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inspired by 'quantum leap' thread.
(the last episode of which i have not yet viewed)
but i see what you tried to do there.
maybe, I can't remember
Unless you're taking the piss. In which case, carry on.
...nah, still unfinished business.
Thought Serenity tied up Firefly nicely. There's a little angling for a second series proper, but it feels final.
Who was Book really?
Who were the blue hand guys?
Oh Jean Luc, and we had such a good time together. But all good things must come to an end
At least it had a conclusion, but because I heard that they had the ending in mind in season 1, I felt it was dragged out somewhat because they kept getting renewed
that I never saw the end of American Gothic - did it have one?
I think they were hoping to be recomissioned but they weren't. So it doesn't really have an ending. (I'm not old enough to have seen it when it was first on, mind)
(as long as you're talking about the new one) but I don't reckon many other people will..
I haven't actually seen it but I've heard it's a great finale. Just haven't been able to bring myself to watch the entire run to get to it.
I saw it a while ago, but it was pretty decent. Silly, and decent.
but they take their time getting there and have a fair amount of shit in between.
Discussing buggy on an Internet forum. My life is actually going backwards.
It was dark but after seasons 3 and 4 became such a bad soap opera, season 5 was genuinely interesting and different and this felt like a great cap to it.
how they could follow on from the awesome Butch and Sundance-style last battle fade out in S5, and really don't want to know so have avoided the comics.
As were the preceding four or so seasons, a few episodes aside.
the final season was excellent.
Some very good episodes, among the best in the entire show. But then also some complete and utter bullshit. I'll happily agree that it got much, much worse from the end of season five on though.
LATE TO THE PARTY AS USUAL.
*4th features the all-time best of the Buffy eps (Hush, obvs), and is a lot better on a second/third/fourth viewing than the first time round. I think I now rate it as the 3rd best season.**
*5th is good, but not enough stand alones. The appearance of Dawn was fantastic for a first-time viewing, but the impact is obviously lost for subsequent viewings. Plus Dawn is fucking annoying.
*6th features some cracking stand alones, and again is much better on a subsequent viewing. In terms of the seasonal arc, there was a good idea there (inversion of human=good/monster=bad schema) made bad by the addiction motif.
*7th had some great ideas, plus the return of Faith, but was hard to enjoy on account of 1) Buffy's whininess; 2) Tara, who was already excruciatingly painful as a non-brain-wiped person, but even worse after she received the Gloria treatment; and 3) the continual obsession with relationships.
**this is a lie: I've never bothered trying to rank the seasons in terms of quality/enjoyment.
It was good but but there were better ones. The two with Vampire Willow come to mind as being great and pretty much any Season 2 featuring evil Angel, particularly the one where Giles kicks the shit out of him.
The finalé to Season 3 is great too. The last six episodes of season 7 are just epic. Particularly the 'previously on Buffy' from the very final episode.
but Hush is the best.
But let's not bicker about such things, and instead simply agree that Faith is far better than Buffy ever was.
I liked the character of Faith, though. She was great when she returned in Season 7.
as it did not include the maiming of Dawn.
Dawn. The Scrappy Doo of Buffy.
It just frustrated/upset me
If she does: Flashforward can count.
It's not as good as TNG obviously, but it is the 2nd best Star Trek series. Seven of Nine in the skintight costume helped
Every episode I ever saw was painfully bad.
It does drag a little in the first two seasons
When they hook up with the Borg though, it all kicks off
and there's a few good episodes, but there's a lot of averageness and I think that Voyager episode Threshold was so bad they basically erased it from history
He's the only good thing in it.
who had a YOU MUST LET ME SING clause written into his contract. Like Riker's Trumbone clause
for the episode where he's daydreaming and sings a hilarious song about Tuvok going into crazy Vulcan mode.
I hated the last episode of Voyager
Good episode and then tra da! We're back at Earth! Credits roll.
THAT'S our pay off for seven years?!
plus Seven of Nine winding up with Chakotay all of a sudden - what the hell?
That final episode lacks massively.
dinner money. now.
that's the shamelessly over emotional one set 20 years into teh future innit? It sort of does the job, would have been much better if they'd ended with the weird one at the end of season 4.
I think it's because it was built up too much for me. When I first started watching it we learned how when JMS laid out his view of the series to his producers and told them what the finalé would be their jaws dropped.
So I was expecting something spectacular. In fact it was more of an epilogue. I'm guessing in the context of "Here's my plan for the whole five seasons," it sounded audacious but after 109 episodes it ended up being a bit of a disappointing full stop.
though it kind of only needs the last five episodes or whatever of the fifth series, would probably have been actually perfect if it had ended at the end of season four. (admittedly I haven't watched it in about 10 years, it's probably gash).
I mean, there's still good stuff but it comes from a time before we saw the likes of BSG. I'm not the biggest fan of modern BSG but it's fairly understated with decent acting and aside a couple of people B5's acting is dodge. Not helped by JMS's cliché ridden scripts either.
can imagine the CGI doesn't look too clever now, either...
The DVDs suffered a bit because they'd lost the original models so while we finally got the widescreen live action stuff they had to matte the effects shots.
It's definitely the least of its issues.
good work, old men
The first series was 12 years ago. Fail, old student.
That's why I love a geek thread.
but Futurama originally had a decent ending.
Everything seems to be in order here - all the usual suspects + zero women. Good
has the most horribly contrived ending of any sci fi ever. The ancient spirits of evil are fucked off at Mumm Ra for being so lame, so they give him all their powers and tell him he has one day to sort out the Thundercats. He takes them ALL out bar Lion-O, who sort of dodges him for the rest of the day, at which point said spirits are like 'oh yeah, we realise you've done more in one day than in the preceding several years, but a deal's a deal' so they banish Mumm Ra forever, Thundercats all come back to life, everything wrapped up in 20mins. COOL RANT HUH?
so yeah this is NOT a popular opinion but correct.
Any number of anime sci-fi series do. For that matter like 80% of all GENUINE SCIENCE FICTION in cinema and TV is japanese and animated. There are very few true SF works in live action.
talking about the original weirdness ending (fuck, we don't have any money left for animation, let's do a slideshow of shinji's life as he is absorbed into a planetwide superbeing or something) or the revised one (FUCK YEAH LOOK AT THESE FUCKING ROBOTS TEARING EACH OTHER TO SHREEEEDS).
I can sort of see where they were coming from with the old one but, well, it didn't really work. The film version: brilliant, thoughtful, horrifying.
that second movie... the first time i watched it I felt my grip on reality had been shaken considerably
writhes and contorts its flesh into a towering pillar of matter, with shinji atop it, his eyes bulging, whispering to himself 'father, father, father'
Unit 00 and 02 stand at its base; they are transforming into two great fleshy spheres, and we are shown various images, interspersed with strobe lighting, of the many abuses Rei and Asuka have suffered over the years at the hands of unhappy men.
shinji begins to scream again as a series of shining glyphs and symbols (picked scattershot from religons of choice) appears in the sky and he cranes his head upwards as the LCL from units 00 and 02 drain into the fleshy pillar, up through the shaft, and out, using shinji's own mouth as a spout.
in the final scene shinji is on a beach looking at pictures of fan-drawn hentai images of Ritsuko, Misato, Rei and Asuka on a laptop. he moans, and as we see the force of his ejaculate hit the screen 'fly me to the moon' begins to play
just wiki'd it, apparently the next movie isn't going to be out until autumn 2012 :(
(that may be because they're going to release the last two as a double bill, though...)
the film SO AMAZING
possibly because it's less total bastard cynical than the film one.
and for sheer audacity and experimentation with the format it's pretty amazing.
now that we've seen the alternate interpretation of it in the film. I know it's a source of contention, but I think they fit together fine (maybe; it's been a while), with the series ending at shinji accepting instrumentality, and the film showing him to go on and change his mind.
Still, what i would give in the new one for a shot of pen-pen sitting at home, looking panicked, then turning into liquid
although the slightly lame futurism of Epitaph 2 let down the most absurdly, brilliantly exposition-packed single season of TV I can remember. I loved how recklessly and brutally they started dispatching the story once the axe was about to fall on the series. It may be hugely flawed, but I enjoyed watching Dollhouse more than almost any other serialised TV drama I can remember.
ie the end of the Sylvester McCoy era. Not the greatest period in Who history but the final episode of "Survival" contains a great speech from the Doctor which sums up the whole show, old and new. Read the following in Tennant's voice and substitute "Rose" for "Ace".
"There are worlds out there where the sky is burning, and the sea's asleep, and the rivers dream. People made of smoke, and cities made of song. Somewhere there's danger, somewhere there’s injustice, and somewhere else the tea's getting cold. Come on, Ace — we’ve got work to do!"
But then they commissioned that god awful fifth series.
The final final was good, but yeah, played way too hard on the heart strings
the final final was originally shot as the last episode of season 4 (hence why Ivanova is in it), but when they got the renewal deal from TNT they hastily put together that one with all the snapshots of future time.
Sanchez falls in love with a woman who turned into brocolli and died. What could possibly be more final than that?
Here, let me cut your pork pie.
theres nothing wrong with a predictable ending.
I sobbed for days when I watched that as a kid
amazing in the kind of 50's hard SF meets topgun with boobies of the original... but still great. Also took me more than half the series before i realised 'Oh ok so this IS actually a sequel... WOW' and still a ;__; ending