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Thought I'd set up the thread now, looking forward to it. Speculation/comment away, or not.
...which wasn't bad by any means but nowhere near the best. However, this was really quite enjoyable. Anyone else think next week looks pretty terrifying though? Not sure I can handle it from the look of the trailer...
Liked the whole exploring the back of the tardis aspect, as well as the tardis being a woman, obviously, that was fun.
But was anyone else who's watched Coronation Street then watched this shocked that Suranne Jones is actually a pretty good actress?
Great episode, but she did just do a Helena Bonham Carter impression.
Might slip into the top 10 new Who since the return. It started a bit oddly and it felt a bit of a mess but once it got going it had everything I love about the show's core themes.
The Doctors true love being given a voice was inspired. The voice of House was great. The line about never reading the front door sign. An aging Rory was scary. Nice to see the Ood too.
The companions being separated felt old school. In fact the episode was oozing with nods to classic era Who. Corridors, design nods to the 70s TARDIS. Quarries. The Doc being out of his depth and te feeling that he was being zapped around the cosmos out of his control. Tricking the bad guy using his brain. Revisiting the old set.
I thought it was magical. The bit where the handle flipped itself was great. It also avoided the whole 'Does Amy love the Doc?' thing which I approved of.
Geeky point. The TARDIS said it had archived all of the Docs past and future consoles. Was the number 13 or 30? I wondered if they stuck that in to put into motion the idea that he can regenerate more than 13 times...?
9/10 from me.
Pretty scary again. And high brow stuff. I wonder if kids are liking it?
Next weeks looks scary too. Were they... Sea devils?
There was a quote in there about water, forests and RIVER. Hmmm...
wasn't the idea that he only had so many regenerations dismissed in the Sarah Jane Chronicles, which I guess is canon? And obviously, for financial reasons, the Beeb's never going to let it happen...
More interesting was the fact that the Corsair regenerated into a woman a couple of times, which leaves it open for the Doctor becoming a lady (though I imagine the Beeb would have trouble with that too).
Liked the fact they went into the TARDIS - more of that please. The relationship between the Doctor and TARDIS was really touching. I almost didn't mind all the spacey-wacey stuff. And I loved the line about him pushing the door when he should pull - it takes a fan with an eagle eye like Gaiman to notice that and make a gag out of it.
The KILL AMY stuff was great too - very Shining-esque. The idea that Rory can't wait again is really sinister.
And the "The only water in the forest is the river"... well, I'm sure people can analyse that for months.
was a reference to River saving everyone from the Vashta Nerada in the Forest of the Dead
All speculation is pointing towards big shit happening in the episode "A Good Man Goes to War" at the end of this half of the series...
Or did I make that up?
which we would assume is the Doctor. But maybe not?
not just having significance to her personally?
hmm, I wonder who that might be. Maybe the American President?
Of course, judging by the timeline, River would presumably have had to kill The Doctor on one of their earliest meetings, when he knew her well and she didn't know him well, but the way she said 'the best man I had ever known' would suggest she'd known the victim for a long time before she killed him and there was some regret that she had done.
Additionally, before The Doctor was killed by the Astronaut, he was very familiar with who it was and the way he spoke to The Astronaut seemed to give the impression that whoever they may be was familiar with The Doctor too. Therefore, if it was The Doctor who River was imprisoned for killing AND it was very early in her timeline, then she wouldn't know who he was at all.
And lastly, IF River killed The Doctor it might not be this incarnation, but the 12th, so River would fall in love with the 11th Doctor in this series and then kill the next incarnation and would thusly not be completely fucked up with the knowledge that she'd killed the man she was going to fall in love with.
The same one where I thought the priest/soldier said she'd been locked up for killing a great man?
In that case it would still follow the theory I think we all came to that she killed him on their first meeting and then got to know him after that while he sort of got killed on their last meeting.
When she reminisces it doesn't matter that when she killed him she didn't know him as she's saying it at the point where she has known him for ages. In fact the Angels episode would possibly be almost their last meeting so she's known him a great deal by then.
she might not know she'd killed him because he didn't look the same? Interesting. But she knows he's the last Timelord now, right?
She may not have known he was a Time Lord at all if'n she killed him on their first meeting (possibly), but she certainly does know later on in her life.
I can't see how he can keep using her for much longer. Hopefully he can somehow bring Gallifrey back too.
Oh man, I fucking hate River Song so much, actually. She's my least favourite character. I groan so much whenever I realise she's going to be in an episode.
If they don't get rid of her, they may at least get a different actress to play her since River is getting younger and Alex Kingston is getting older. Alex Kingston is a belm anyway.
She's a bit of a smug know it all, but I can live with that.
And possibly tied in to her death in the forest...but then I also wonder if it could have something to do with Pond as well. Could there be a reason he's given these characters water based names besides that they sound great?
Visit this page, click onthe Fourth Dimension banner, and scroll to the bottom - then click on the full stop after "Gallifrey"... Feels like more of a teaser than a spolier (I didn't find this myself, some clever types have been following clues on the website)
"Fear me, I killed them all."
Yeah, great stuff.
Good old Neil Gaiman. It’s one of my favourites of the new Who, for sure.
The thing I was happiest was about was the severe lack of River Song. Obviously, as soon as the title The Doctor’s Wife was revealed, people immediately expected it to be all about her. One of the things I’ve hated about the new series of Doctor Who – more the RTD era than anything – is the insistence on making The Doctor some kind of eccentric hunk who all of his companions fall in love with and who he has feelings for in return. I always saw The Doctor as quite asexual, so it was quite nice that Gaiman seemed to hold this view as well. Also, it makes total sense that The Doctor’s life partner wouldn’t be a person – who would grow old over time and die – but an ageless, sentient machine that is as intelligent as him and who has been his constant companion for hundreds and hundreds of years. I liked that bit where The Doctor said ‘You never took me where I wanted to go’ or whatever, and The TARDIS replied ‘No, but I always took you where you needed to go’. That was good.
because the TARDIS wanted to see the universe!
That was a pretty classic Neil Gaiman move, I thought. Nicely done.
I still love his bewildered reaction when Amy tried to sleep with him in the last series
Realised I was still a bit teary eyed about half an hour later. Wonderful stuff.
The second half was truly wonderful.
The corridor stuff was proper old school and I loved it. Made me feel like a kid again. It was also PROPERLY dark. The stuff with the Dcotor and the Tardis was properly heartwarming, but without ever getting too cheesey. Wonderful stuff
So far my hatred of Dr Who is winning and I haven't watched this.
It wasn't really a distinctively Gaiman script - I mean, it was funny and clever, but that's fairly standard for a decent Who epsiode.
I'm really enjoying the new series.
^ boring comment but it's true.
Even better that time. Loved the line about 'i like it when you call me Old Girl' and the exchange about 'I never got to say... Goodbye? No... Hello'.
On another note the Moffat stories over the years have woven loads of interesting plot strands in now. I wonder how many of them are ambiguous red herrings to deter spoilers and how many are plot arcs? The forest water river thing is interesting. Aren't petrified forests in the U.S. AKA deserts?
I keep thinking back to how the TARDIS gave out the same glow as the Doctor does when he regenerates.
Also, that very first scene when Amy met the Doc could still be important. Something about an abnormal duck Pond potentially being the most important thing in the universe.