpopular opinion? People are all kinds of wrong.
There are some great action sequences in his films.
And Robbie Coltrane's scenes are fantastic.
But they're just so plasticky and crappy in production values: A-Team style stuff with people getting out of cars that were just run over by tanks, and the whole of Tomorrow Never Dies is really just a series of set pieces with a plot worked out afterwards.
There's a plot?
Sam Mendes is directing
though I guess it might be someone else who directs the action sequences.
Skyfall seems too short a title for a Bond film.
Goldeneye and Goldfinger
say there's precedent.
And Thunderball and Goldfinger...
None of those are two syllables.
Don't forget Goldfinger eh
Wait, what about GOLDFINGER?!
(I think I meant to put Octopussy. Buh.)
OCTOPUSSY!!!
The 2nd Unit guy did all the action on QoS
and he was the guy from Bourne. Problem is that sort of camera work is okay in Bourne where you're mostly filming close fistfights but on big action set pieces with cars and planes... Christ.
No, that kind of camera work is shit for Bourne too
I'm not a fan but in Bourne it's just annoying.
In Quantum of Solace you actually don't have a clue what's happening.
whocares
Bond won't die and he'll be there in time to stop the bomb going off.
I stopped caring ever since the baddie got dropped into a chimney.
why won't they get rid of daniel craig
that bland, uncharismatic, humour vacuum
The first one was okay
not brilliant but interesting enough. But the second was weak as piss.
in saying that, it's the best bond they've made
if you're into the actual bond fleming wrote. you know, the books and that.
A lot of people say this, and it's a fair argument, but I decided a long time ago that I don't want Bond films to be like the books.
If you like the books, fine, read them. They're not very good, but knock yourself out. The films are a whole different thing, they've got a different ethos and a different personality and a different mythology. I don't think Casino Royale harking back to them really worked.
I think Dalton's the closest to the Bond of the books.
Craig's alright, though. I prefer him to Moore or Brosnan.
He's a great James Bond
so was Brosnan in different ways. Brosnan's films were all awful bar Goldeneye though.
Your mum's a bland, uncharismatic, humour vacuum.
it's 2.13 films a year
not bad when most current sequels are turned around in =<2 years.
Skyfall:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/27/Skyfall-timelines.jpg
I just presumed the next film would explain what the fuck happened in Quantum of Solace
apparently not
A whole lot of wrong in this thread, I'm looking at you h_y_g.
This is shaping up to be a good film. Ralph Feinnes is in it, Javier Bardem lined up to tbe bad guy, Rhys Ifans as a possibly Q type characcter (that's my own speculation, he's Welsh like the old Q and looks a bit sciencey), Moneypenney will likely be back in it, plus you've got Sam Mendes directing who proved he can direct memorable scenes featuring men with guns in Road to Perdition.
The only weak link is those piss artists Purvis and Wade, who were responsible for TWINE, Die Another Day and fucking Jonny English. Don't know how they keep getting employed to write Bond cos they clearly know shit. I attribute all the bad bits of Casino Royale to them. On the other hand, John Logan is also on screenwriting duties and he's not bad. Also apparently Patrick 'Peter O'Hanrahanrahan' Marber is helping with the script too.
If this is anything less than solid I'll be extremely disappointed.
Bring back Dalton
He must be stopped. He is a slasher.
I like the sound of a lot of that.
I have no gripe with Mendes, Marber, Feinnes, Bardem, Ifans, or a lot of other suggestions.
My issue would be if it becomes another humourless, weeping-in-the-shower, my best gadget is a defibrillator in my car, shaky cam moan fest. I want Moneypenny, I want Judi Dench re-installed as M, and I want stunts that make boring cunts go 'Well, if he tried that in real life, his arms would be ripped off'. Keep Bourne as Bourne, Bond as Bond.
This must be how those old-school Batman fans felt when Christopher Nolan tried to make everything more gritty.
I thought it went sort of the wrong kind of gritty with the reboot, personally.
I was hoping, when they said it would be a more downbeat Bond, that they were going to take it back to the kind of Dr No/From Russia With Love style. I like cold war espionage - you can have ridiculous gadgets without it being campy. I've also always thought there's scope to make a properly brilliant noir-ish Bond film, if they put their mind to it.
^Massively this.
I think they were hamstrung by only have Casino Royale to use as original material.
It's impossible to do that film without the love story, just as in OHMSS so they had to run it in that way.
I thought Dench was definitely back as M...
i like the one where the laser beam goes up his jaffers
Anyone else heard that fan theory that 'James Bond', like M and Q and Moneypenny, is a code name?
I like it. The films make much more sense if you believe that. Apparently some of the directors of the more recent movies have believed it too and all, so it's sort of becoming canon. In a way.
What, so each Bond is actually a completely different person?
I like that. Although IIRC in the Spy Who Loved Me glangalangalanglang Roger Moore's Bond does mention his dead wife Tracy which happened with Lazenby, but that's just once I guess. NERD.
They all have the same back story though, retconning permitting.
Educated at Gordonstoun, Oriental languages at Oxford, Royal Navy.
True, plus they all happen to be womanising mavericks.
I like to see Bond as like Link, in the Legend Of Zelda.
Actually it's also brought up in the (pretty bad IMO) Licence to Kill
The bit with Felix and Bond at the beginning is the biggest negative to the classic 'they're all codenames' bit.
Obviously M and Q *are* codenames, with 'M' actually being 'C' in real life if you believe Frederick Forsyth. (Can't remember which book it's in, probably The Fourth Protocol, but apparently the head of MI6 is always called 'C' after the firs director http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mansfield_Smith-Cumming - Fleming's 'joke' was to use the initial of his first name instead.)
Ah, but Felix is different in different films too.
So he's also a code name. He's such a pro he even gets married using his code name rather than his real one, too.
Yeah but that conversation at the start of Licence to Kill
specifically is about OHMSS and stuff.
A wizard did it.
Well a lot of people point out the ridiculous situation of Britain's top undercover agent introducing himself with his real name around the world...
But what does it matter? It IS him name, just like M is M's name. Commander Bond. And surely 007 is his equivalent of M or Q?
And who says Moneypenny is a codename?
It's not the same woman playing Moneypenny in every film, is the idea.
Not a perfect theory, of course, because it's only recently been thought up to make the series a bit more realistic, but I like the idea that the James Bond moniker is saved for MI6's suavest, most bad-ass agent of every generation.
Deed Poll
plus those people who make personalised mugs.
It'll be shit
But all the previews will say it's 'closer to the books' then the last lot.
I can't decide what Bond films are most like: either Noel Gallagher deriding the most recent Oasis album then saying that the new one is 'better than Definitely Maybe'
OR
every new Soviet Union leader denouncing their predecessor and claiming that they're putting things back on track.
Apparently this hotty has been confirmed as the Bond Girl
http://cdn.whatculture.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/Picture-47-248x300.png
Looks a bit like the last one.
PLus Ben Whishaw has been cast. I LOVE Ben Whishaw.
Now we're getting to the important issues
Who is she?
Where does she live etc
Never been a fan of Bond films
Not sure why that is. Even as a child I found them unbelievably boring.
They're all fucking long anyway (2.5 hours?)
and they're always on ITV with a BILLION advert breaks so, yes, they can often end up seeming pretty long and bit dull.
A wee ninety minute romp...
...I could definitely get on board with.
guys this is the theme!
(CHORUS)
Skyfallllllllllllllllllll Der ner ner nerrrrrrrr
Skyfallllllllllllllllllll Der ner ner nerrrrrrrr
The skyyyyyyyy will fallllllll na na na na na
Falllllling sky ner ner ner nerrrrrrrrrrrr
(VERSE)
Ooooooooh look up into the sky
(I'm looking I'm looking)
Do you notice anything?
(What specifically?)
It's getting Cloooooooooooooooooser!!!
(CHORUS)
(VERSE)
Oh man if the sky falls we're all doomed
(who can save us?????)
Only one man?
(Batman? Superman? Green Lantern?) NO
(CHORUS)
probably my favourite 1st verse in any song ever.
yeah I think whoever wrote it lost enthusiasm after that.
Still can't be any worse than Jack and Alicia
Actually I found Jack White's effort really frustrating
because it seemed to keep threatening to be great and then never bothered. 5 minutes of `This is going to kick arse any second now` then `oh that's it?`
yep, that's definitely what she said
It was better than fucking Chris Cornell's bollocks for Casino Royale.
Actually better than a lot of them in my opinion.
well
I can't really argue with that.
chris cornell's one is really good
Agreed
top 5 in my opinion
POTY
Still laughing :'D
Dr. Nowt
*Dr No Vocal Cords
Eeee, Octopussy.
Licence T' Kryryrrll
doesn't work
Poontaker
License to Bill
You only die again tomorrow another day twice
23 films later
and I still don't give a shit about bond films, I feel weird about this... in the same way people always look at my odd when I say I don't care too much about The Beatles
that's not why they're looking at you odd
You should try saying other things and see if the reaction is the same.
if it is, maybe you have a wierd face.
Comments from a YouTube of the GoldenEye credits:
@gielomir and @vydeogoy thumbs up? for you two shutting up
xpepax1997 4 days ago 2
@gielomir3 thumbs for me nott being gay? xD
vydeogoy 4 days ago
@vydeogoy thumb? up for you being gay xD
gielomir3 4 days ago
@gielomir3 thumb? up for you shutting up xD
vydeogoy 4 days ago
@vydeogoy thumbs up for? Famke Janssen
gielomir3 4 days ago
thumbs up for naked? chicks in intros
vydeogoy 2 months ago 74
So this is going to be announced today:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-15558355
I hope they go for one of the unused Fleming titles. '007 in New York' has an exotic ring to it.
they should just call it
007
that'd work.
007 Goes to the Moon!
007 on Holiday!
Officially Skyfall then.
Bardem is the baddy.
Jessie J doing theme song.
Albert Finney's in it too
Calypso from Pirate of the Carribean as Moneypenny
MODERNIZE
I seriously thought she was a grown up Tatyana Ali the first time I saw her
Y'know, Ashley from Fresh Prince...
Jessie FUCKING MANDEM MANDEM J?
That's quite possibly the worst choice they've ever made.
Producer Barbara Broccoli said no one had yet been chosen to write and perfom the Bond theme tune
well played
:)
Cubby will be turning in his grave
she's such a massive tool
Fucking loathe James Bond
Good for you.
Now fuck off.
Think the new Bond should be pretty much exactly
like the recent Tinker Tailor...., but with, you know, a bit more humour.
Let's Google the new Bond girl then...
Bérénice Marlohe...
I'LL BE THERE.
The baddie in this looks so fucking shit
the trailer is like : SCARY DRAMATIC MUSIC and then this absolute comedy, smiley faced dyed blonde hair creature appears. colour me scared.
For British Eyes Only!
Getting pretty good reviews.
I'M EXCITED.
Didn't like it nearly as much as I thought I was going to
reviews ruined it both because you knew exactly what was going to happen throughout the film and because the meta stuff really got on my nerves. Also Javier Bardem made the rest of the cast look a bit daft.
There was a bit where Severin (? you know the girl) said "Not like this, not him" to Bond at the Chinese bar. It was lifted word for word from another film but I spent ages trying to remember which one. Also when Bond is running away from an explosion at one point, it was shot and looked exactly like how it did in another Bond film, but, again, couldn't remember which.
i thought it was terrific
and the bad guy was actually the worst bit. so there
ahaha severin
http://i.imgur.com/S9aOP.jpg
ahaha wigfall
http://i.imgur.com/ho1SE.jpg