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I saw a woman in a bowler hat at the weekend and it was the first time I'd seen a woman pull off that look - 5 points to London
and on the park opposite there was a peculiar scene. A dozen or so men dressed up in bowler hats and retro suits playing some kind of game (kinda like boules but with wooden sticks). They had a vat of home brew. They weren't old either. Strange.
it's sometimes hard to see your gold against the gold of the gold street and you lose your gold
wuh?! there are so many good ones.
</switches on irony detector>
Ignorant cunts who act like they own the pavement/ road.
I mostly hate london for being so ace and spoiling it for me to ever live anywhere else ever again.
You're falling over banks and cash machines in London, and if you're ever stuck, most places will give you cashback, or operate a dodgy wee machine at the back of their pub/ shop which fleeces you 1.85 for a withdrawal (which is better than havnig no money, I guess.)
has the most consistently good architecture? london has some fantastic features but its too big and too regularly bombed to be a great architectural city.
shall have to take a trip.
Just strolling around the City is an architectural pleasure.
Oh wait, that's Leeds
Where somehow "de-facto indie record shop" means "we can afford to charge you an extra £5 for everything whilst sneering at your shoes, you fucking idiot. Oh, and that Flaming Lips EP you've been looking forward to? Yeah, we're the only ones in the WHOLE OF EUROPE stocking it. £20 for four tracks is probably a bit too much for you, isn't it, you twat? Well, tough shit. Come back when you've bought a skinny cardigan and got a platinum credit card, then we might not hate you quite as much. Probably will though."
Slow-walking people, generally.
because of stupid people milling about on the pavement and not letting me get off the road and safely onto the pavement, thus nearly getting me killed by a rickshaw. I actually seethed. I said to a girl- you are VERY STUPID. That told her.
People visiting the city and moaning.
seems to be happening a lot today don't it.
am wondering if i am the cause.
what is a threadsmash?
I don't understand.
anywhere else would seem not as good
IN YOUR FACE!
You silly sausage.
and not being able to collect £200 on the way
I HATE THEM
on reflection i thank you for falling on that particular sword.
Constantly going on about this idylic utopia of pie shops, whippets and unemployment they've torn themselves from to come to London and fucking moan about it.
There was a girl at uni who was from near Preston who was always going oh london's so shit, the north is so greta oh i can't believe how shit it is here
WHY DID YOU CHOOSE TO SPEND 3 YEARS OF YOUR FUCKING LIFE HERE THEN
Preston's one of the worst places I've ever had the misfortune to live in.
I'm a northerner and I love London. <shrugs>
*Unless she lives in south london of course...
She was all like I'm from Preston and I'm so working class
She was actually from somewhere vaguely near Preston. She lived in a converted barn. Her dad was an IT consultant and her mum was a headteacher.
She was full of shit.
i chose to be here because it's not a bad city as much as i moan, there's a lot on, and there are a lot of my favourite people here. and crucially academia wise it has the only university course i could imagine myself doing, and if i cant bear 3 years living in a rubbish city for the sake of my passion then it's not really my passion.
for every moaning northerner there's about 4 people from the home counties or something who can't imagine spending their time anywhere else and have an arrogance/ignorance that people who prefer other place must either be uncultured or working class warriors. summed up nicely in your post.
know which one i'd rather be
But cheers for putting words in my mouth.
I just don't get why you would live somewhere you hate when you come from somewhere you really like?
Also I was born in London and have lived here all my life. Please don't call me a home counties person ta. I love the place I'm from dearly, so sorry if I get a bit tetchy when everyone comes here and goes IT'S SHIT
But cheers for trying to insinuate that I'm some kind of cunt. Nice one geez. xx
protectiveness of leeds when people slag it off.
my point is that that protectiveness tends to be a lot more intrinsic with londoners and in a lot of cases it tends to be snobby and elitist. not a dig at you but it's so often that a complaint about london is met with a blank expression and a unfunny joke about mines or simplistic northerners or whatever. and things like rank smells everywhere and rude twats everywhere are valid criticisms of a place.
i much prefer every major northern city i've been to, i think the people tend to be a lot friendlier, the atmosphere is nicer, and yes, admittedly financial things like paying a hundred quid a week for a rubbish room in a rubbish in a rubbish area only to be miles away from uni/work/friends is just a little bit annoying.
thinking the above doesnt make me les battersby or some thick northern simpleton as is so often so snobbishly implied.
It's one of those self-perpetuating myths that only Northerners actually believe.
This si kind of what I mean. LLB didn't say, or even insinuate, most fo what you've just written, and so you look really quite chippy here. And I KNOW you're not that guy, so it's all a bit silly. Sorry!
"Constantly going on about this idylic utopia of pie shops, whippets and unemployment they've torn themselves from"
is kinda my point, it was obviously tongue-in-cheek but the arrogant/ignorant view so many londoners have of places north of london is totally summed up there. most of what i'm saying is more about the attitude as a whole which definitely exists. i cant believe there's people denying or havent noticed that
And a reference to the person I went on to talk about, who despite being incredibly affluent, seemed desperate to play to the stereotype you so despise
Oxford Street is convient, but shite
Marylebone, Harley Street etc etc etc. It also has a couple of decent shops on it.
and home furnishings and cosmetics in Selfridges.
And some porno playing cards from LONDON LONDON LONDON.
The suspicion, resentment and downright chippiness it sparks in those with a latent inferiority complex. Tasty.
but your argument is akin to United fans saying that the only reason people dislike them is because they're jealous.
but sort of true in the case of London. I think many people are a bit jelaous of London, and maybe overwhelmed by its perceived scariness. London is a bit misunderstood, and many of its detractors haven't always given it a fair chance. There is something for everyone in London, and if you don't find it, you've not looked properly.
but London is just lame
It's not a defensiveness/London snobbery thing. Just...you know.
admittedly i've only lived there since september but i was really looking forward to being there and must admit as a whole it's been a pretty disappointing experience
i dont even think it's terrible or the worst place on earth and i've had a ton of great times there already, but i think it's a lie to say that you're just ignorant if you're not enjoying the place.
Jealous? Overwhelmed? Scared? Something for /everyone/?
You've changed, etc.
'Misunderstanding' a place doesn't make you jealous, it makes you mis-informed.
Folk that say 'aks'
Not being able to ALWAYS walk home
im too tired.
what is equally annoying however is Londoners being generally massively arrogant about their status amongst non-Londoners in London.
I don't understand it, it defies physics.
and that they're actually concrete and covered with chewing gum and homeless people.
Please do advise me on this, you know I love it when you're my arbiter of taste and decorum :D
East Dulwich has lots of twats. Choose Greenwich
Unless you like greyhounds, loads of greyhounds in East Dulwich. Greenwich has a weird daschund scottie cross breed dog though, and some pugs. All equals out I guess.
Man, I'm there <3
It just attracts a certain sort.
West London is great. Things West London has given the world
-Queens Park Rangers
-The White Horse
It would be brill if it wasn't for the certain sort it attracts. The common is lovely.
I need to be educated in these nuances before I move somewhere all wrong.
Aussies, loads and loads of Aussies. Everyone seems to be utterly image obsessed.
It basically feels like you're living in the middle of an advert the whole time.
who haven't managed to realise that at 27 they're not at university any more
there are much MUCH worse types of people living in London than the Clapham types. but it's a fairly typical dis response to get wound up by them
However I don't like going out there at all and would prefer to live elsewhere. It's not a massive issue for me in any way but these descriptions are definitely accurate.
they invented gayness!
The Thames walk from Putney all the way out to Teddington is ace. The canal gets great too over this way past Osterley.
Richmond is posho central but nice to stroll through the park. Barnes wetlands centre is great.
There are pockets of interesting stuff going on (Tooting has the best curry houses in London, Kingston has a few little record shops, Balham has some good boozers, Brixton has a good market) but it is mainly the preserve of rich bankers, well off families and antipodeans.
A lot of people get on their high horse about how fucking amazing Shoreditch, Chalk Farm, Old Street, Hackney, Leyton etc is. I like those areas too as there's always stuff going on, but I prefer getting 'away from it all' at weekends myself and just dropping by.
No-one who can choose to not live in Hackney thinks Hackney isn't hell's arsehole.
One Night In Hackney.
but I really can't be bothered. All the worst people flock to Clapham in droves and I hate it.
but actually meaning a very small area of east london.
seriously, one hour train journey from the midlands to euston, one hour train journey from euston to my house
couldnt leave london for university fast enough, but over the years away i've realised its a pretty good city, one of the best in the world to live in.
what the fuck are you even? stop being a prick, nobody thinks you're cool
although i haven't been for a few years so it may have changed.
and not even be that drunk
the arduous journey back from a night out when you just want to roll into bed.
And the idea I can't just collapse into a bus or a cab and get home without thinking too much.
facking dwoivers ooh can't dwoive pwopahly
+1 for black snot
i love it here but ain't no way i'm staying here forever.
and the twats that live there.
Mainly though, the sheer number of people who are thoroughly miserable. I know, it's a drag, but don't look like you want to die, even if you do.
Anything negative about it is completly cancelled out with the good stuff.
their Facebooks are all "London baby!" "On way to London!" etc.
Untrue has yet to sully it with his presence.
is as certain a signifier that the area is over as you'll ever see.
And the fact that it was very busy means that the kind of person the area attracts is bound to change somewhat significantly in the coming few years.
Which is fine I guess. This happens as areas improve and people who once lived there grow up.
But B@One Bars? Sports clubs? Spas? Dear God, where will it end...
That part of town's become a no-go area at the weekend for me now.
at lunch time and it was absolutely rammed. Like, 40 deep on the pavement rammed. What the fuck? B@1 is the worst bar chain ever. Christ.
The M25 is not a force field
No India, That's Daddy's Yakult!
The Tzatziki & Trust Fund
Thursday 15th June, doors 19.30, audio rape 20.30
£7 (NUS £5)
background, is the ratio of grey concrete blocks to green/nature. Hard to get used to. I know most cities suffer from this, a few don't (Norwich, Vancouver....erm, others).
I really hate 'the city' as well. The financial part of it really sucks the life out of you, and I'm not even involved in it. Just to see people in suits crammed onto the tube with the look of death on them.
SHHHHH. You're ruining the tranquility.
do you mean people who live in london literally have black snot?! why?!
And i been in london 9 years.
Being called a crackhead and cokehead when my drug of choice is only alcohol.
Obviously the snot itself isn't black, but a ton of black sooty stuff gets up your nose and turns it black.
but in london it means run for your fucking life
Would probably stop those idiots who begin to cross when the red man appears, then continue to cross at a leisurely pace once the traffic lights have turned green.
That's about it. Great city.
...in London - cue LADS, BANTS etc... Stayed in Kings Cross which I know isn't supposed to be the best area. I had to walk a long, long time after getting off the train to find a pub; this does not happen in any part of Glasgow.
Nah, I enjoyed London. The locals were surprisingly tolerant of our drunken Scottish rampage through their fair city. Dunno how many actual Londoners we met but we met a hell of a lot of nice foreigners. The unfriendliness thing is a bit of misnomer.
I would consider Glasgow a fairly friendly place but there now seems to be areas filled with drunken, lad-midgets; I don't know why they are all so tiny. Sauchiehall Street is pretty much no go bar a few places here and there.
London does smell pretty bad in hot weather. At least in Glasgow we get the nice brewery smell - although this is a bit of an acquired taste to be honest.
rents are too high
that's all. rest is good.
Anyways, can anyone tell me where this picture has been taken? Ta x
Then throw it to the ground.
I'll send my bills to you
A fine you shall receive.
smiling to themselves, staring at other passengers. Think it's a summer thing cos normally it's pretty sedate
RICH KIDS. london rich kids who look like me but are RICH with loads of rich mates and office jobs. they're all in bands etc. I can never have that cos i haven't been here my whole life = jealousy
you don't know them (rare event)
so pretty. would rather be in london than any of those places
like one of those fucking T-Mobile adverts.
No wonder everyone thinks Londoners are cunts. They're not, it's the small but highly visible minority of dicks loving their life as dickheads ruining it for everyone else. THAT SONG HAD A POINT YOU KNOW.
like today, for the first time EVER, I went to shopping centre [in Shepherd's Bush (?)] and didn't wanna KILL MYSELF. Got some nice shoes and a book for my Dad. Richmond Park was quite nice. Also , went to see some Hawksmoor churches, saw a free Brahms concert...saw some ok comedian...Going to see some beekeeeping tomorrow http://www.union.ic.ac.uk/scc/esoc/ tomorrow then to this exhibition http://www.vam.ac.uk/content/exhibitions/cult-of-beauty/about/
so yeah, loads more stuff that I want to do but too little time to see everyone and do everything.
and the bikes should have some sort of basket. St Paul's is far, far too expensive. As a city, it's not too overpriced even. Quite pleased with the prices generally. Maybe there are too many planes overhead but what can you do? Pret is crap for vegans too.
Winter is miserable and summer is disgusting
why don't you move to another city if it's so grubby, uncomfortable, awkward, etc, etc?
I've had a number of friends and acquaintances live and work in London for periods of time, and they all say the same things (too big, dirty, poverty levels, rents too high, everythings too far apart), but these were the same whinging bellends who moaned about Edinburgh being too small, not flashy enough, nothing really to do, etc, etc. I wasn't surprised in the slightest when they gave London a bad report. It's an attitudinal problem. A people problem.
If you're a whinging bellend by nature, nowhere is going to be good enough.