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just seeing if it has become apparent recently to anyone else yet?
A new hedgerow planted in Ifield!!!
WHICH muppet does Milliband most resemble?
NO2AV are gonna bullshit their way to a victory in the referendum. The local and scottish government elections are gonna be a major disaster for the LibDems. Labour miraculously manage to just pip the SNP. The NHS reforms are lined up to be tabled with naff all amendment by a newly emboldened (effective) Tory government.
Nick Clegg realises the only way to stop the march of Tory policy is to withdraw from the coalition, prompting a general election in the Autumn. Labour just about do what is required to win. The LibDems MPs aren't quite back to the days of holding conferences in a taxi cab (but they're probably able to do it in a minibus).
We're back to square one with Ed Miliband as PM. And the UK enters the next phase of it's self-flaggelating red-blue see-saw process that leaves it just as shafted as it ever was, but by a more drawn out process. Eventually, sometime in the not-too-distant future, a Tory gov led by Boris Johnson is faced with selling out a bankrupt UK to Europe or the USA. All because Nick Clegg fucked up over tuition fees because he thought he could win on AV, and didn't see the NHS thing coming.
Meanwhile, a post-war, post-revolutionary Middle East & Northern Africa have gotten their shit together to the point where they're challenging on the world stage as a major political and economic bloc. Italy, Spain, Greece, and Portugal defect prompting a Euro-NAME war (WWIII).
All because of Nick Clegg selling out the students.
Because if it is, that shit doesn't bother me. If Hollywood has taught me anything (and it has) it's that when it happens I should head for high ground....with a hot chick.....and riding a motorbike....with a baby.....someone elses baby....or get on a big giant ark....with the Queen.
TOP FIVE PRIORITIES
* Cut waiting times to see a cancer specialist
* Keep up the number of police on the streets
* Retain free university education for all Scottish students
* Spend more money on apprenticeships for unemployed young people
* Reduce the council tax for households where all the adults are pensioners
LOWEST FIVE PRIORITIES
* Allow 14-year-olds to leave school to train for a trade
* Build a new road bridge across the River Forth
* Combine the eight separate police forces in Scotland into a single national force
*** Hold a referendum on whether Scotland should become an independent country ***
* Raise the money local councils need through a local income tax rather than the council tax
Since 2007, as a minority government needing to work with the other parties, the SNP has delivered on 84 out of its 94 manifesto commitments.
Most of those top five have been delivered by the SNP. And a referendum, whilst seen as desirable by the party, hasn't been pushed through at the expense of other things. Which the supporters of the London-led parties would do well to remember the next time they cast around daft accusations of blind nationalist flag waving über alles (followed swiftly by the adoption/poaching of all manner of SNP policies in the run-up to May's election).
I thought you were better than wanton linkage and cut & paste, Theo. Leave that to us pros. ;-)
I heard it on the news last night and thought it would be good to troll you with it. :D
It's a fun game. Not sure how good it is as a spectator sport though.
Very fair point.
The method might be a bit fuzzy, but I was pretty sure I'd just about nailed the right answer. What's more end-is-nigh than WWIII?
And why are they a minority government? Because, despite the LibDems sharing just about every policy with the SNP bar an independence referendum, the Westminster bosses just couldn't bear allow their Scottish branch to be in government due to that one issue. Why do the LibDem leaders hate referendums that 'no-one cares about'? ...oh, they don't, they're having one as part of the coalition with the Tories and are just petty, short-sighted fools. Aaaaand we're back on track: Nick Clegg is to blame for WWIII.
but the SNP are gay. Stop being a try-hard Englishman.
and the SNP are, at the very least, no worse than the other shower. Stop being a self-hating Scot.
Scottish independence is a nice idea and if the majority of people want it, then fine go for it... but tbh I have more in common with someone from a similar background in Glasgow/Edinburgh than parts of the South.
Scotland has its own identity but come on it's not really foreign is it? We all get on pretty well. I'm not into all this shitty English nationalism crap. It's embarrassing. Scotland would become a more insular place if the SNP got their way and England would suffer too.
so that the English would suffer, we would have had it ages ago.
do you (or did you ever) live in Scotland? It's not clear from what you're saying.
As for "not really foreign". But it's an interesting word to use (especially when you were comparing your background to Glasgow/Edinburgh and parts of the South). It's arguably correct, by way of circumstance. But the counter argument would contain the fact that Scotland has a separate, distinct and autonomous health, education, legal, religious frameworks, and (in some parts) language. I don't think England would suffer. I don't think England would suffer or Scotland would become insular. I think both countries would feel a sense of liberation (and hopefully it would lead to a more regionally balanced approach to government within the British Isles).
None of this makes independence a top priority of mine, just that, on balance, if it the choice were presented, I'd be for it. No point in trying to force it upon anyone though.
Im just trying to find out if anyone else can see it
So feel free to tell us.
I'm a bit alarmed at this.
That they are our lizard overlords in disguise using the news to control us.
Welcome to the underground brother. You're through the looking glass now.
Trust no one.
tell me what you 'see'
i'm going out to the pub
Surprise fall in inflation to 4%. - Meh. Some minor spin on economy figures.
Japan raises nuclear crisis level. - No major surprise. What can you do?
Nato 'not doing enough' in Libya. - As per Japan.
Church of England in 'sham marriage' crackdown. - No-one cares.
Worst fall in retail sales since records began in 1996. - It's this one, isn't it? Lack of consumption being reported as a bad thing. Back-to-front news. Just like when houses being more expensive is reported as being a good thing.
>The British Retail Consortium (BRC) pointed out that "uncomfortably high inflation and low wage growth have produced the first year-on-year fall in disposable incomes for 30 years".
>The UK Consumer Prices Index (CPI) annual rate of inflation has fallen to 4%, down from 4.4% in February.
>Retail Prices Index (RPI) inflation - which includes mortgage interest payments - fell to 5.3% from 5.5% in February.
I think that you can press your nose to close up to those index's and indicators, to get a proper picture, but it does lead one to what I was getting at....and i think that if you look at figures like that and extrapolate what might be done/could be done to alleviate any problems with those figures then you should come to the inescapable conclusions, that there is some very serious F****d upness
They're all wearing wigs. It's been going on for a long time.
I thought that was their real hair.
RETAIL SALES SUFFER WORST FALL
HIGH PRICE OF OIL IS HITTING ENERGY DEMAND
HOUSE MARKET STILL IN DOLDROMS
ANGRY BIRDS TOPS APPY AWARDS LIST
my mortgage is still lovely and cheap. NOMNOMNOMNOM
hooray! good ol' world.
It it a dolphin? It's usually a dolphin.
Sometimes they're ships.
when you see it I will let you know
And won't really be able to watch the news tonight.
PM, if it's so secret?
It has an old school 1984/KGB feel about it which seems at odds with your online persona and also makes me feel paranoid given I should really be doing some financial type work rather than chasing Foley's new alt around.
Foley's wrestling skills will be useless against these
Which, coincidentally, is what creaky uses as interior artwork in his Acid Hut / Compost Bin.
what the hell are you on about
is accompanied by a crude and dubious 3D modelling visualisation/animation.
but i'll go with making stuff up. except i can't think of anything funny. soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo go on, tell us please creaky.
soup slaughter remembered ?
I have a wall of tapes of John Peel shows etc next to me with titles like these I cut from newspapers without realising that one day they'd all come true
looks like they realised he'd rumbled them and was about to spill the beans. He'll come back but he'll be different, it'll be subtle
i think insidious schemes were thought up when all the economist writers went to bilderberg last year
C'mon creaks. Spill the beans.
who tells you they know a really juicy secret like they're gonna share it with you, then says that actually they really shouldn't say what it is, that it wouldn't be right to share. Frequently there was no secret, they were just being dicks.
I don't want to believe that it's true with our creaks, but as time passes he leaves me little option.
I totally see it! HAHA!
no one will really give a shit
I think they should see, I will confrm it to the people concerned, by pm, when they do see it.
Wasnt particularly obvious in todays news....I will bump this when the news is spectacularly showing it again
I'm saying no one will give a shit if'n they realise whatever it is you're on about. People are only caring because you're hyping it up a bit with all the secrecy.
This is what I think it was, and it would have happened at a point where important actual news was being related in order to distract the viewing population of straight men and lesbians.
You just need to join the dots, read between the lines etc etc.
Country X is about to do Y then Z will happen which will cause... fuck ran out of letters, should have started earlier in the alphabet.
Is that the kind of thing?
she's even got new tits
Have you been paying closer attention to the news?
we've all looked.
none of us have the slightest clue what the hell you're on about.
spill the beans.
you do have the beans, don't you?
and i'm talking about proper beans. baked beans. not those magic beans.
I will highlight to you the next time that it is particularly visible
I know *exactly* what you mean.
If so, have you seen.. well, you know? You know.. the thing? I know you have to pretty well-versed and up-to-date on these things, but, well, it's becoming increasingly obvious. I can't believe that they keep putting it in there to be honest.
you've actually watching the documentary 'Collapse' on repeat.
In answer to your question, I see no evidence of any IMPENDING DOOM. But I'll keep looking.
to his one about his own narcisism.
Remember him? The gnome who could turn straw into gold? Well he's back now, but you wouldn't recognize him. To begin with, he's not an individual gnome anymore. I'm not sure how best to describe him. Let's just say he's metamorphosed into an accretion, a cabal, an assemblage, a malevolent, incorporeal, transnational multi-gnome. Rumpelstiltskin is a notion (gnotion), a piece of deviant, insidious, white logic that will eventually self-annihilate. But for now he's more than okay. He's cock of the walk. King of All That Really Counts (Cash). He's decimated the competition, killed all the other kings, the other kinds of kings. He's persuaded us that he's all we have left. Our only salvation.
What kind of potentate is Rumpelstiltskin? Powerful, pitiless and armed to the teeth. He's a kind of king the world has never known before. His realm is raw capital, his conquests emerging markets, his prayers profits, his borders limitless, his weapons nuclear. To even try and imagine him, to hold the whole of him in your field of vision, is to situate yourself at the very edge of sanity, to offer yourself up for ridicule. King Rumpel reveals only part of himself at a time. He has a bank-account heart. He has television eyes and a newspaper nose in which you see only what he wants you to see and read only what he wants you to read. (See what I mean about the edge of sanity?) There's more: a Surround Sound stereo mouth which amplifies his voice and filters out the sound of the rest of the world so that you can't hear it even when it's shouting (or starving, or dying) and King Rumpel is only whispering, rolling his r's in his North American way. Listen carefully, this is most of the rest of his story. (It hasn't ended yet, but it will. It must.) It ranges across seas and continents, sometimes majestic and universal, sometimes confining and local. Now and then I'll peg it down with disparate bits of history and geography that could mar the gentle art of storytelling. So please bear with me.
In March this year (2000 AD), the President of the United States (His Excellency the most exalted plenipotentiary of Rumpeldom) visited India. He brought his own bed, the feather pillow he hugs at night and a merry band of businessmen. He was courted and fawned over by the genuflecting representatives of this ancient civilization with a fervor that can only be described as indecent. Whole cities were superficially spruced up. The poor were herded away, hidden from the presidential gaze. Streets were soaped and scrubbed and festooned with balloons and welcome banners. In Delhi's dirty sky, vindicated nuclear hawks banked and whistled: Dekho ji dekho! Bill is here because we have the Bomb. Those Indian citizens with even a modicum of self-respect were so ashamed they stayed in bed for days. Some of us had puzzled furrows on our brows. Since everybody behaved like a craven, happy slave when Master visited, we wondered why we hadn't gone the whole distance. Why hadn't we just crawled under Master's nuclear umbrella in the first place? Then we could spend our pocket money on other things (instead of bombs) and still be all safe and slavey. No?
Just before The Visit, the Government of India lifted import restrictions on 1,400 commodities including milk, grain, sugar and cotton (even though this year there was a glut of sugar and cotton in the market, even though 42.5 million tons of grain was rotting in government storehouses).
During The Visit, contracts worth about US $3 (some say 4) billion were signed.
For reasons of my own, I was particularly interested in a Memorandum of Intent signed between the Ogden Energy Group, a company that specializes in operating garbage incinerators in the US, and the S.Kumars, an Indian textile company that manufactures what it calls "suiting blends". Now what might garbage incineration and suiting blends possibly have in common? Suit-incineration? Guess again. Garbage-blends? Nope. A big hydel dam on the river Narmada in central India.
Neither Ogden nor the S.Kumars has ever built or operated a large dam before. The 400 MW Shri Maheshwar Hydel Project being promoted by the S.Kumars is part of the Narmada Valley Development Project, which boasts of being the most ambitious river valley project in the world. It envisages building 3,200 dams (30 big dams, 135 medium dams and the rest small) that will reconstitute the Narmada and her 41 tributaries into a series of step reservoirs?an immense staircase of enslaved water. It will alter the ecology of an entire river basin, affect the lives of 25 million people who live in the valley, submerge 4,000 sq km of old growth, deciduous forest, hundreds of temples, as well as archaeological sites dating back to the lower Paleolithic age.
The dams that have been built on the river so far are all government projects. The Maheshwar Dam is slated to be India's first major private hydel power project. What is interesting about it is not only that it's part of the most bitterly opposed river valley project in India, but also that it is a strand in the skein of a mammoth global enterprise. Understanding what is happening in Maheshwar, decoding the nature of the deals that are being struck between two of the world's great democracies, will go a long way towards gaining a rudimentary grasp of what is being done to us, while we, poor fools, stand by and clap and cheer and hasten things along. (When I say "us", I mean people, human beings. Not countries, not governments.)
Personally, I took the first step towards arriving at this understanding when, over a few days in March this year (2000 AD), I lived through a writer's bad dream. I witnessed the ritualistic slaughter of Language as I know and understand it. Let me explain. On the very days that President Clinton was in India, in far away Holland, the World Water Forum was convened. Three thousand and five hundred bankers, businessmen, government ministers, policy writers, engineers, economists (and, in order to pretend that the ?other side? was also represented?a handful of activists, indigenous dance troupes, impoverished street theater groups and half a dozen young girls dressed as inflatable silver faucets) gathered at The Hague to discuss the future of the world's water. Every speech was generously peppered with phrases like ?women's empowerment?, ?people?s participation? and ?deepening democracy?. Yet it turned out that the whole purpose of the Forum was to press for the privatization of the world's water. There was pious talk of having access to drinking water declared a Basic Human Right. How would this be implemented, you might ask. Simple. By putting a market value on water. By selling it at its "true" price. (It's common knowledge that water is becoming a scarce resource. One billion people in the world have no access to drinking water.) The ?market? decrees that the scarcer something is, the more expensive it becomes. So the talk of connecting human rights to a ?true price? was more than a little baffling. At first I didn?t quite get their drift?did they believe in human rights for the rich, or that only the rich are human or that all humans are rich? But I see it now. A shiny, climate-controlled human rights supermarket with a clearance sale on Christmas day. (A small but necessary clarification: there is a difference between valuing water and putting a market value on water. No one values water more than a village woman who has to walk miles to fetch it. No one values it less than urban folk who pay for it to flow endlessly at the turn of a tap.)
One marrowy American panelist put it rather nicely "God gave us the rivers," he drawled, "but he didn?t put in the delivery systems. That?s why we need private enterprise." No doubt with a little Structural Adjustment to the rest of the things God gave us, we could all live in a simpler world (If all the seas were one sea, what a big sea it would be...)?Evian could own the water, Rand the earth, Enron the air. Old Rumpelstiltskin could be the handsomely paid supreme CEO.
When all the rivers and valleys and forests and hills of the world have been priced, packaged, bar-coded and stacked in the local supermarket, when all the hay and coal and earth and wood and water has been turned to gold, what then shall we do with all the gold? Make nuclear bombs to obliterate what's left of the ravaged landscapes and the notional nations in our ruined world?
so your effort has not gone to waste :)
they're letting rogue Nubians and Welshmen deliver the headlines into our living rooms! How can we tell fact from the enemies' fork tongued deception?
Seriously creakyknees stop being an arsehole and divulge to us sheeple what we are missing. I promise you the chances of you being bundled off in the dead of night in an unmarked van as a result of you doing so are less than 70%
And I hate creaky just a tiny bit for ever starting this infuriating thread.
Surprised it took that long for creaky, frankly. The rest of you ought to be ashamed of yourselves.
i need to step up my game
If not, meh. I reckon it's a dolphin until I'm informed otherwise.
I just want creaky to clarify what it is so I can say if I've definitely, definitely seen it...
George Alagiah has grown a tiny set of testes on his left cheek. You have to squint really hard to see them though.
So that's it. Show's over folks.
breakfast thingy at the exact moment
Yeah - mental.
...on that anecdote.
This is not a presidential system. Last time I looked it was a parliamentary system and El Presidente Salmondo needs to think again.
Moira Stuart was brilliant!
Prince William is getting married!
Can't believe /none/ of you picked up on his headsup about the obvious warnings in the news about Osama's upcoming assasination.
So obvious. And none of you got it.
its other people like you who keep bumping it.
Its no good me telling people what it is, they have to see it for themselves, if i just tell them then they won't believe it necessarily, or will not realise why/how it is true and inescapable......anyway I'll let you all know when to pay attention again......(the news has had a few distractions recently)