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By Colin Andrews
January 5, 2010.
"I invented the term 'Crop Circle' during the 1980s and hence
was responsible for the term eventually entering the Oxford
Dictionary in 1990. This used to be referenced on the 'crop
circle' page at Wikipedia until one day last year (2009) it
suddenly disappeared along with other important historical
facts" I attempted to correct these and was told if I continued I
would be banned.
Colin Andrews - Crop Circles
Drownedinsound is the best music message board in the internet world, and we don't want anyone bad mouthing it, especially public figures who reguarly use socal media and who have many followers & fans.
you lot killed it.
you should ask kik/hulkyhogan, who started the thread, and requested it was deleted, why it was removed. but to paraphrase, it makes DiS look horrid to outsiders, and the thread had begun to spread as an example of what DiS is like.
josie long is a human being, a nice human being, who happens to do a show on one of the bbc's radio stations, and much like most of us here, likes music like Les Savy Fav and stuff.
If you read this thread carefully, it does kind of suggest that someone (ANDREW COLLINS??) is holding a gun to sean's head, who in turn is holding one to mits' head. But what do I know, I thought that thread was about Josie D'Arby.
I was just seeing if it was actually deleted.
He bitched about this site on twitter calling us sexist and facist.
Sean removed the thread, Collins removed that specific tweet.
All happy families now :)
he didn't reply to my tweet.
maybe people should tweet him links to threads that are greatest exhibits of DiS?
What is there to hate?
Marcofella in the Metro
- I don't have twitter
- the greatest exhibits of DiS involve people typing SOAWJO repeatedly, saying Timing! and Dental Plan! a lot, and freeing the sceptre of Kahir-Danoth from the dread beast of Shardrigo-della-bono so Holly Golightly will teach us how to use the custard cushion. They might make it seem a bit clique-y.
He did a radio show and podcast with Richard Herring
I don't know who Richard Herring is, either.
I don't know what else to say :/
I once sent him some of my writing...he said it was abit ''spermy''
:D Still. Nice of him to reply.
Because if Richard Herring said your writing is too spermy... fucking hell
Because you're currently making me feel like I'm a regular subscriber of Heat magazine.
He's quite good at them. The internet, less so.
(I believe this is the standard line in these situations?)
but it's a shame everyone decides to pay so much attention to the attention seeking bellends.
GOOD WORK VIRGINS.
Sean is just busy putting together his "music to play whilst deleting posts" spotify playlist, but when he's done he'll be back with a vengeance. What do YOU listen to whilst clearing your webspace of potentially libellous defamation?
everyone else either said they didn't like her stand up, or they did. Then andrew came in saying ridiculous things and we made fun of him, but not in a vitriolic way particularly. One guy called him a twat, that was it.
He then called him a twat again and AC got all huffy.
THIS IS AN ABSOLUTE OUTRAGE AND NOT WHY MY GRANDAD FOUGHT THE GERMANS! YOU ARE A BUNCH OF PEN PUSHING NUMPTIES!
Go and enjoy the sunshine yo'
90% of any 'defamatory' comments were simply pointing out the usual, tired observations about Ms Long, or referencing other threads and discussions.
This is more 'fascistic' than anything i've read, basically Sean is saying that Josie Long is impervious to criticism because she likes The Indie Music.
As for calling AC a 'double twat'; a quick purge on the internet suggests Josie's been happy to use that term to describe other 'nice human beings' from the world of celebrity...
Sean was just building up the courage to tweet josie long asking her to do a "takeover week" on dis then the usual indie LAAAAAAAADS spoiled it for him by being LAAAAAAADS but obviously its fine being a LAAAAAAAAD if youre being chauvinist then saying OTHER PEOPLE AREN'T CHAUVINIST COS THEY THINK THEY'RE SO INDIE BUT THEY'RE NOT EVEN LAAAAAAD?
Or was he worried that andrew collins and the twitter bunch were going to twitter about it and it was going to be RE TWITTED all over the place oh my god
....but I've rubbed my face in it twice.
This is an english affair.
Andrew is a broadcaster and journalist.
he *is* a dick tbf
but not the full thread
my shit-stirring hat wants to point out all the other josie long threads have been deleted too. but i realise i don't really care (and i doubt anyone else will) they were real turgid shit.
when the website gets a redesign do you reckon you could put a filter on that automatically deletes any thread that any DiSer makes about any female celebrity?
or just delete DiS...might be easier
ok but if you do you must not mention anything about her ample bosom.
I could write the predictable 'I'm not going to sleep with you, Andrew'
someone tell wrightylew
hey Cronin would you rather be yourself but a sexist Nazi and just go about life doing yr stuff OR be a sexy Nazi a la
but have this ladies little 'issue'
Apart from being hilarious, she still had 20 mins of her set left to do, but had to get off stage cos there was another show on soon after. So she led us all around the corner, like some sort of indie comedy pied-piper and did the rest of the show standing on a table in a pub beer garden.
As oneforghost said, all Josie Long threads get filled with shit by spiteful no-dick guys and spiteful threatened women (can't think of other reasons for piling on the hate). So fair play if sean has decided to purge, err, HIS SITE of the nasty bullshit that some of the whiney fucks on here can't stop themselves from posting on, err, HIS SITE.
The cached thread might not be the full thing, but the crap had already begun to flow. Fair play to kik if it was him that prompted the pulling of his (inevitably shit) thread.
'i will say that the idea of someone standing on a table in a pub garden telling jokes makes me cringe!'
just instantly think: QI, glasses, guardian, regular Glasto-goer, 'dabbles' in weed every few weekends etc.
i love the idea that you're presenting ^this as some sort of biting insult.
more of an insightful and accurate stereotype.
you're being a silly goose
the best live acts or performances are generally ones where the performer expresses themselves so clearly that the audience feels a personal connection with them, not just their music.
You're talking crap but i guess you're probably trolling or something so nevermind.
who whips out a guitar and starts strumming away badly as if he's improving the atmosphere.
But the instance you're picking on (josie on table) was a case where it was following on from a paid for gig, where she blurted out the idea whilst on stage, and was clearly a bit bashful that she'd come out with the idea, and then the crown egged her on. They could've walked away. But they didn't. The vast majority of the crowd followed her around the corner and gladly listened to her finish her act.
Imagine having the gall to display your talent to some friends? How awful! What a show off!
Wish I had a talent to show off.
Nope. You're conveniently ignoring the existence of all character comedians ever. And the fact many many comedians create an exaggerated version of themselves, which is basically a character in itself.
You've said that ``the whole point of 'stand-up' is based around how much of yourself is that person,`` but then claimed that ``the joke is that it's not them``.
So... it's them.... but it's also not them? Go on...
see my point re: characters.
and you underestimate the focus that plenty of musicians get on them as a person, too.
Very few attempt that and end up looking good.
i hope you're happy with what you've said.
FUCK ME LIKE YOU FUCKED MY COUNTRY!
just think of the ego you'd get if you didn't take things so seriously and made all of us laugh every now and then.
you drag it through the fire...and the scorched remains are left to fry. You are, ultimately, pointless.
What job is it?
I quite like the 14 hour nightshifts.
Most actualities, however...
and it sounds like I probably wouldn't care either.
comedians (in general) are seen as being fair game for vicious personal attacks because
a) they spend a lot of time taking the piss out of other people
b) they affect an air of superiority, a positive detachment that allows them to comment on the world
i'm not especially familiar with Josie Long, so maybe these don't apply. But from what i've seen, she's pretty cack
HERE WE GO.
opinions eh? bloody opinions.
a) cos her whole act is basically based around being positive, and looking for the good in stuff.
b) cos she's also pretty humble about being fallible, and rather than doing the detachment thing she repeatedly encourages people to give stuff a go and get stuck in.
and that is why all the bitching and whining that seeps about her out on here whenever her name is mentioned makes the person doing the bitching look roughly as classy as a soldier kicking a puppy.
also, a large wedge of negative comments are that her appearance isn't conventially attractive, and/or that she's some sort of overly twee try hard (THE IRONING).
fair enough if her comedy style doesn't appeal, but there's always a bunch of people that make no mention of her ability to do her job and just show themselves up to be spiteful no-dick guys or spiteful threatened women.
for someone who boasts about reading "the indie", doesn't like football and makes it his mission to fight the feminist corner in internet grudge-matches, you don't exactly strike me as some 12-inch Mandingo, with all due respect.
for someone who boasts about shabs and bants, and makes it his mission to create an just for the lulz persona, you don't exactly strike me as someone who can take as good as they give, with all due respect.
you just have to admit you haven't got a good comeback and abandon reply.
* queue lame, laboured reply
you just have to admit you some digs just weren't worth being original about. and that the unoriginal comeback definitely wasn't worth commenting on.
makes it his mission to create an just
" that she's some sort of overly twee try hard (THE IRONING)."
this place has far more anti-twee/negative/moany/whatever people than twee t mobile stereotypes people still somehow paint DiS users as being
the other 90% of DiS is happy in it's tweeness.
about 5 people tops said they didn't like her act. 2 of them were out of order. You're turning this into some sort of crusade 4 josie against people that don't actually exist.
just the cache of it. but i've read loads of previous josie freds.
but.... this isn't particularly about josie or that thread though. it's about haters hatin' genrally. and spreading bad vibes for sod all reason. no attempt at a comedic angle, or whatever. just straight up nastiness. and there are more than 5 people tops who do that.
Between saying 'Josie Long is an unfunny twunt' and saying someone like Gary Neville is a rat-faced shitball?
There have been countless celebs on DiS who have come under fire, and many whom other social board users like. Stewart Lee got called a twat, and managed to find some good humour in it.
they're both lame.
but i'm not sure that's the best comparison/example. i don't recall many threads explicitly based around gary neville's footballing ability (or lack thereof) that were inevitably peppered with those kinds of insults.
if stewrat lee managed to find some good humour in folk having a go then power to him. but just because he can/did, doesn't mean everyone else should be expected to.
someone said "You know what fellows, I find the comedy of Josie Long to not really be to my taste" and so sean deleted the entire area
people go beyond that. every. single. time.
and you know it. kik knew it, too, when he anticipated the way the thread would go in the OP.
.'Plus, she's a bit overweight, not the best looking, and seems like a bit of a nob.'.
completely fair enough then.
a more accurate comparison would be if a load of people chucked into a thread about gary neville saying things like 'oh he's not that good-looking is he?' 'much rather give jack wilshere a sponge-bath' etc.
I'm sure Josie has a lot of detractors here and on the internet, but she's got a lot of love too...
We have been far more 'below the belt' with eachother! Calling Andrew Collins was my way of inducting him.
I'm sure there are other forums where you can express your important opinions without censorship
does he just spend his time going round forums arguing with people who don't like him. he must be a busy man.
It's like having Broad come in at number 9. But if Broad was Tendulkar. Or, y'know, a talking mole.
Just like Broad then.
That's gotta be a record
She's the girl he loved and forgot, until one day events beyond their control brought them back together. Starring Tom Cruise and Reese Witherspoon, with Danny DeVito's voice as the parrot.
That parrot's got an unexpectedly blue streak.
...say crap on the internet due to anonymity that they would never say in real life as they would be faced with a real human being who they could potentially seriously upset or get their head kicked in.
I know I'm stating the obvious here but I think it is worth repeating as I fear this sort of mentality is increasingly seeping into the mindset of people and affects their actions away from the internet.
This 'bitchy' culture is rife.
And I'm certainly guilty of it at times - on here and in real life.
whether you like josie long or not. i happen to think she's alright.
but anyways, let's all move on eh?
Google cache? what was the title
You really didn't miss much.
does not seem to be cached anyway.
seems like it's now dropped off of google's radar.
dont try and make out like theres some great injustice and its all about free speech. Really some people just wanted to slag someone off cos they were bored and are now pissed they cant.
i mean, technically, i could have left the thread up and individuals could have been sued.
if it was just about her presenting style and not about her appearance and sexual orientation (not sure how either is relevant to radio presenting) then the thread would still be here.
i don't want to delete any threads, ever but sometimes things spread to audiences who don't get the general nuance of these boards :)
you lot get away with a lot, which, technically could get you and/or me, sued.
i'm sure he'll be disgusted to hear
Are both lovely. Anyone who picked on them i will take to a car park and we will commence queensbury rules .... Good day sir, I SAID GOOD DAY!
dry your eyes mate, and fix the site while your at it.