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So what are everyone's thoughts on this then?
Why must you turn everything into your love life?
NEXT: onetruepresident complains about conservative trolling.
Don't get your knickers in a twist. Its called a joke.
or are you joking too now? internet confusion :(
I'm disappointed in you.
Come on, what am I logically and humanitarian-ly supposed to think about it?
if he was being a fucker and needed restraining then fair enough really, you can't just let him get away with it because he's in a wheelchair, and I can't imagine the police just doing it for no reason, as it'd cause massive controversy, because of the wheelchair, they'd probably be overly cautious about things like that to be honest.
it sounds like they were concerned by him being right at the front near the riot police
The article doesn't seem to have any input from the police though, just a statement of wheelyman, his bro and some random student, I'd like to hear what the police have to say before judging really.
don't be a hater.
is him getting his own article when everyone else that undoubtedly got beaten by police don't get their own individual articles.
I couldn't be arsed to tab back over to the article to check his name, and 'wheelyman' sounds better than 'the guy in the wheelchair'
I cba to argue though - ahm oot.
And arguing on the internet is far less fun.
But calling him 'wheeleyman' was never meant in an offensive way or anything, was in jest.
SOMEWHERE IN THE MIDDLE
disabled people- twats
Is there any need for that?
racism doesn't exist anymore, does it? He should probably do something more productive like post on internet message boards like this one.
an obscure blogger reporting the comment of another blogger who claims to know the brother of the alleged victim.
he;s told the same story on his own blog and there are some vague pictures. cba googling it tho. and i don't know whether that makes it more corroborated.
what have you got to say about it?
I am going to make it my business to find out your real name and get you banned from practising medicine before you've even started.
some of these threads are hard work
The riot police laying on special buses full of old people and ferrying them into the centre of the crowds just so they could push them over to the floor.
he's just given an interview with his account which, if true, is damning of the police involved.
So, some options:
- the police were given no instructions on how to deal with disabled protestors
- the police were given instructions not to use violence against defenceless protestors in wheelchairs and the officers in question disobeyed
- the police were given instructions to use violence against people in wheelchairs
don't know which is the worst.
Can't quite believe some people don't think this is really serious and a probably harbinger of more depressing incidents.
I think the government is punishing the police for being too close to Labour...
you seen this?
that is disgusting. Imagine how humiliating that must have been for him. Horrible.
him and his travelling buddy get to edinburgh castle and his travelling buddy is an artist and starts taking sketches of the castle and a policeman comes to tell him hes not allowed to for security reasons
I hope it will not be shunned by men and women on that account, for part of my plan has been to try to pleasantly remind adults of what they once were themselves, and of how they felt and thought and talked, and what queer enterprises they sometimes engaged in.
thought it was pretty good but probs the least child friendly childrens book ever?
can you actually watch this and not feel horrified?
truly grim viewing
the comments here
are some of the most accurate rendering of the situation I've read
from comment #3
"In situations like this, the police lie. All the time. A policeman who's own horse throws him at a Climate Camp was 'dragged down by protesters'. Rather than admitting they initially refused to come to Ian Tomlinson's aid, they said they were 'subjected to a barrage of bottles and other objects'. When footage showed this as a lie, they then said that Tomlinson collapsed of a heart attack. if footage had not been taken, of an officer whipping him with a metal stick for not moving fast enough, their lies would never have been exposed.
De Menezes: suspicious heavy coat, jumped the ticket barriers, ran onto the train, hand in pocket, the only option was to shoot - all lies, told deliberately to pervert the course of justice.
Maybe in 30 years time they'll tell the truth, like Blair Peach, but of course then it will be water under the bridge, not worth following up the admissions of perverting the course of justice, and of course murder."
and so they're eyeing up water cannon for the next sub-zero kettle
embarrassing. are you a grown man? i thought people grew out of this shit when they were 16 citizen?
can you explain your response?
but no-one could argue the pictures don't speak for themselves.
It seems to me the whole things an utter mess. Ultimately the police tactics are clearly wrong and seem to be based around an assumption of violent conflict at any moment which ultimately creates the violent conflict. Whilst you can't play down the fact there has been violence from protesters at previous marches - and whilst I sympathise with anyone who has to face a large angry mob - there's a lot on that film that's unjustifiable by any standard.
Ultimately the police are human and it doesn't hugely surprise me that some of the 30, 000 there crack and lose control as they're in a high pressure environment but that certainly doesn't excuse it and certainly doesn't justify any covering up of their actions. Nor does it address the fact that the issue isn't just a minority of violent officers but massive questions about the Met's tactics for dealing with these protests. Certainly I remember during the Iraq protests a few years back the police took a much more relaxed informal approach and, so far as I recall, there wasn't any violence and it does seem this is an approach with invites violence.
The one area where I do sympathise with the police is the fact they inevitably get the blame for anything that does wrong, regardless of their fault. I think the fact that they end up being blamed for, say, the attack on Charles and Camilla's car does put them under a huge amount of pressure and only serves to heighten tensions and stress levels during protests making this sort of thing even more likly.
that one's pretty mundane but it was the most impartial one I could find and generally gives a scale of what's going on - the kettling on Westminster bridge at the end was just a sadistic tactic to be honest
there are other, much more brutal clips on the
the Police Commisioner should fucking walk instead of coming out at 7am the next day in his finest brass buttons to steal the PR march
The way the whole thing is Policed makes it quickly descend into 1 force versus another force and all sense that these are individuals goes out of the window
Kettling should be banned - if there's an anarchist element being violent and causing criminal damage they should be removed to protect police, protesters, property and the peace
public order offences there.
and even if he was really doing his best to be a monstrous dick, I don't really see how the police could possibly be intimidated by him (and obviously they weren't...).
can't we all be friends?
you'd all be laughing your tits off.
I think this might be where you're going wrong.
during these protests that if your views are popular you should be allowed to behave however you wish and i do not like it one bit.
for reading our minds as well as dictating a hypothetical scenario. you're a pal, keep it up. you cock.
long may it reign
and I'm including some people who are still my friends in this (albeit a lot more loosely for my part). Indeed, a bit of casual racism seems to be required too, which I find especially depressing when it comes from someone who was really left-wing when she was 14 (I mean Anti-Nazi League levels, which of course everyone grows out of but still). Anyways, I digress. Also knew a bloke who ended up being the Chief Constable for our area - he was a cunt. So, yeh, police aye?
Its borderline Brass Eye in terms of the questioning
'You were not wheeling yourself towards the police'?
"Do you really think a person in a police chair with cerebal palsy can pose a thread to an armed police officer?"
"But you call yourself a revolutionary."
which would be fair enough actually if they grilled the Police and politicians in the same manner
but they don't
The BBC journalists do tend to grill everyone in a similar "ask difficult questions, misinterpret the answers and then criticise them for not responding whilst giving them no time to respond" sort of way. I'd say politicans and police get it as much as protesters do.
certainly not with the Police anyway
It is true that there are journalist who put individual interviewees on the spot with prejudice but they can be counted on one hand
The PR machine has it all worked out though. There are never one on ones for tricky situations, always press conferences called by the authority with a spokesperson who defers difficult questions by saying things like 'I can't comment on the specifics of that questions but I will say this...' and then wheels out their carefully prepared spin for the 4th or 5th time
The Police PR machine was really in 5th gear last Friday morning
It's probably the exact reason why the police avoid them if possible but they'd definitely get similar treatment in the same situation.
"My officers were subject to flying sticks and paint ball attacks"
"But your officers were charging students on horseback 30 at a time. Don't you think the students have a right to defend themselves?"
"Look, the amount of violence perpetrated on my officers was unacceptable and..."
"So you think it's acceptable to smash unarmed protester's skulls in with your truncheons until they require life-saving brain surgery?"
can't see it happening
Possibly not that exact line but they would absolutely get a similarly style of questioning. I can't be arsed to look for examples as I was meant to finish my lunchbreak 5 minutes ago but they use pretty much the same style of questioning on all their guests.
It's meant to be edgy and confrontational but mostly means the guests spend the entire time defending themselves from a journalist deliberately misunderstanding their position so all but the most slippery fail to actually get their opinion across.
But certainly I've seen police and politicans interviewed by interrorgator-y Paxman-esque journalist shitloads of times and get equally hammered with stupid questions with no time to speak actual sentences.
The question was whether or not Howard had threatened to overrule the head of the prison service re. the dismissal of a prison governor.
and not just being a comedy clown troll?
if a guy tells you that he is physically unable to push his own wheelchair, you might drop the question of 'were you throwing rocks at the police?'
that i have ever been moved to lodge a complaint, about anything, ever. bbc are already having to respond to the number of complaints apparently.
He asked some utterly fucking ridiculous questions though.
in the cuts/fees debate: vikram and thebeautifulones.
FOR NO REASONS DAMNIT
he's the stereotype of the trust fund leftie that the CG's of this world cream themselves over.
his strong free speech/anti-censorship views often put him at loggerheads with the 'ban anything that might offend anyone' lefty stereotypes
has been TheBeautifulOnes asking someone to give an opinion backed up by thought and evidence...
That cunt from the Daily [Hate] Mail, Richard Littledick, compares the guy with Andy from Little Britain. Anyone who buys that excuse for a newspaper is a vile human being.
without wanting to go into kneejerk liberal mode...what a cunt
god I hate him
That's the kind of extended unfunny 'joke' that someone you work with tells at the pub but he is your boss and you want to say something but you know it'll just make your life difficult and won't change anything and so you just do an awkward little laugh along with everyone else and another tiny piece of you dies inside
it reads like a spoof LittleJohn article.
what a total fucking piece of shit
"Wheelchair-bound Jody Mcintyre has complained that he was beaten and manhandled by police during last week’s student fees protests.
But if he’s looking for sympathy, he’s come to the wrong place.
A man in a wheelchair is as entitled to demonstrate as anyone else. But he should have kept a safe distance."
yeah it was definitely his fault