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probably for the best
"why don't they just not be racist?"
it would make everything so much better
so please please please tell me if i am being racist. would be, like, really quite embarrassing to find i'd been going around being racist this whole time.
Racist test from Extras
You've only been a bit racist.
Like, racism is shitty but it's not too hard to understand the psychology of people who are threatened by extreme cultural difference. Anti-semitism, though, just baffles me. Why on earth would people be afraid of Jews?
I mean none of the stereotypes about Jews hold true - any more than in the general population (plenty of pushy, grabby, snobby, money-oriented, loudmouthed, exclusivist goys around) - Israel is a red herring (plenty of non-Zionist Jews around, and anyway only a complete fuckwit would confuse the crimes of the state of Israel with Jews en masse), and so what if Jews are running the entertainment industry or Hollywood or whatever? they're doing a very good job as far as I can see.
So take all that away, and you're left with the Protocols and poisoned wells and global conspiracies of Jewish bankers and other utterly insane conspiracy theories.
So, by all means play devil's advocate and tell me what's to understand?
do hold true?
At the risk of seeming to present an apologia for anti-semitism, I would say that it's not based so much in some revulsion towards putatively Jewish traits, but rather in a long history, part of which includes what some people consider to be the pretty significant event of some guy being strung up to die a couple of thousand years ago.
On the surface, anti-semitism is unlike racism insofar as the stereotypes have their origin in the prejudice, rather than the prejudice being a response to the stereotypes. I say 'on the surface', because the truth is that anti-semitism is, in this respect, actually the same as racism: racial prejudice is no more based on stereotypes than anti-semitism. In both cases, the prejudice does not respond to stereotypes but rather produces them. That's why 'none of the stereotypes about Jews hold true', just as none of the stereotypes about [insert your preferred/despised race] hold true.
but back to my original point: if someone is freaked out by a person from a completely different culture, where all the social cues and norms are just totally unfamiliar, it's tragic and stupid but understandable in a way. Jews however just don't seem that different to me (as a while middle class male educated etc etc etc), so I don't understand why people perceive them as such.
historical stupidity which becomes ingrained and embellished.
some themes are related and others are just complementary.
1) stupid christianity in some parts of europe liked finding 'non christians' whom to prosecute, well the jews made an obvious choice, non christian, with roots that were different and a group who clearly identified themslves, plus they were the people who killed jesus (a jew)
2) In many parts of europe jews were forbidden certain things, like owning land and certain educated or adminmistrative positions, one of the few trades open to them was money lending. Which gave rise to the hated depictation of the jews being money grabbing.
3) satirists and cartoonists and painters who wanted to ingratiate themselves with authorities that just played to the mob for popularity found a good line in depicting jews with exagerated features and sometimes just as out and out scary monsters, myths of jews changing appearance and eating babies and the such circulated around, and this did little problem to the authorities as it would dilute fear and anger that might otherwise be directed at them for not getting things right.
No it served a purpose to have a scapegoat.
Pogroms became a not uncommon feature of germany, poland, other eastern europe and russia, hitlers ploy was merely to capitalise on already present national hatreds.
But the thing is that they did circulate a fear about jews
the UK doesnt officially do 'the jews' ; the afro carribean, and the irish anymore, although it is flirting with the idea of perscuting (tongue in cheek syylee) the welshe and gingers
I think the idea that prejudice is a product of fear
is a bit overworked here. Maybe fear has some place in it, but it's all a bit pop psychology for me. Again, rather than fear being the cause of racial/cultural prejudice, I'd say that the fear is the product of that prejudice. Prejudice usually has a much more complex historical basis to it than the psych explanations would acknowledge.
The historical/cultural basis of anti-semitism is traditionally taken to be religion. I'm actually pretty sketchy on it myself, because Judaism isn't a prominent feature of Australian public and cultural life, but also because my one-time knee-jerk atheism led me to fail to appreciate how central religious conflict is to the history that has produced the world we know today, and so I've not familiarised myself with that history and that significance as much as I could have.
Basically, though — and to massively, massively oversimplify the issues — there are two dimensions to anti-semitism: the Old Testament anti-semitism and the New Testament. I'm especially sketchy on the OT version, so I'll leave that, but the NT version, which is the one you're talking about, is supposedly based on Judaism's view of Jesus as a false messiah. Where Jesus is utterly central to Christianity, he is nothing to Judaism, or worse than that, a charlatan. Then there's the 'incident' of Jesus' arrest, trial and punishment (according to all the stories) being orchestrated by the elders of the Jews.
Given the utter dominance of Christianity throughout the last 2 millenia of Western history, it's not hard to see how any antagonism Christian authorities may have towards 'the Jews' could easily be embedded into all facets of Western civilisation and thought. And when prejudice is thus embedded, is thus institutionalised — to the point even that specific forms of such prejudice, e.g. Jewish as money-grabbing, may no longer have any obvious connection to the religious basis of the prejudice — it's not a question of fear, or even necessarily one of cultural difference. It's more habit, ignorance, and laziness more than anything else.
As I say, though, I'm relatively ignorant of the history here, so I hope someone who knows better can point out all my glaring errors and ham-fisted statements.
derived from negative experiences of whatever race. (and obviously stupdity to say all of the people from that country are the same)
Other times it's misinterpreted news stories 'taking all our jobs' etc. First time I saw a conservative (or whoever) leaflet from my local area with 'foeigners taking our jobs' I was really surprised, especially as there were no jobs, or foreign persons in my area
I can't imagine fear from Jewish history as they were the victims at that time- nothing scary about a victim. Germans actually get a much better rap
you big fat racist ;)
*gasps from the courtroom*
*gasps from the courtroom*
stormpower or something?
the people there seemed even more miserable than the average DiSer. racists and xenophobes never really seem particularly happy, do they?
about racism which suggested that the more we prove racist ideas/ genetic differences between races (for example, all black people being able to dance/ naturally rapacious/ having huge willies) to be scientifically nonsensical, the more racists will cling to the idea that other races are evil.
I think most idiots (male or female) who really believe that foreigners are stealing their jobs are the same idiots who think that women are all slags and all gays are trying to sleep with them and anyone in a wheelchair is thick. It's not an exclusive fear of blacks/ chinese/ whatever, it's just a fear of other people generally.
is racist, he fuckin loves it
Mind you she IS Asian
dunno if i could pull it off though.
Only the farm takes up most of the day and at night I'd just like a cup of tea. I mightn't be able to devote myself full time to the old racism.
It's hard enough having all these black people around *without* being racist.