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(where this ramifies into interesting insights into or comments on law/punishment/authority/power and stuff like that).
Land before time
I AM THE DISTORTED VERSION OF THE LAW, THAT CURRENTLY EXISTS BECAUSE THE NORMAL RULE OF LAW IS ABSENT.
I need to come up with a "clear thesis" but atm I just hvae lots of smaller stuff to say but nothing big and unifying or all the cool, smaller points I wanna make.
I HATE COMING UP WITH MY OWN ESSAY QUESTIONS.
i dunno i just watched that the other week it was really good
alongside this maybe http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0095468/
don't blow it
on the other hand.
Except maybe 12 Angry Men.
of many examples of genuine retribution/judication, but it's an undercurrent that runs through every zombie film. Essentially zombie films are the human stories of people isolated and penned in by circumstance, with no contribution from the traditional judiciary states.
The first thing to note is that these groups of people are always looking towards somebody to take control, and tell them what to do or how to behave. But this is normally the leading male, so could be seen as a reliance on the traditional male hero trope in this type of genre film, if not the medium in general
it's often the case that there's some sort of power struggle within the group, such as between the soldiers and scientists in Day of The Dead. When this sort of tribalism comes into play then traditional morals/fear of punishment go out of the window, specifically in relation to the other tribe. But it's also aligned with the "baddie" trope/caricature of this type of film, which is a dramatic device as much as a human reflection.
the essential rule of these human interactions is "look after yours", so any group or individual who is seen as being a danger is dealt with in a manner equivalent to the normal judicial code. And though the dynamics are limited by the traditions of the genre there is always the need for someone to take control, and the resulting power tensions
another interesting example is The Mist remake, not a zombie film but another tale of a group trapped together by an external force. Here the traditional alpha male leader/democracy structure breaks down, and the group are drawn towards an evangelical Christian as their de facto leader. It's implied that in the absence of traditional law and guidance, the group seek out any stone set regulation they can get hold of to act as their lead. In this case, the blood and thunder old testament legislation. Thus, contemporary morals are abandoned
this will be usefule if I go down the INVADED BY LAWLESSNESS route.
Chronicles of Narnia
Its a little trial-ish maybe and its a pretty cool film
do wanna see that though.
This would be good if it wasn't kinda crap http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0116061/
i didn't actually like it that much thought it was just quite funny but maybe there's something there i dunno
Or where the law is totally ineffectual or non-existent, eg Once Upon A Time In The West
A specific interesting example is High Plains Drifter, where no one in the whole film is a "good guy" and no one follows the law.
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE do an essay on Waterworld, or The Postman VGW PLEASE.
i might watch it again
and posing like a girl?
1 & 2
Is a very interesting treatise on the idea of the rule of law.
WHen i originally saw this film i did not rate it much (cos clint isnt really in full man with no name mode)......but saw it last year and its really a very good film which makes you contemplate (who you had previously thought of as a bit of a nasty person (the judge)) is actually just being like that to impress upon people the rule of law...it also allows you to consider the idea of Marshal's (as opposed to sherrifs) roles in this....it emphasises that whatever, is a compromise as they did not have ultimate resource or control and that they were instead trying to create the idea of the long arm of the law in peoples conciousness......suprisingly deep intelligent film (got some clint moments in it as well though:) )
It essentially shows that capital punishment can be horrible and unfair, but that it was being used to create the idea of official justice, to deter vigilantieism and to make it seem that areas that were not fully under law and order, could appear to be madeto seem that they were.
- subconscious guilt (Lacan, Zizek), law and the self
- the therapeutic state (Szaz, Rd Laing, Foucault)
- law and religion and law as allegory and stuff
or maybe just something about dystopia and the future or soemthing.
don't know don't know don't kknow.
I've already got 1, 3 and 4 as possibilities. Will think about the rest.
can't be bothered trying to not sound sarcastic meh
Skim read it to find films they compare it to.
Feel ma payn :(
like ervtying I've read in this ridiculous made-up academic discipline of THE LAW AND FILM MOVEMENT is about how the movies 'prompt debate and discussion'. It's all complete intellectual self-indulgence and not very enjoyable self-indulgence at that.
Do you mean "problematises" in the sense that your thoughts on the subject are problematic in the face of general critical consensus? Or that you want to discuss problematic elements of the film? ie. the gaps and contradictions within a particular work? Or that you want to discuss "problems" (societal, judicial, psychological, wtv) the film brings up?
will you write my essay? thanks in advance fiona xx
time of the wolf could be about this and also funny games or maybe bennys video but maybe theyre more of a stretch idk
i was thinking maybe weekend but i wasn't sure.
good movie tho i feel like weekend is myabe more about consumer society and ppl who cant drive or sth
dogville maybe too
but its about lawyers in argentina during the military dictatorship and could be the right sorta vibe
i did not know that before now.
/Diary of a Shinjuku Thief a bit
Les Amants Criminels (lots of stuff about victim of crime administering their own punishment etc.)
/i guess the whole revenge genre does that too so, idk, Baise-Moi, Hard Candy, Audition/Ichi the Killer?
La Passion de Jeanne D'arc
The Anxiety of a Goalkeeper before a Goalkick
idk i'm struggling to think cause i have a pounding headache but im going to lie down and try and think of some then.
soz. my head hurts sooo much. i can't remember.
^ to Alphaville/other dystopian things.
in some sense distorted? And also in some part of it is 'absent'? As the Rule of Law is an abstract concept and therefore can only be understood allegorically? So there is an emptiness present whenever it is depicted? Like, it could never be depicted in its totality, nobody can ever grasp it, this is what makes it so powerful/means that any depiction of it is essentially alienating (even 'positive' depictions)
Just some thoughts, idk.
"a desire for justice and the capacity for experiencing something like indignation at injustice is a near universal feature of adult effective life" (William Miller)
You could look at how A Clockwork Orange/whichever other film you choose is essentially a pretty heavy-handed argument in favour an adequate legal system (and what do Burgess/Kubrick imply an adequate legal system would consist of?)
Or alternatively look at A Clockwork Orange as a film where lawlessness is seen as inherently bad and contrast it with a film where lawlessness/a lack of judicial structure is seen as a positive (not that any examples come to mind)
idk, that's probably how I'd approach it.
idk I guess my problem is I find this whole subject pretty trite generally. I want to write something interesting but the stipulation that it has to be ABOUT LAW is stifling my ability to.
I gave a takl in class about the concept of legal community in Fargo and what it all means in normative terms for the politics of recognition , radical legal pluralism etc. but the discussion afterwards just went back to like "yeah isn't it interesting how MArge is a woman"
I just don't think movies are that good as a "teaching tool" for these concepts (which is how most of the discourse justifies itself) sheeesh idk.
Might just write something really crude about theories of punishment or something zzzzz
I hate being restrained by a topic, and the advantage of picking your own is that you never can be.
But if you prefer to focus on a more precise topic then yes, definitely too broad.
Are there any limitations on what you can write on (I mean other than film + law)? I mean, how broad can you go?
what about this movie that's based on texts Foucault compiled or soemthing:
(i haven't actually seen it but read the summary. sounds good right?)
and Goto, Island of Love.
maybe Fireworks by Kenneth Anger. he gets sort of roughed up by these sailors for no reason, but at the same time he's kinda loving it. and there's all sorts of bad symbolism too. good film.
also Gohatto, Victim, Katyn and An Actor's Revenge, lots of film noirs like kiss me deadly, all sorts of Fassbinders...
Diary of a Chambermaid
but its really just called I, Pierre Rivierre:
I feel a little less abject for it.
to having loads of vague and conflicting ones and winds up being sort of shit at handing out punishment.
Or was that in Robocop 2?
There isn't really a rule of law within the community, just internal honour codes and the like.
'outsider culture' which polices itself.
Yakuza or other forms of gangster movies in particular.
Where there is no rule of law inside the Zone; or at least, if there is, the rules are unknown and only intuitable by stalkers, and the consequences of actions are unpredictable.