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You Can't Have Cigarettes On Display?
Customer-can i get a twenty pack of Benson and Hedges?
Shopkeeper-*reaches under the counter* yes.
was pish. you just ask them what you want and they give you them
AND THEY TOLD YOU THEY DIDNT SELL CIGARETTES
no, but i broke my leg when i was younger.
the kind of shop that normally sells booze
Plain packaging too.
That's a shame, I'll miss the guy with a pervy long moustache on Amber Leaf with a massive tumour hanging out of his throat.
IF YOU SMOKE YOU WILL GET THIS MOUSTACHE
i think they mean no sly and expensive logos or fancy colours. therell still be interesting and graphic photos...
labelled exactly like that in Repo Man.
I bought some, it was shit.
this'll give a lot of newsagents a headache. They might have to stock a smaller range...and employ some kind of menu system for the 14 year olds that don't know any brand names.
D'you wanna buy some fegs?
they just keep them in a cupboard behind the cashdesk.
I'm imagining Falco shouting this over a really filthy bass line
*so you want to make our product, which we try to market to idiot teenagers, more illicit, making those who smoke daring, sexy and sticking it to the man? Ok then*
See also, cigarette case manufacturers.
but I'm talking about "getting them young" which has been the business model for the tobacco industry, yes overall sales may go down, but the most important thing has to be perpetuaing smoking, which this could help.
There will always be a certain number of people who will do it but denormalising it in any way will put off more people than will be attracted by it.
I'd say it was much more to do with what Theo says below, than the shiny packets and advertisments in shops. I think the adverts only help once you are already smoking because you make the connection in your mind, whereas kids start smoking for a whole host of more complex reasons.
All attempts to denormalise smoking so far have resulted in a reduction of smoking as far as I'm aware. My gut feeling is this will too, whether it's the government's role to do it, hmm... probably not.
"By choosing to smoke we're showing we're old enough to make our own decisions."
"It can look sexy."
So it's not that complex, really. It's effectively a combo of peer pressure and the misguided notion that smoking is an adult thing. Fuelled by a little bit of that feeling of live forever immortality that most kids/youths have.
But, as the advertisin gfella said on the news last night, 'ilicit substances' sold in plain out-of-sight packages kinda blurs the boundaries between cigs and other stuff that's been classified as illegal.
And all of this is obviously part of a process of various steps. But will the next step be to attempt to ban cigarettes or to legalise, say, cannabis under the same heavy duty restrictions as cigs?
So you could argue that there's potentially a hyposcrisy going on.
I don't smoke, so I'm not that fussed in terms of an impact on me, but I find it a rather interesting game to see played out - where the gov decides to accept the reality that banning cigs isn't realistic just now, but the ban on cannabis allegedly is?
I mean NOTHING stops kids wanting to do something like making it all secret and special and mysterious and only available to adults, right? Yeah, right.
And this is just a form of prohibition.
They (the government) make too much from taxation to ban tobacco products outright, know that fags will move immediately and directly onto the black market and thereby help fund TEH BAD TERRORISM and other criminal types.
If they were less inclined to want both the health improvement of the population AND the taxation then they'd just go ahead and ban all sales of tobacco on health grounds. That'd set a bad precedent, would lead to an increase in smuggling, would also shine a light on what they'd try to ban next (alcohol, fatty foods, microwave ovens, combustion engines, PCB's, etc, etc).
This is merely an easy target and a way to get overzealous niche lobbyist cunts like ASH off of their back and punt some cash into their coffers in the form of party donations.
"Of course we're dedicated to improving quality of life, we're trying to stop people smoking" Whilst at the same time, cutting health care across the board. Fucking outrage.
Having said that, I think it might in some small way deter the littler ones. I'd maybe have never started smoking if I hadn't suddenly noticed that the icecream shop also sold coconut ice sweeties and 'berkeley bombers' and decided to see what the fuss was all about. That pivotal moment of loss of innocence. I blame the fairground which was in town.
Damn researchers and their FACTS.
in which a counter-survey (the one the tobacco industry keeps citing) is pretty much debunked:
And as I said above, i think it might help those who haven'y already started. However, if you have a 40-a-day habit (arguably the peopel who need the most help in giving up) then lack of a display isn't going to mean that you suddenly stop going into WH smith's each day to buy your 2 packs of fags.
the kind that get to the counter, see the cigarettes and think, "Oh, I'll get myself 20 while I'm here."