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Anyone suffered or know anyone suffering from this? Any coping techniques?
I think my own medication plan of lots of booze and two one-a- night Nytols was far more effective. I'm practically a doctor.
but I'm going to see if these tackle that eventually too
that way you'll get all the horrid stuff out the way in the daytime, AND get money! :)
I usually pair the double dose of Nytol with the Citalopram. It proper zonked my out last night....I had a quiet 'buzz on' while watching Family Guy.
Fear and Lovely in my Living Room, by Liam E. Lonergan
If I don't have my double dose of Nytol I actually don't know how I'd have gotten through this summer. I'm sure my kindeys are failing and my stomach erupting in a mass of ulcers and such but yeah, I'm happy with this compromise.
Might go on them again. They made me feel so intense.
I had an anxiety 'issue' last year which got quite bad, I rarely left the house. I'm not sure why it happend but I suddenly was unable to get on trains/public transport without having an panic attack and having to get off. And I could NEVER go into London, eve though I have been going to London for various reasons since I was about 15.
It was bad for a few months and then I decided to just force myself into London, alone, and go on trains for one day a month. It was horrible at first and I suffered a few attacks but the more I faced it, the less the attacks got and now I get the train every day.
I'd advise you to speak to a Doctor if its extreme, as mine was quite mild in comparison to other peoples, but try other methods first before calming drugs.
True but when I was dealing with this, everyone was just like 'oh don't be so silly'
People just don't understand :'(
Well, I was always very shy, but I don't know at what point you can class that as a clinical thing.
Your method seems very proactive and successful though. Kudos.
I always feel calmer and happier on those. Also, if you can get a prescription for something, mix them with the drink and drugs. Im assuming the benefit wil be doubled
Doing things that are 'safe' or comforting i.e. talking to a friend you know will calm you down/just sit with you so that you feel safe.
Regulating your breathing and trying to 'switch off' your brain.
Reassuring yourself that nothing bad is going to happen.
I don't know really, different things work for different people, and I'm not sure this advice is going to be any good for you. Try to stay away from triggerring factors like alcohol, drugs etc. It's a really hard thing to have to deal with, and there's no shame in getting a little help from your doctor. Hope things sort themselves out x
These are the sort of comments I hear regularly...but, personally, I don't find them helpful.
with a shotgun to the face - wouldnt prescribe that though, would you?
different things work for different people. Obviously it's not possible to think clearly about what's going to make you feel better in the middle of a panic attack, but sometimes doing these things when you're feeling anxious can stop it from escalating into a full blown panic attack.
Different things work for different people. When you're in the midst of a full blown panic attack, you can't see/think clearly. But doing things like this when you're feeling anxious can sometimes help to stop it escalating to that stage.
it doesn't do anything to stop the emotional response to anxiety but does slow down the biochemical response which causes the symptoms (for me its loss of appetite, nausea and eventually vomiting). Taking it just about gives me the breathing room so that i can control myself emotionally but tbh if you're not addressing the causes of the anxiety through counseling or self help programs its not likely to go away.
The only other advice i can offer is for her to read forums and see what other anxiety sufferers are going through, helped me enormously to know that i wasn't alone. Unfortunately unless you've experienced it yourself you can't really relate
I havn't really felt the benefits yet....but that's probably what the doctor will prescribe.
which is a no-no. I came off it after a week and did yoga instead and my panic attacks stopped (I'm not suggesting you come off it btw- but not all meds are right for everybody and you should see your GP again if you don't think these are working for you.)
I get a sort of 'tracing paper outline' of sexual arousal... but that leads to sleep rather than 'wham-bam-thank-you-maam'
(or, in micky_w's case 'wham-bam-thank--ohmysweetachingjesus...you've just vomited all over my tidy sheets')
I'm kind of impatient like that anyway, so it was not a good mix and made me feel kind of depressed (which I wasn't to begin with.) And all after just one week- it made me question what the hell else they were doing to me, and so I flushed them down the loo whilst cackling, and my ability to function properly was back within a few days.
and I know plenty of people who are absolutely fine on them, and I'd never encourage anybody to come off meds without first speaking to their doctor.)
don't let people make you feel like you're inconveniencing them by having these problems
try to live a good lifestyle
always wear headphones on public transport
consider learning to use CBT techniques to think yourself out of a hole - though be aware that the road to NHS mental health services is long and arduous. Up to you
if there's something in particular that is setting you off, eg. work, people, places, thing about how you might long term be able to make your life less stressful and more to your liking
^ my two cents
My girlfriend works in mental health and, unfortunately, it does seem like a horrendous uphill struggle to get any kind of councelling on the NHS which is, of course, massively counterproductive for people who are in a state which would hinder that process even if it were simpler. Unfortunately, step one tends to be to have to go through your GP who in my experience have almost always been worse than useless when it comes to anything to do with mental health. Try calling NHS Direct first, they've always been much easier to deal with and usually well informed, and will be able to help you with a step-by-step guide to what to do next. It's best to act as soon as you realise something is wrong, as inaction just exacerbates and ingrains negative feelings and behaviours.
It's a close family member. It seems really bad, she's crying and hitting herself. She keeps dwelling on small things like a horrible dress she wore
She sounds quite poorly :(
just be really really nice basically. then you can talk about what other help there is.
massive sympathies . i've been in a similar situation on-and-off for the past couple of years and i know it can be really hard on the people around as well.
absolutely what darwindude said. if you live with them, try and make it as stress-free enviroment as possible. to some extent, i found it was helpful to try and keep the person busy sometimes. playing board-games/table-tennis etc. maybe that wouldn't work in your situation.
there *are* options there like medication, counselling, cbt, group-therapy etc. and when it happened to him, my brother did eventually get all those on the nhs so don't give up/keep encouraging her. i'd encourage her to see a doctor asap...and i *think* it is possible to someone to accompany her if she wanted, and make sure the doctor isn't unhelpful etc. but i could be wrong on that.
if you want to talk to anyone about it/just have a space to vent...feel free to pm/email me
I eventually managed to find really lovely one, as I was having panic attacks about 5 times a day, in lectures and at home and it was affecting uni work and my day to day life as I started freaking out massively in social situations. I had CBT and citalopram- one as a practical method and the citalopram to help me not flip out in final year at uni. it's hard to make CBT work, as working through your thoughts/ actions in terms of processes IS strange, but sort of helps. If you want, drop me a PM :)
but is it actually not just booze and would i be better off with some kind of prescribed drugs?
The worst is definitely over but it really is a long, hard road. My advice is to stop/moderate your alcohol, nicotine, drug, caffeine consumption and start exercising. When I've been at my worst i've found a brisk walk is the best thing for me. I now make sure I exercise 3 times a week. Even if it's just a placebo I think it's important to find something (anything!) to act as a relief/distraction. It could be crosswords, playing guitar, crocheting, just make it something you enjoy.
It's an enormous step that you know about it, it's so much better to have it out in the open. I found I was incredibly conscious of people finding out I was suffering and this made things even worse. Best wishes & good vibes etc
For the advice and stuff.
She has been feeling like this for the last few months, but i thought it was just her being over-sensitive. But it seems to be more serious than that. Got a GP appointment on Thursday, it's just about trying to keep her calm till then. Already better today that she was yesterday though, so small steps!
Perhaps I have it? maybe its what causes my posting mania when Im all negative and stuff? I dunno
Anxiety disorders can cause both psychological and physical symptoms.
If you have an anxiety disorder, your main symptom will be feeling anxious. However, this can lead to other psychological symptoms such as:
sleeping difficulties (insomnia)
feeling tired being irritable or quick to get angry
being unable to concentrate a fear that you're 'going mad' feeling out of control of your actions,
or detached from your surroundings
Uh oh! I have all of those.
Its the confusion which really gets me though, when she gets really confused. Heartbreaking really.
Doing this should ALWAYS be the default action before turning to meds or counselling.
Look at your diet. This has a massive massive effect on your wellbeing.
Exercise at least three times a week. Humans HAVE to exercise. The rewards are immense, but people strangely tend to ignore this concept.
Fine tune your mental state. Attend some meditation classes at your local Buddhist centre. Meditation is a wonderful thing you can do and it hugely improves your state of mind.
Sort your life out. This isn't a difficult task. Just catch up on all your admin, tidy your house, wash your clothes have a shave get a haircut buy some new clothes run every errand you can think of and maintain this standard of living.
It amazes me how many of my friends who are often down or anxious and see themselves as having a problem pay no attention to any of the above. I support them the best I can at all times but this really really irritates me.