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IT'S 'TRY TO', YOU JERKS.
Really makes me loose it
Did he really turn round, you berk? Was he facing away from you when you initially spoke to him? No? I thought not.
though i guess yr grip is more to do with 'turned around'.
does that make it even worse?
get out of this thread
As long as the words accurately express what is meant, I really couldn't care less about your jumped-up pedantry, wheeled out only to show off how smart and superior you clearly think you are.
you studied and write English for a living and you don't even know if you use the correct term? Sounds like you're butthurt about using the wrong one all this time to me, chief.
Or people starting a sentence with "and"?
I repeat my earlier viewpoint: give a shit.
And I'm not furious, just mildy exasperated (IMMA KILL YOU. IMMA KILL YOU ALL).
*safety wink ;)*
ya'll stupid though
All snobbery aside, it takes me an extra few precious seconds to figure out what the person means because I'm expecting the correct phrase.
And 'could of' is confusing because taken literally it usually destroys the meaning of whatever sentence it's plonked in to.
I'm not arguing that such misspellings make things incomprehensible, just that it makes them very slightly more difficult to understand on the first pass. That's (very slightly) irritating to me.
attempt are synonyms
"the amount of butternut squashes..."
It's fewer and number, you twerp.
thing can be counted individually = fewer
thing can't be counted individually = less
i don't understand how anyone could get annoyed at this rule. as i said below, less than is a mathematical operator, <, and is why i use it on a day to day basis.
'less milk' is fine, but 'less apples' doesn't really make sense.
'fewer apples' is fine but 'fewer milk' doesn't really make sense.
so the expanded versions retain that structure.
i.e. 'fewer than six apples' is normally taken to be the preferred way to write it, rather than 'less than six apples'.
which begs the question: which of the following two is 'correct'?:
a) less than six litres of milk
b) fewer than six litres of milk
presumably a), or maybe both are ok, depending on context. but if it were bottles of milk, it'd generally be 'fewer than six bottles of milk' that'd be preferable, i'd have thought.
though there's disagreement as to whether it should be seen as a grammatical rule or a stylistic choice, in such cases as "10 items or less/fewer". See e.g. the position attributed to The Cambridge Guide to English Usage here:
I hadn't considered it before, but I'm also intrigues by the inconsistency in application of the rule, as noted in the Wikipedia entry, regarding "at least" vs. "at fewest".
My position on these things is that it only matters in the context of formal language use, and even then, in the case of some "rules", insistence on them borders on the pathological.
and yeah applications such as at least and at fewest are ignored. But the fewer/less and amount/number thing, like i say, is jsut something that has been programmed into me now. There is no hope.
the fewer/least distinction is programmed into me to. It's just that the utterly pervasive, but highly contextual 'breaking' of the rule is also programmed into me: "fewer corresponds to countable nouns; less corresponds to uncountable nouns — except in the case of supermarket queues reserved for people with '10 items or less'".
I do have one grammar* bugbear: always annoys me to see 'however' being used as a coordinating conjunction. But seeing as 'however' is used mostly in formal context, the 'annoyance' is rather pleasure derived from my superior understanding of grammar.
*it's a matter of style, really, like every other example in this thread.
its just been beaten into me that much it grates whenever i see em misused.
Less Than is a quite often used mathematical operator.
i think its something to do with like mathematics started calling it that and just thought 'naah we'll stick with it.
Here's an article i just googled
that the sort of people who got uptight about grammar and misuse of language and thinks like that were sexually insecure e.g. worried about the size of their penis etc.
Let me find the link...
it really doesn't matter. you need to relax.
and calling people `jerks`. Getting all prickly about typos and stuff.
Suggests you're a little...peeved?
or doesn't know how to use an apostrophe I will assume that they're a bit thick. Do you want people to think you're a bit thick? "NO, I DON'T CARE!"
but for 'try and'? Nah. 'Try to' sounds quite formal to me.