Yes, it's a thread about pornography...
I was reading a thread on another forum about porn, mainly regarding mainstream porn and whether the anal and bj-gagging that's become prevalent and pretty standard in the last couple of years has an effect on what men expect from a sexual encounter.
I'm not sure tbh, I don't expect anal (is prrrrrrretty messy unless there's been some 'prep' done and i've never been into scat), and don't get much from deep throat.
And most mainstram porn doesn't do it for me anyway (I prefer porn where the woman or women look and sound like they're enjoying it and where it doesn't look like a barbaric form of sexual abuse) so I'm not able to form an opinion other than 'no'.
So I put it to you, cardigan wearers, bellends and LADS! of DIS what's your opinion, have your expectations of sex been skewed by porn?
Also, Ladies of DIS, what's your experience of what men expect? Have your expectations of a sexual encounter been skewed by porn?
I fully expect,
Overcompensating cries of 'I DO NOT WATCH PORN, HOW DARE YOU'
Various 'your mum' and 'smash it' responses
Lack of adult discourse
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'Threadsmash'?
You forgot that one.
Maybe something also about how easy it is for a cameltoe to pass through the japseye of a weiner-needle?
I think younger kids are getting a tainted view on what sex should be about
i think they think it should be all angry and put on like a big show. There probably is a lot of pressure from what kids see in porn. If thats what they watch then they will automatically think that it is the way it should be.
I watch quite a lot of porn myself. Ive never got the whole shitting on someone thing though. I think it would turn my stomach. Other things i dont mind though..
as for what people expect. Ive not had many random encounters other than relationships. But of those random ones i did have.. only one was a total freak in the bedroom.
I watch quite a lot of porn myself. Ive never got the whole shitting on someone thing though. I think it would turn my stomach.
that sentence is pure lolza!
there were some young kids behind me on the bus arguing
what anal meant. They decided anal meant fanny, not 'butt sex'.
They then tried to see if anyone had watched porn and if anyone seemed a bit shifty they totally ripped them to pieces :D
:D
young kids behind me
We all know you're talking about yourself.
When I tried to do ass to mouth with my first girlfriend (I was 14) she threw up all over my balls.
I blame porn.
You're a monster.
the liar king probs
14 year old LAD
post of the week
weeks ago
My views are pretty much the same as yours
espoused in your second paragraph, xheathenx.
I guess I perhaps have slightly more 'adventures than average' expectations of my sexual encounters which hasn't really happened from watching porn but more from having different experiences with previous sexual partners.
I'm not really into anal although it can be good in the right moment and it depends on whatever you and your sexual partner are into/find hot at that time, as with everything.
I have noticed more women saying they like to be cum on their faces which not sure if thats just a case of me seeing more 'kinky' women/getting a bit older or whether they expect that to be a satisfier for me?
yeah facials seem to be a pre-requiste in porn
from personal experience I find that ladies would rather have it shot on their bellies or into a hoodrat rather than into their face and getting all stuck up in their hair.
I find a lot of women are hardwired to please and in some freudish way gain pleasure from pleasing
But this can be the same for all humans. We just happen to be talking about women liking cum on their faces.
I don't know to what extent porn impacts on peoples sex life.
But there is definitely an argument to be made that people seek out more and more 'extreme' pornography as they become blase to what they're used to, and I don't see that being healthy. For example, if you went on one of the biggest sites like xhamster, and clicked on the most popular videos, very few would be two attractive people having sex - most are probably pupporting to be incest or some shit.
JFingC
D:
What really saddens me here is that the most sexual contact I've had in months
is HoFo constantly grabbing my arse at Zonino.
:(
I like Tumblr.
Honest love, it's only for reference. Do you want me to show you what I've learnt?
For fuck's sake Dis.
the comedy removal of most of a post is becoming a pain in the arse.
it dumped everything bar the bit in quotes. what a fucking cunt.
deepervalley is pretty good
that is all
I think the main effect it's had since the late 90s/early 00s
is to create a pressure for girls to be a lot...er...tidier, shall we say, downstairs.
a pretty sizeable contingent of the girls that I knew at school and ones at uni have a brazilian or it all off (not that I know first hand, but they're mostly quite open about it and/or guys chatting to each other) and I think the taboo has reduced massively in that department, to the extent that in some circles there's a stigma attached to having too much of a bush. Which is kind of unfair, but it cuts both ways: I suspect now more than ever guys are going down on girls more frequently, as the experience is more pleasant and less daunting
my favourite porn
is when the couple really look like they are enjoying it, flushed faces and chests, some real passion and contact
i generally prefer watching a steamy lesbian encounter too than a ball sack flapping about
i
Bit of a generalisation about anal sex there.
Never had an issue with my girlfriend. Pretty sure she hasn't nipped out for an enema before each time as well.
^this
I would imagine 'not doing it when you think you're virtually touching cloth' is probably the only precaution needed.
As to the general point made- yes, I think we are desensitised, not just from exposure to porn, but in so many sensory experiences that are available to us now, ut haven't always been there. Whether this is agood or bad thing is another thread.
I find that most porn is so cliched and silly that it makes me laugh. I think this is good though- sex is pretty funny after all. In the past I've sought out harder/ weirder stuff, then been demoralised and given up altogether for a while, and now I'm at the stage where I very rarely look at porn, other than to look at lovely bouncing boobs, really. And dwarves, obviously.
always with the dwarves >:-(
the guys on the demunitive end of the height thread will all be proffering their gnomic services shortly.
That's right. I really watch dwarves, all the time *eye roll*
...our laptop history reveals much about your twilight browsing after
I've passed out for the night.
"Dwarfsexytimegonow", in six separate searches? REALLY?
:D
Well, if you wouldn't pass out before satisfying your lady...
*from; *constantly.
Right this moment, meowington is making a voodoo doll of you
I was reading De Sade the other day and it certainly struck me that
it probably wouldn't have been a great idea for the majority of the populace to read it, lest it completely had distort expectations and desires etc.
But I more suspect that seeing things like that on a screen are an ignition of something that's been relatively dormant but still *there* all along. You're either a bit of a perv or you're not IMO, and only need to be given a starter for 10 like a dodgy abusive video to get fully into the swing of things and have your horizons (and bumholes) broadened.
I guess what I'm getting at is that
there are people who are always going to want/expect odd things in bed, and they'll likely be feeling like that even without encouraging literature/AV-titulation. See?
awwwwwwwwwwwwwww FIX
porn.
I hope I'm not the only person who foolishly reads these threads and thinks
Gosh, I really wasted my teens on SEGA games, huh...?
Surely you had plenty of time to devote to gaming, porn AND music?
I know i managed to cram all three into my teen years without much issue.
like a dog in the bath
I think I've decided porn is pretty bad for people as a whole
But more in the destroying intimacy way than the SOCIETY IS COLLAPSING way.
Those two things most likely are covariates, don't you think?
Maybe
I'm just not as bothered by society is collapsing. I'm a big softie really, me.
tori black
Ashlynn brooke
Stoya
sasha
Monique Alexander
Thanks.
I've literally no idea who one of those people might be
*wikipedia's names on the list (aside from sasha grey obvs)*
observations
both Tori Black and Sasha Grey are younger than me
Ashlynn Brooke was also in pirahana 3D
Kayden Kross looks like a mainstream film star
Stoya looks a bit wow and she has quite an interesting heritage going on(Serbian, Scottish AND Puerta Rican)
Stoya
<3<3<3
She looks more than 'a bit wow' in my opinion.
She always looks like she's having a really fun time too. She giggles a lot. Even with a willy in her pinky and her stinky at the same time.
I'm sure they're lovely and everything, but these women really can't fucking spell.
they have porn on the internet now?
they have the internet on computers now
Dunno about porn
But 4chan definitely has fucked up my expectations
Can't look at a picture of a pretty girl anymore without thinking "I wonder if it has a cock"
That's probably a sensible thing to wonder about in this day and age.
It's always best to prepare for bonus meat.
i haven't watch pornography since august last year...
i think i feel better for it. but i wouldn't say i'm reformed or owt because whenever i have a wank i usually desperatly try and picture some of the graphic images i used to invite into my home.
as for its impact on real world sex....CHANCEWOULDBEAFINETHING
i genuinely can't picture an instance in which i might ever have sex again. i just can't see it happening.
seinfeld reference?
always trot it out, sad thing is that it's true.
:D
How's about James Joyce's filthy letters to Nora Barnacle?
DOWN BOY!
http://loveletters.tribe.net/thread/fce72385-b146-4bf2-9d2e-0dfa6ac7142d
just in case you can't be bothered to read, here's a highlighted passage
(no pun intended)
At every fuck I gave you your shameless tongue came bursting out through your lips and if a gave you a bigger stronger fuck than usual, fat dirty farts came spluttering out of your backside. You had an arse full of farts that night, darling, and I fucked them out of you, big fat fellows, long windy ones, quick little merry cracks and a lot of tiny little naughty farties ending in a long gush from your hole. It is wonderful to fuck a farting woman when every fuck drives one out of her. I think I would know Nora's fart anywhere.
That's the least arousing thing I've ever read
so many amazing sentences
:
Perhaps the horn I had was not big enough for you for I remember that you bent down to me face and murmured tenderly "Fuck up, love! Fuck up, love!"
No, fuck UP you idiot
you'll just have to imagine the quote marks
I am delighted to see that you do like being fucked arseways
Darling, I came off just now in my trousers so that I am utterly played out
This fucking thread
Get it? Fucking?
Alright serious response
I can't "use" "normal" pornography. You know how the camera man and the guy always talk and they make it sound like they are commentating on a particularly promising piece of joinery? I just...can't feel it. Pictures and stories, yes. Those really disgusting Japanese cartoons, even. It's like the more unreal it is the more it's just my imagination filling things in and the less it's a pink and wobbly cookery show.
Has it made me more desensitised in real life? I don't think so. It's like asking whether or not knifing some cunt on TF2 and laughing uproariously as I did so two years ago makes me actually likely to do that in real life now. Modern life is about these separate bubbles of activity which have absolutely nothing to do with each other, where the self which sits masturbating to a dumpy chick off Suicide Girls cannot recognise the guy who just about got the data sets looking reasonably ok for the Friday deadline who cannot recognise the guy who went to 42nd that night and copped off with a decent looking archaelogy student by pretending to be a music journalist but ended up listening sympathetically about her shitty father somewhere in Hulme at 1 in the morning.
The world has gotten a lot more surreal in the last ten years but I think a lot of people willfully underestimate the average human being's ability to compartmentalise.
that's not really what desensitize means.
i'm willfully hopeful that your last sentence is true.
I'm drunk
so fuck off, yeah
^this to the final paragraph
Great post
how did I know that this thread would take off during the evening shift?
SRS ANSWER
i am generally wary of any 'depiction causes emulation' arguments - as xylopwn pointed out, extreme porn is probably as much an effect as a cause - but the majority of porn does perpetuate, in a very overt way, incredibly horrible gender discourse and i find it a bit weird that most of the replies to this thread have barely acknowledged that. i mean i don't think porn 'causes' misogynism or necessarily alters most people's 'expectations' of real life sex, but i do think this is a very bizarre and unsettling culture where men who are otherwise nice, intelligent, relatively feminist people can watch this degrading shit for kicks and not feel disturbed by it. (obviously i'm not talking about porn as a concept here, just the vast majority of 'mainstream' porn aimed at straight men)
first porn i ever watched
was the Paris Hilton thing aged 14. jack greenwood had a pc in his room and he'd been downloading it for about a week.
i love being part of the iNtErNeT GeNreation
I think the thing is- there's a time and a place to feel disturbed or concerned about things
and 'with dick in hand' doesn't feel like one of that times.
I am uncomfortable with the degrading aspect of porn, but I guess I am a hypocrite.
i've been using the internet for porn for over 10 years
(started when i was about 12) and i used to do kinky cybering and watch japanese bukkake. so i started in the deepish end, and i'm pretty sure i've seen all that there is, or at least cannot be shocked even slightly.
but despite that i feel my sex life and attitude towards sex is pretty normal and healthy
except for the time i got so horny i mummified my cock and balls in sellotape
that was a low point.
Whenever you next get the urge to add a second,
Contextualising post to your previous one, for the love of all that is good, don't.
i cant watch anything which involves major porn stars
because its all anal and bukkake and crap like that. I mean im not opposed to anal or anything, just when they pull their anii apart and gob in it and all the other nasty stuff which loads of people seem to love, i dont get it. Theres still good amatuer stuff though obv.
i would gues nearly all do
it seems to be the most popular type of porn judging by porn sites. I just dislike that style. The guys are always major douchebags who like to talk to much and the girls are skanks for the most part. Where as with the homemade stuff, its shittier quality but you can find girls who actually dont look like pron stars but actually are hotter and you dont get a million close ups of a guys ball sack or a gaping anus. Also with the amatEUr stuff i can at least pretend its real.
bleurgh
feel a bit sick now.
sorry, but...anii?
okay enough fannies and whatnot
i feel like offering a gay perspective on things.
i may well have a fairly unusual gay perspective - if i hear someone talking about their weight or their "abs" or going to the gym or working out it just entirely puts me off having anything to do with that person, the whole gay body obsession i find utterly tedious, give me guy with a good looking face and a decent personality and as long as the body isnt at some fucked up and/or unhealthy extreme (ie anorexically thin/obesely fat/super-ultra-steroidy-muscular/whatev) i'll probs take it.
but as such i don't find the guys in the majority of porn that attractive, all muscly and toned and shaved and waxed and American with their short little wanker haircuts. i like long hair on a guy okay :( your choice is mostly either that, or bears - now i have nothing whatsoever against (moderately) chubby dudes and im definitely a fan of body hair but your porno bears are always about 50, balding, obese, and INEVITABLY rimming someone. WHICH IS ANOTHER THING. Rimming doesnt appeal to me one bit. either giving or receiving. I don't like how its become so totally mainstream to stick your tongue up someone's arse that it features in pretty much every gay porno ever made.
i also like having a decent view of the whole thing - not just a close up shot of an anonymous knob going up an anonymous arse. and call me a big poof but i prefer it when it looks like the guys are really into each other and enjoying the whole business, kissing and whatnot, and not just grumpily going through the motions with someone they hate, for money. amateur stuff like on xtube etc kind of appeals to me in that regard since itll often be a couple filming themselves at it, so they naturally will be into each other and theyll also probably look more, yknow, *real* than standard porno guys. but idk, maybe im one of the few gays who feels this way, judging from the popularity of stuff like manhunt and grindr and all those other ways to just get a quick fuck with someone who only posts a photo of themselves from the neck down. is porn to blame for that? or is it just catering to the demand that already exists. i dunno.
dinner?
:D
I found exactly this when I was looking for gay porn
and when I was in a relationship with a guy and going out on the scene.
Body fascism, tokenism, people accepting stereotypes and reinforcing the same. Blandly sexualised, cliched and banal. And the porn wasn't much better.
Did anyone listen to that Jacqui Smith thing on 5Live that the BBC have been banging on about?
She's on Radio 2 now and is winding me the fuck up, so I probably couldn't manage to sit through the whole thing but I'm vaguely interested what anyone else has to say about it if they've heard it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coolidge_effect
Interesting..
."i don't get much from deep throat"
you seem to be mixing up deep throat with fucking a girl's throat
very different
I know the difference
but if your johns are having difficulty with it, maybe you could enlighten them.
Yeah too right.
I was watching some porn the other day. I Had a massive erection and came everywhere.
so what's the conclusion of this thread? right minded people can enjoy porn healthily but a few people have started strangling their sexual partners because of porn?
There didn't seem to be a conclusion.
Which is the DiS way.
hmmm, we need to start getting more of these into the black
i'll conclude.
everyone try not not strangle someone during sex unless the specifically asked you to do it beforehand. that also goes for waking someone up by putting your erection down their throat
i think that's fair.
Just use the same frame of mind for watching porn as you would for watching jackass.
It might look exciting on the screen, but it might not be so clever for you to do it in real life.
solid
Porn is ace
Giggity
I bet this thread is excrutiating.
it worked fine,
it has people admitting to watching scat and sellotaping their balls.