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James Corden! Cybermen! The penultimate episode! Guess we'll see how it goes.
i really liked him in the episode he done. Ive got a feeling he might be in the next few.
I HAVE AN APP FOR THAT
the river song amy pond storyline?
that's the bit in the this episode leading into the next
the twist will be however the doctor gets out of it, which will be something that renders this entire season canonically void.
I enjoyed seeing the Doctor and James Corden just bounce off one another through the episode and the main plot just got in the way somewhat. Maybe the weakest episode since returning from the break, but I'm still really enjoying this series.
yeah yeah the bullshit about the cybermen or whatever that didn't even matter. it served its purpose as the doctors seemingly last adventure, all incredibly confused and coming to terms with his death. it didnt matter what happened in the episode or rather what adversary he faced, the whole I'M GOING TO DIE TOMORROW stuff was completely spot on and thats what mattered.
But I think they worked well last series too. As a geek I enjoyed seeing the Cybermat too. And I laughed a lot.
Really thought that the Cyber controller bit was going to be a shocking, pivotal moment. They wussed out there.
Next weeks looks like it'll either be immense or a total mess. I suspect it'll be both. And see the end of River Songs involvement in the show.
I hope next week isn't the final time we see River Song. Not because I especially like her or anything, but their relationship has been talked about so much and if her falling in love with the doctor is just going to be covered by the 2 of them consulting different diary entries and them both talking really fast, it will just annoy me. Surely they are meant to have lots more adventures together and blah blah blah.
although perhaps that's because the River-arc is way too overplayed for me. I've really grown to dislike her character and the increasingly convoluted and bloated backstory that has built up over the course of the series.
Anyway, I really enjoyed that. The story was throw away but the entertainment was thorough.
Was kind of expecting it, what with next week wrapping things up, but the appearance of that woman freaked me out, she's right sinister, still love the silence too, a great character. I just hope next week is focussed.
Not a fan of Corden really but his chemistry with Smith is great. Really brought back the feeling from the last season of the Doctor being physically young but mentally very old, and all the I'm going to die tomorrow stuff was really actually quite sad.
Fully expecting next week's to be a total car crash though. Moffat seems incapable of giving us a proper pay off
I really liked the finale last year
Last year's finalé was the best yet.
But given how FUCKING AMAZING the pandorica opens was, it was a bit underwhelming
Oh we'll just THINK the Doctor back into existence - FUCK OFF
I'm still trying to un-think Piers Morgan. Can I get some help here?
The great fantastical opener, the superb Pandorica opens, The Lodger was fun, the Silmurilian two-parter did the best job yet of doing a 'aren't human beings snidey little shits?' storyline, I thought the Angels 2 parter was very good, Amy's Choice was hugely underrated and I even liked the Van Gogh one, though it was a bit laboured.
Only an average Dalek episode (though I DID like how it reset them and maybe them relatively badass again) and an ok Vampires of Venice story let it down a bit.
As was half of Starship Britannia or whatever.
The Venice one was pretty ropey.
I don't think there's much wrong with this series either, to be honest.
Do you think overall you prefer S5 to S6?
Obviously we've not seen the finale yet, but I'd be interested to hear your thoughts.
Personally I think this series might just have the edge, but then I'm a total sucker for River Song so I guess a lot of people's enjoyment of this year will depend on whether they like that story.
For me the only really dull story this year was the Pirates one, and then I think the Gangers and Night Terrors should have been a lot of better...but they are still decent. Everything else for me would be at least an 8/10, with quite a few 9s and two 10s. And then I guess the Christmas one kinda counts as part of this run (it'll be on the box set) and that is one of my very favourite Moffat episodes of all.
Generally the standard of Moffat's Who has been staggeringly high I think. Truly a golden age.
CANNOT WAIT UNTIL SATURDAY.
but I've still enjoyed this one a lot, Matt Smith livens up even the weaker episodes, Rory's character has got better and better since he came back in The Pandorica Opens and Amy is very good and her Scottish accent remains music to my ears after Catherine Tate's nails down a blackboard time on the show.
Overall, the production values and feel of the show has improved loads. Rory has been far better written this year, The Doctor has come into his own managing to be ancient and totally naive... I like the greater ambition and trying to take on the bigger U.S. shows and a storyline that twists and turns.
BUT trying to marry up a show which is the varied sum of its contributors with one with an overriding story arc has led to pacing issues, stories being semi-resolved in a hastily mumbled 10 second bit of exposition, characters acting totally inconsistently (one week Amy loses her baby, the next she's happy to poodle off on an adventure) and a continuing feeling of slight disappointment of what 'could' have been.
It's partly the shows' makers fault. If they hadn't done such a good job with all the River Song set up storylines then I might not have cared so much, but that coupled with the constant twitter, promo and TV ads saying 'OMG NEXT WEEK IS SUPER AMAZING' has left in a state of agitated throwaway teen energy relishing next week's show continuously more than enjoying the one I just watched.
I have very little doubt that when I rewatch this series back in 6 months time it'll be ace when I've stopped reading into every last word, rewatching past shows for clues and moaning about it on here with Theo.
Certainly The girl who waited and The Doctor's wife have gone straight into my top 10 new Whos of all time.
in sheer disbelief that it is STILL on telly.
I'm going to go listen to the theme tune now...
That's the question. Did the ganger really explode or was it a trick? Was there a third one out there? Is the reason Old Amy wasn't allowed in the TARDIS not that it couldn't maintain the paradox but that it was already maintaining a double-Doctor paradox? Is there one with a long coat and one with a short coat?
Red vs blue bow ties. At times Matt Smith does this weird Gordon Brown, tired face and at others he's a bubbly young spritely thing. They keeping joking about how Rory keeps dying. The theme of 'love' saving the day and rewriting time has cropped up now 4 or 5 times.
Then there's the voice in the TARDIS, how the Doc let himself out of the Pandorica...
I'M DOING IT AGAIN!!!! IT'S BASICALLY GOING TO GET SOMEONE RESETTING TIME ISN'T IT?
If the reset finally brings back Gallifrey that would be amazing. Otherwise, not so amazing.
With him having crazy long hair in the finale as well as normal length?!
Trying not to read any spoilers or even theories though...don't want this getting ruined for me.
Anyone notice that one?
It's dozens of different writers, with varying levels of interest in sci-fi. What RTD did well was make sure the general public were on board (casting of Billie, having them return to a central Earth premise, broadening the character relationships) which initially the geeks overlooked but eventually came to hate and wanted more proper sci-fi storylines.
So we got Moffat and got this. Now my sister hates it and all the geeks whinge they could do a better job.
It's the nature of the show really. One week it's the best thing ever, the next it's garbage.
Still, at least it's better than the old days. If you didn't like Doctor Who storylines back in the 80s, tough shit - they were often 10 part stories. I remember my Dad would often decide after 2 to give up for 3 weeks then try again later on.
But the rest of it was brilliant basically. I had totally tuned out towards the end of the RTD/Tennant era, and only watched his finale and I thought I'd give Matt Smith a go, and he combined with Moffat have made me as obsessed again as I was as a kid.
I think the split in this one has hampered it massively. I struggle to even remember the first half now, but then thinking on it you had the Amy is a ganger moment (me and the missus' jaws dropped as everything sat perfectly into place) and of course I don't think I've ever been more excited by anything more than The Doctor will return in Let's Kill Hitler. And whilst The Doctor's Wife wasn't at all what I was expecting, it was absolutely wonderful.
Maybe everything will sit together next week. I hope so. I think it's also struggled just because the last season set the bench so fucking high
The reason that moment with Amy being so shocking was because THAT was this evil Doctor character we'd been told about. THAT was a shocking twist. THAT changed the series forever.
The trouble is they say that the next episode will nearly always do this, when in fact the only one that has was the one we weren't expecting.
I know the publicity machine wants to keep us all tuning in but seriously, a big picture of a Cyberman would do that anyhow. No need to say 'Next week is all about the River Song twist', giving the geeks a week to work out every possible outcome and decide that it was merely one of them and a bit 'meh'.
I'm not sure I approve of all of Nolan's views on Batman, but his take that the big reveals should be left for the film itself is spot on in my view. That's partly why TDK was very good, and The Matrix Reloaded was essentially an extended version of its (admittedly great) trailer.
Less is more.
It's more down to the script. And the directing. And the (lack of) story. And the 'acting'. And the fact that once you watched The Matrix in the cold light of good movies instead of the crushing disappointment of Episode I it wasn't even all that.
More that if the trailer is amazing and gets you forthing in a frenzy, where does the movie go from there? People saw that trailer and spent 2 years wondering what else was coming. Then they saw the end result and realised 'nothing'.
I just sometimes think there's a lot to be said for keeping a few trump cards close to your chest and surprising people.
(Sorry not sure if that was hyperbole or I just missed it.) I agree with your central point just reckon that those are two of the worst films I've ever sat through. :D
I let Reloaded go convinced Revolutions would make it all come good. How wrong I was...
There was a teaser about 2 years before I *think*. The main all singing all dancing one that was essentially the entire film was more like 9 months before.
On subsequent viewing, Reloaded isn't AS bad as I remember it.
The problem is that the protagonist is essentially invincible, which removes any layer of threat. The bit with Morpheus and Trinity on the highway is really exciting because they could die.
The plot is a bit weak, but it's not helped by Revolution's conclusions of IT JUST IS OK. Revolutions conversely is FAR worse than I remember
I found the whole thing achingly dull, watching fight after fight where no one really had anything to lose.
One of the worst film scenes ever
and the dialogue was so bad I had to turn it off.
The set pieces are still great, it's true. I'll have to start midway through next time.
And he opens the door and it's Harvey not the bird, there was a large audible gasp.
I mean, it was SO obvious, but Nolan is a master at placing something obvious in front of your face and making you ignore it
But from the jail scene onwards, my brain suddenly went 'Wow, there's nothing left of the trailer yet we've got an hour to go?' I sat there, crossed my arms and felt so good not having ANY clue what was looming.
I miss those days, where you'd not even know a film was coming out until it was on the side of a bus.
We all expected Dent to end up with half a face so it seems logical to think it'll be because Gordon can't get there quick enough.
And equally, it's Maggie Gyllenhaal (sp?) playing a character who had script immunity in Begins so it doesn't seem conceivable she could die.
(When she died I wished Holmes had been able to come back for the film after all.)
I could copy and paste that under most of the posts you make. Your logic often escapes me
I mean it's a classic bluff but it's surprising because of the way in which we view films, because we understand how they work and because we knew certain things had to happen.
I guess it's just impossible to explain the subtle point I'm making.
(That bit blew me away too, btw.)
Thinking the Doctor back into existence is perfectly fine by me
literally everything about what's going on with the overarching storyline this series, and probably actually a few before it.
If Doctor Who is for kids, why don't I understand anything?
Spends a lot of time on Earth being emo.
the writers can't stand the thought that they've spent their entire lives thinking about and working on a kids' show, so try to make it as unnecessarily complex as possible, but in the end it's still about an alien in a spaceship fighting monsters.