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I bloody love having an x-box.
Also this is why I'm glad Xbox Live costs money it has way more money invested back into it in both Functionality and Security compared to PSN
Yesiamaduck | 27 Apr '11, 00:22 | ^ This | Reply
That's an awfully long fall from the top of that high horse You wanna be careful
Anschul | 27 Apr '11, 00:26 | ^ This | Reply
Is the x-box service more secure? Or is it just that there are less subscibers so it probably isn't worth an attack. I've never minded paying because its a great service, but I've never used PS3 online.
-don't think so, not especially.
-prolly more to do with retraction of Linux support afaik.
in recent months so became a target. Microsoft are much better than they used to be from a security perspective and not throwing their weight around in the way they used to, but it's unlikely XBL is completely secure either - few 'cloud' services truely are.
The number of basic mistakes Sony seem to have made is unforgivable though.
but from what I understand it is much better monitored, the few times it has been compromised Microsoft had stopped/resolved the issue a lot quicker then Sony had & stopped it from becoming a problem on this scale.
Surely Love film and other services that use it are pretty pissed off about the whole thing as well.
Verbal | 26 Apr '11, 23:37 | ^ This | Reply
sony's playstation network has been down for like a week now
hackers have stolen acount names, passwords, credit card numbers, date of birth names and addresses. Biggest online security fuckup ever basically.
Bamnan | 26 Apr '11, 23:38 | ^ This | Reply
My housemate was freaking out about this earlier.
Alex-in-Ciderland | 26 Apr '11, 23:38 | ^ This | Reply
it's pretty scary
that's my password to like everything gone, and all my money :(
Bamnan | 26 Apr '11, 23:39 | ^ This | Reply
Is it likely the hackers plan to defraud millions of people...
or just get a bit of a mention in the media and then probably a some work?
buynikeshoes_09 | 26 Apr '11, 23:39 | ^ This | Reply
they'll probably sell the details on
Bamnan | 26 Apr '11, 23:40 | ^ This | Reply
ONE time i used my debit card on PSN. Best course of action guys?
cowcow | 26 Apr '11, 23:49 | ^ This | Reply
buy a gameboy instead.
nice safe gameboy.
michael_w | 26 Apr '11, 23:52 | ^ This | Reply
icehockeyhair this'd this
check your account history online
change your passwords to important stuff, cancel your credit/debit card if you feel worried. Not much you can do about fraudsters now potentially having your name and address and d.o.b though :(
Bamnan | 26 Apr '11, 23:53 | ^ This | Reply
cowcow | 27 Apr '11, 00:05 | ^ This | Reply
this kind of shit is gonna happen again and again isn't it :/
iamwiggy | 26 Apr '11, 23:57 | ^ This | Reply
creakyknees | 26 Apr '11, 23:57 | ^ This | Reply
you play PS3's?
cowcow | 26 Apr '11, 23:58 | ^ This | Reply
marilyninthesky this'd this
BBC News and Ars Technica site both reporting this...
Do people think Sony can recover from this, if the worst case scenario is true?
SarcasticFringehead | 27 Apr '11, 00:15 | ^ This | Reply
Yeah they will recover probably
Fire a bunch of people, get an independent review of their new security services done, take a substantial hit in legal fees possibly.
Bamnan | 27 Apr '11, 00:21 | ^ This | Reply
For the first time ever I'm vaguely pleased that the Wii is shit at online stuff
This is going to happen all the time from now on, innit? And credit cards will take the hit. And then put up charges. And then we'll have to bail them out again. All because you lot wanted an extra Zombie map in 2008.
You disgust me...
vamos | 27 Apr '11, 00:16 | ^ This | Reply
i don't care
i don't own a playstation and have nothing to steal that doesn't actually exist
Permafrost_Cities | 27 Apr '11, 00:19 | ^ This | Reply
It's no biggie
I wonder how many millions of people around have these details stolen every day
This is just a centralised swipe
Bad news for Sony though - targeted by a rival? Or just a vulnerable network?
Anschul | 27 Apr '11, 00:20 | ^ This | Reply
*around the world
Anschul | 27 Apr '11, 00:21 | ^ This | Reply
Targeted by cunt hackers from 4chan pissed off
Because Sony sued Anonymous for an earlier hack on their system. Massive fuck up really
Bamnan | 27 Apr '11, 00:23 | ^ This | Reply
Report your credit/debit cards lost or stolen
Yesiamaduck | 27 Apr '11, 00:21 | ^ This | Reply
Also this is why I'm glad Xbox Live costs money
it has way more money invested back into it in both Functionality and Security compared to PSN
Yesiamaduck | 27 Apr '11, 00:22 | ^ This | Reply
That's an awfully long fall from the top of that high horse
You wanna be careful
Anschul | 27 Apr '11, 00:26 | ^ This | Reply
Don't think that would make any difference
This is all due to Sony removing their Linux os feature from ps3s which technically they are well within their rights to do. I love my ps3 though and would be sad to see this bring about the end of sce
Bamnan | 27 Apr '11, 00:26 | ^ This | Reply
no big deal
if 77 million people have had their details stolen what are the chances they will use mine?
sharp_yet_blunt | 27 Apr '11, 00:30 | ^ This | Reply
I had a PS3 for like 5 months once, then I offloaded it cos I never played it. Definitely gave all my fudging details to buy some shitty download that I never played though. So much hassle for so little gain, haven't even played computer games for years. :(
This is really gonna fuck with PlayStation's rep & sales.
littlebirds | 27 Apr '11, 00:35 | ^ This | Reply
for years though my playstation i've been murdering, stealing cars, robbing banks,
seems only fair that it should get some kind of retribution
Oh_Shangri-La | 27 Apr '11, 00:38 | ^ This | Reply
Icarus-Smicarus this'd this
i think creakyknees has the right idea, like.
money doesn't exist folks.
Permafrost_Cities | 27 Apr '11, 00:42 | ^ This | Reply
Just read it took Sony a week to release this information
a whole week to go 'oh by the way, we did this because your details got compromised 6 days ago' that is going to get them a lot of heat, especially when this shit makes national news (which it will do)
Yesiamaduck | 27 Apr '11, 00:52 | ^ This | Reply
I love being smug about my Playstation 2
I'm still convinced it's really the only games console anyone will ever need ever.
partyheart | 27 Apr '11, 01:09 | ^ This | Reply
the beeb's report, fwiw
Verbal | 27 Apr '11, 01:12 | ^ This | Reply
it's not like they're going to do anything with it
no one will have any money taken from them
splendirosity | 27 Apr '11, 01:19 | ^ This | Reply
bump for the dayshift
Bamnan | 27 Apr '11, 08:15 | ^ This | Reply
i doubt any money will be taken. But is this why the server is down? because i only got internet again last night and went to have an online game. I was going nuts! 4 weeks without internet and when i get it the server is down!
or does nobody know?
is why did it take Sony 6 days to tell people this
their PR department too stupid to realise that the delay would only increase the inevitable shitstorm, or (I suspect more likely) they weren't aware the data has been compromised until yesterday.
That said, Sony's PR department have proved themselves to be pretty thick in the past, so anything's possible.
they may not of know the extent but they should of at least, as bam says, said 'this could of happened so be vigilant'
depending on how the internal network is put together and what software's involved. Any responsible company (and yes, I know we're discussing Sony) would rightly shut the service down simply as a response to realising they'd being hacked as soon as they were aware of any breach into PSN and before investigating. Finding out the extent of it then depends on trawling a hell of a lot of logs, which does take time, and it's quite possible that those investigating weren't involved in the design of PSN, so wouldn't be aware that the data was stored in an accessible way.
The absolutely unforgivable part of this is that passwords apparently were stored unencrypted (or using very lose encryption) and credit card details appear not to have been stored in a PCI complient database (which if it's the case the banks are partly responsible for too).
but if a company was so stupid as to store stuff like passwords in an unencrypted database and credit card details in a database that doesn't meet the most basic of security measures they should PROBABLY of flagged it earlier. But yeah I understand what you're saying, especially if the people looking into it weren't involved in the design
It's a fuck-up of epic proportions (but don't make the mistake of thinking they're the only company storing data like that... there's plenty).
Not that it helps anyone that's potentially lost their details, but NEVER allow a company to keep your card number/expiry date for future usage in case something like this happens.
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Please tell me more!
and basically batter the large golf ball about trying to get it in a goal whilst the other team assassinates you and doesn't play the game properly.
Then there's Halo ball which is like skeeball.
The Power Slayer gamemode is decent though. Basically, every kill you get, you get stronger and more awesome (infinite run, invisibility, inifinite ammo) but it's on a timer, so the more killz the more skillz.
Plus, the announcer says ACTION SACK and it sounds cool.
How much swearing tips it do you think?
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The word Sex in a thread title bars it as well. Fucking is sexing. I think thats why. Its odd though, as it can have whatever it likes in the body of the post.
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xbox vs playstation rivalry
Has been thised by DannyDyer
FANCY A CHEEKY 'QUILA?
I bloody love still using cheques