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Fucking hard work if you are not a girl or willing to be tickled for discounted rent.
in london the problem at the mo is just the demand being so much bigger than the supply. rents are rocketing. there was a piece in the evening standard recently that said that rent in greenwich had gone up by 43% in the last year. not sure how they worked that out but still...
the problem i found while looking for somewhere to live was just the price. shitloads of adverts for places that were £110+ a week but i was determined to spend less than £100/week. i found somewhere eventually tho, got really lucky.
The problem is i'm looking from London and wont have a job immediately, which people don't really seem to like. Although have a few months rent saved.
it's a jip, but possibly your only option.
Maybe just find a 2 month sublet paid up front and hope to get a job in that time in order to be able to find somewhere permanent or move to the other side of the country if not and try again.
they're not gonna know until you get there, and then it'll be too late, bwahahaha.
have you offered to skype with potential new flatmates? that's what i did when looking for a flatshare abroad. means you can sort of get to know each other and see the flat via skype.
found out my old flat - 4 bed flat in a good location (NW1, nr Camden Square) but not without problems (laughably shit victorian conversion [eleven people across three flats in a four-story house!], damp) is going up from £480/week to £590/week, or roughly £520 each a month to well over £600. compare that to five years ago, i had a large studio flat (with separate kitchen and a bathroom big enough for an actual bath) just up the road for £650 a month, yet now that will just about get me a room in a houseshare. buh?
it's also just simple economics :(
that's why i'm staying put. i love the flat i'm in, and got lucky with a good deal when i moved here. the deposit was only £200 and if i moved to a similarly nice house, similar room, i think i'd be paying 25% more than what i'm paying here, easily. and all my bills are included which is a real lifesaver.
obviously there is a supply and demand aspect to it, but the property market, particularly in London, is heavily affected by both confidence and expectations. people expect to pay a lot of rent in London, because London Is Expensive. right now they expect to pay a lot more rent, because for the last 12-18 months the media has made A Big Deal about how people can't get mortgages, and so are renting for longer and increasing the strain on the rental market.
now, i have no doubt that this is true - to an extent. but the constant parrot-esque repeating of it has made it part of the accepted London Is Expensive landscape, and provided landlords/agents with an excuse to squeeze more money out of tenants for their properties. i can't imagine there's much of an actual increase in demand - are more people moving to London right now? has building of new properties slowed down? i doubt either of this is true, and, surely, if the sales market is so poor right now because of a credit squeeze, would that not just put more properties into the supposedly booming rental market, thus cooling the upward trend?
i'm sortof all over the place with what I'm putting across here, but as long as there is a general consensus, a perception that London Is Expensive, there will always be a base rate that people will be willing to pay to live there, largely irregardless of supply or demand.
(this is also why Cameron's bluster about socially cleansing expensive parts of inner London of The Great Unworked will do next to or utterly nothing to the rental market for those in it.)
but there are still loads of massive new projects going ahead there (first residential buildings are now going up at King's Cross Central, and all the new stuff in Stratford is proceeding, Elephant and Castle is still ongoing etc). The London property market didn't really take any kind of a beating compared to the rest of the country in recent years.
what i basically meant was that
demand > supply = rents go up
1. there is always enormous demand in london
2. the rental market in london moves faster than anywhere else
3. more people looking to rent than before
these all increase demand
ignore the subject line that post.
basically london rents are going to keep going up forever unless the price of transport comes down (so people can afford to live further out) or lots of houses get built (not enough housing has been built for decades)
i think we essentially agree but i originally simplified things to the point where i was being inaccurate
The over-dominant financial industry and the bonus culture also means that lots of the new accommodation is:
- bought as an investment property and left empty.
- bought as a buy to let, restricting the availability of places for purchase.
- bought as weekday accommodation for city workers who have other houses out in the country.
All of which leads to a situation where (I think) about 75% of all new properties in London are actually bought by people who will either not be living in them, or will be living in them part-time.
my original point of there not being enough housing for people who actually need it is right. it's just it's not the whole story...
was not looking forward to moving up after I graduated until I saw the beautiful flat Richard is sharing with one other person for £500 before bills. Okay so the nearest tube is Elephant but the road itself is really nice.
been looking for many weeks now in London, and its shit.
p.s. if anyone has a room in north london, let me know.
not sure how much the rent is gonna be, rent might go up for the new person what with all utility bills going up. so it might be as much as £600/month. i don't wanna start advertising it before i know!
whenever we do look for people i'll be putting an ad up here.
this is in kilburn.
but ideally looking for somewhere close(ish) to old st (where work is).
as it happens, i also work next to old st station. if you can pay that amount you'll be able to find something closer to work easily enough tho.
will check it out when you post it up
has anyone here ever actually heard of someone 'finding love' via some hot babe taking a room in their flat?
Although I know someone who has been going out with someone for 5/6 years through meeting when moving into houseshare.
such a hassle. Might just commute instead.
lets buddy up
but I'm working at the Royal Free, so somewhere north/on northern line seems sensible. suggestions?
it's right next to hampstead heath station so you can live anywhere north and get the overground there as well.
the overground is awesome.
I always forget about the overground. Presumably it's not too busy either? I've been getting central then northern to Belsize park; not fun.
and I'm absolutely amazed at how expensive everything is compared to last year when I was looking for my own place.
It seems to be completely impossible to find anywhere in N1/E1/E2 for less than £370 a week, even if it's in a pretty scummy building...
Pretty pretty depressing.
I can get to Shoreditch/Dalston/Whitechapel in 20 mins on the East London line
Have you tried posting an ad on bonsoni.com??