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Thats enough for one pi, right?
but he's an insufferable bell-end so...
Marbles is a bell-end.
After pleading guilty to the offences last week, the part-time comic told reporters, "I would just like to say this has been the most humble day of my life", mimicking Mr Murdoch's statement to the MPs.
But being rational he attacked a man in his eighties. Admittedly in a non-violent fashion but he still attacked a man in his eighties. I think 6 weeks is reasonable.
but he should have got off with a slap on the wrist/community service. But he threw it at an 80 year old. An 80 year old who happens to not be very nice, but an old man none the less, and that seems to me to be fair cause for a month and a half in prison in which to consider what he is doing with his life.
I think it should have been community service. A custodial sentence seems like such a waste of money for things like this.
vunerability that the age confers. The same could be said of a very young person or someone with a physical disability. The crime should be the same, but the sentence should reflect the situation.
I might well agree if we were talking about pushing an old man over in the street vs pusing down a twentysomething - the fall would hurt the old man a lot more. But chucking a bit of foam on his jacket isn't quite the same.
Murdoch seemed a bit out of it at times, which would be not unheard of for someone his age. anyway, Murdoch, or anyone else, could not have known that the random man charging at him does not have a gun/knife/bomb. It would have been theoretically possible, and something this guy should've considered, that Murdoch might have dropped dead of heart attack,fright, whatever.
and Im not going to cry any spilt milk over him co-incidentally dropping, not when there are many many innocents needlessly dying (more possibly due to the general hatred and misunderstanding in the world that his media methods have helped to increase, admitedly that was not perhaps his aim, but .....he is/was a very very powerful man who has never played soft, just because he is old you cannot regard him as having regained some innocence, he is merely frailer.......its a wrong analagy, but it still serves.....at the end hitlers power was very frail compared to his hayday, doesnt make him not deserving of hatred, or people wanting karma to come back at him.
The flan flinger is of course stupid cos it has distracted from the serious sober procedures...in fact i wouldnt be suprised if murdoch himself had orchestrated the whole thing.
Doing this to an 80 year old man, whose vision is perhaps not great or who was more frail or vulnerable to shock than somebody younger and stronger is a whole different level of wrong than doing this to a 39 year old.
murdoch has many many people who will robustly look after him, most 80 year olds do not.
Also Murdoch seems to have a rather (too - for his age) athletic wife, he may be frail but apparently it is not inappropriate for him to mix it with people half his age. He obviously doesnt think so, and HE is used to making the rules that his life is run by.
Deng met Rupert Murdoch in Hong Kong in 1997 when she was 29 years old and Murdoch was 66.
gross age, but also to do with the idea that an 80 yr old attacked on the street or on an estate needs to be protected by deterent, these sort of 80 yr olds will feel frightened to go out or sit in their homoe on their own, it could significantly affect the rest of their lives.....if they suffer a bad fall and hurt their leg then it is a major problem for them to get shopping or get things done, etc.......no such problems for murdoch....he may be old and frail looking but he has a robust exoskeleton made of wealth and power/influence.
I really dont care what happens to him or if he suffers misfortune....i wouldnt go out of my way to hurt or attack him as he is not longer holding the reins of that which is bad, so to attack him is to attack the name only, which has long been the mistake from those who wish things to be done in a better way.
If you sprayed shaving foam on a non-famous old man in the street, would you expect to get six weeks in prison?
If I was a dick, I'd deserve whatever I got.
I'm not saying it's a good thing to do. But there are a lot of crimes that I don't think merit custodial sentences, and this is one of them.
and got away scot-free
To be fair we had paid to see the Chuckle Brothers in a live setting, but I'm pretty sure my dad would have prosecuted to the full extent of the law if given the chance. He's still fuming about it a decade and a half later.
Missed a trick, there
Hence my point to Ho_Fo that this was at least in part based on mdeia attention.
but i think that you have hit the nail on the head there, the guy was interupting and by default dissing the procedure and professionalism and offices of all that were there, so i guess that is the main reason for the large sentence.....note to everyone....if you are going to do a crime, make sure its not against authority.
against all of us, and although i would normally take that line with a pinch of salt, I have to admit that I much rather wish that there was no interuption or distraction by shaving foam pies......and from the sound of it you guys all feel the same, so i guess the flinger has gone to chokey for contempt of us all, so that is OK. :D
But one factor that may have been taken into account in this case (in adddition to the age and health of the victim) was the solemnity of the proceedings which were disrupted by these actions (it might not be contempt of court as such, but it is certainly a contempt for due process of law and judges HATE all that).
Who knows though- even putting aside the fact that it was a solemn and stressful scene which was disrupted- a custard pie in the face of a random octogenarian in the street has the very real capacity to cause that old person to fear for their safety/ their life, if only for a short period of time until they realised it was just Hilarious Japes. It could cause very real physical and psychological issues in a vulnerable person, and so I wouldn't underestimate the sentence somebody would get for that alone, whatever the fame or fortune of the victim.
-distracted media from a serious, big story
-made Murdoch look like a victim and his wife the People's Princess.
-he attacked an 80-year-old man!
-acted like a dick afterwards, including that comment he made
-for being a part-time comedian and blogger who, to my prejudiced rage, embodies the worst of both and of activists, in the sense that he seems to serve his own ego and desire for publicity rather than the cause or the political point he is supposed to put forward.
who is to be, how you say "To getting the cream in theface"? a lot now for a while RITE?
His career never really took off.
Their careers never really landed.
I still don't think that assaulting an octogenerian is acceptable in any circumstances (bar the very unlikely event of it being self-defence).
because I worried about women being infantry, due to the fact it would force some men to revise their evaluation of women as being 'non-combatants' (now I know its bad to hurt anyone, but you are trying to establish that there is a degree here......that not all things are equal (although murdoch certainly cannot be considered a non combatant in the past)
humans to reconcile (I find it messy and difficult to do....of course physical frailty invokes us to imbibe the frailness as a sort of innocence (since they appear harmless) but one must remember that inside the darlek shell is a very frail soft squidgy body, entirely frail and fragile.
Having said that, I would feel the same way as you talk, irl, my body goes into this auto ooh mind the old person, treat them gently mode, its entirely thoughtless process, it must be instinctive/animal
human animal instinct into special legislation, to protect the elderly more.
I have revised my opinion to giving a shit and feeling glad he's got some jail time, though it doesn't sound like it really can do anything to help now.
Whilst I think he's a dictionary definition fannyballs for doing this, I don't think the fact that he committed his crime at an inopportune moment for British democracy should be a sentencing consideration.
http://drownedinsound.com/community/boards/social/4276114 another thread about sentencing stuff.
And short prison sentenc... must refrain from lengthy argument.