The Social Network
I know it doesn't come out properly on the 15th, but it's being previewed in a bunch of places and I just saw it.
Thoughts?
My main one was that I'd never thought I'd say "Justin Timberlake deserves an Oscar" but if anything he should be nominated, he played his character perfectly and was one of the best things about the film.
Any film that gets 97% on Rotten Tomatoes pre-release is going to be overhyped though, and this is no exception. Still, great.
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Timberlake is superb
I was genuinely surprised. Everyone in it is superb, really. I think it's the first time Eisenberg doesn't come across as a budget Michael Cera.
I proper enjoyed it. The dialogue is as sharp as you expect, the narrative manages to jump around without being a total mess, the music is great, an all round class film.
I think Eisenberg has been pretty good in the past
in Roger Dodger, The Squid and the Whale and Adventureland anyway.
I'll be seeing this next weekend with any luck.
It's not that he's not been good,
I've just never seen him in a role that couldn't have been filled by the Ceranator.
Eisenberg is a much finer dramatic actor than
Cera. It's pretty obvious.
at various points in the film do the characters say
"I like this" or proclaim to everyone that they are now friends or no longer in a relationship? I really feel this would add to the film and wouldn't make it in anyway farcical or become tired at all.
There are actually a couple of those.
i really don't care about Facebook (at all)
but like Fincher and Timberlake
hmm
Obligatory calling-complete-and-utter-bollocks comment
Saw a preview showing tonight, too.
As I said in the previous fred http://drownedinsound.com/community/boards/social/4268288 ...the critics spaffing themselves over it made me want to watch this rather than the shockingly bad trailer.
It schlepped along at a fair pace. People said Scott Pilgrim was a fast film but I was fine with it, whereas this demanded much more of your close attention if you want to keep up - sometimes the dialogue was spat out so fast I had trouble catching it all.
It pretty much did what it set out to do as well it could've. i.e turn a story based around computer coding and a legal wrangle into an engaging human story. The lead is shown as a not particularly appealing person, but you find yourself rooting for him in the face of some pretty gash personalities.
Eisenberg does a really really great job of playing the flawed Zuckerberg. But looks a bit too much (but not really) like Simon Amstell.
Timberlake does a decent job of playing a dual-edged character.
The villainous twins are particularly tragi-comic. Can't believe that SPOILER-BUT-NOT-REALLY they were both played by the same person.
There were quite a few proper laugh out loud moments that I didn't see coming.
Can't quite sign up to the 90+% view of the critics, but I can go along with the mid 80s% viewer rating average.
There's a chance I might even go and see it again, which is something I've barely ever done.
still mulling over it this morning.
i'd only really seen the review scores and skim read them. but i've just gone back and actually read some. a few are saying that it's a hatchet job on Zuckerberg. can't really see it myself. yeah, he's flawed, but he's surrounded by a shower of bastards and incompetents deserving of much more contempt.
I am a bit half and half about seeing this
Mainly because of the obscene jealousy I feel knowing this is about a 26yr old guy who is now worth $6.9 billion just for starting some stupid website.
Saw this last night
Was a bit worried about the critical response but it lived up to it as well as it could - brilliantly scripted, Eisenberg was fantastic, there is no way (as much as I like him) that Michael Cera is capable of a turn like that so hopefully all references to him will be dropped from now on. I sat there with a pretty much permanent smile on my face, some of it was really laugh-out-loud funny, but it was pretty witty and incredibly engaging throughout. I'd happily give it a 9/10, can't think of a better film this year. And I thought the trailer was rubbish.
I was going to watch it
But i decided to look after my farm instead
definite must see for any fincher fans.
I love the way Fincher shoots his movies - you can tell when you're watching one of his movies. They henley regatta scene is beautiful to watch - shame it only lasts a few minutes.
The script is incredible, but that's what you've come to expect from sorkin. The "Winkle-vie" comment had me in stitches..
Not sure if Timberlake deserves an oscar nod or Eisenberg for that matter but both played their parts to perfection.
It was good, but not quite as strong as I'd been led to expect (I thought the trailer was great though).
The main performances were all great, the dialogue was strong, and I liked the jumpy narrative as Zuckerberg fends off people with (rightful) grudges against him. I had no idea Sean Parker was so involved with facebook (or at least, the film paints it that way).
A few points though:
Eduardo at the start was showing Mark the algorithim to make facemash, but near the end he was saying he couldn't even update his status profile - so was he intergral to the facebook idea, or was he just a clueless money man funding the tech genius?
Also, we see Mark throughout resisting monetarising facebook to try and keep it cool - at what point did he give in, and what persuaded him? It would have been interesting to see that in the film.
On a very similar note, he founded facebook on the premise of exclusivity (I remember being on it when it was only at Oxbridge and LSE) - at what stage did he feel it was suitable to roll it out to anyone?
Good film though, the Vinklevoss were a good comic relief, I thought it exposed the central premises of facebook - envy, jealousy, social climbing - very well.
"Eduardo at the start was showing Mark the algorithim to make facemash, but near the end he was saying he couldn't even update his status profile - so was he intergral to the facebook idea, or was he just a clueless money man funding the tech genius?"
I actually wondered about this myself.
"Also, we see Mark throughout resisting monetarising facebook to try and keep it cool - at what point did he give in, and what persuaded him?"
He still hasn't, on some levels. Facebook is still a private company, it's never been floated which is the way you make big bucks on a business, and it's very cagey about how much money it makes. They have advertising now, sure, but I think it's a matter of neccessity than any serious attempts to monetarise the site.
Yes, but people's one complaint about facebook now is the level of advertising.
Everything links to a page that better targets ads at you - the useabaility has slowly been ground down as ads become more and more central. That definitely goes against what Zuckerberg advocates in the film - so was there a point where Parker said: "Right, NOW'S the time for adverts", and did Zuckerberg resist?
can't believe the Vinklevoss' are actually the same guy, rather than real-life twins! what a mind-fuck.
incredible film. if Aaron Sorkin doesn't win every award going that script, the world is utterly fuct!
Yeah, I knew that before so it was a bit distracting...
I couldn't work out why they did it, surely they could have found actual twins?
Not quite:
It's the same guy's head, CGI'd onto someone elses body:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2010/oct/17/social-network-twins
wasn't he just lying to his scary crazy girlfriend
about not knowing how to update his status? But I did also get the impression that because Facebook had started to upset him, he wasn't really using it much.
I watched this on Saturday.
I am not qualified enough to offer an opinion any more deep than 'I enjoyed it quite a bit'.
better than Broken Arrow and Die Hard 3?
Somewhere between the two.
Which is where most films sit, let's be honest.
YOU went to the cinema?
Indeed I did.
A posh cinema as well, that Curzon on Shaftesbury Avenue. I'll level with you: the whole experience scared me a bit.
Was it a 6ish showing?
If it was, I went to the very same show. How about that.
What the absolute fuck?
You saw this film before me? You? I feel like I need to go and see Gresley when you're too busy, to redress the balance...
I was stuck in Cambridge this weekend in the rain
so we ducked in to catch a film until it passed. As it turned out, this was the only thing on in that timeslot. I knew nothing about any of the hype and the only thing I had any prior knowledge of was the really shitty trailer I'd seen before some other film a few weeks ago. Also, I've never used Facebook. So it's fair to say I wasn't overly enthusiastic.
I LOVED it. Hardly any fat on it. I can't back this up with any sort of examples or, you know, logic, but the film it most reminded me of was Almost Famous. Weird
i heart j timbz
http://www.ultraculture.co.uk/the-worlds-greatest-gif
i loved it
it was an unexpectedly gripping story and the 3 main actors were all amazingly believable, especially Andrew Garfield and Jesse Eisenberger. (Eisenberger really is a bizarre Cera/Amstell hybrid looks-wise though!)
While it was rarely laugh-out-loud funny it simmered at a really nice level of dry wit all the way through - classic Sorkin, really. It's also refreshing that while almost all the characters bar Eduardo were a shower of bastards to some extent or the other, it still felt like an incredibly human, positive film.
I thought it was really really good
excellent in parts
reminded me a lot of the book Masters of Doom about the creation of id software too which was nice
i found it pretty boring
then again i watched it in french so the more snappier dialogue was lost on me.
absolutely brilliant
excellent writing, maybe a little let down by 'eaten by the monster he created' symbolism at the end - the makers really don't like facebook very much! - all the characters really well written. No bagginess at all. Incredibly funny, am desperate to know how much is true/isn't true.
i liked this movie alot
http://gawker.com/5643915/mark-zuckerberg-describes-the-dirty-tricks-that-led-to-the-facebook-movie
i wonder if my life would be better if i didnt turn down that job offer at facebook
Every character was a total arsehole.
I kind of liked it.
Was interesting to see that (based on the film) the missus thought he blatantly stole the Winklevoss' idea whereas I wasn't really sold on that.
I thought it was excellent
Justin Timberlake is basically the devil in this, isn't he?
I guess he is.
To be honest I don't really have any particular love for JT so he could be just like that in real life for all I know. I wouldn't say the character of Sean Parker really stands out as an arsehole in this film, though. He isn't particularly nice but my class prejudices would put the Winklevoss brothers way ahead on the utter wankery scale.
I did enjoy it a lot but I'm not sure I'd watch much past the Facemash bit if I watched it again.
It was the scene in the club, really...
Parker's face is lit up by flashing red and purple strobe lights, a demonic grin upon his face. And then you look at how we meet him- after a one nightstand. He brings the hedonism and temptation into the film.
http://www.aceshowbiz.com/images/still/the_social_network09.jpg
I was thinking whilst watching
That there was a good Ed Norton's Character/Tyler Durden dynamic to the Zuckerberg/Parker relationship.
Ah I see.
Okay, yeah that's very true. I didn't realise you were being figurative. Or is it literal? Something like that. Anyway, yes, I see entirely what you're saying.
You having a laugh? Sean Parker was the most evil one by far.
Brilliant film btw.
Nah, he was just one of many.
I really liked it
and I was surprised how much I liked it as in theory it sounded like quite a dull film. It was very entertaining and really interesting.
Didn't like it that much
The dialouge was too clinical, too precise. Not at all believable.
That said, I really believed Justin Timberlake's character was an abominable arsehole. Can't think why ...
'The dialouge was too clinical, too precise'
That's Sorkin through and through, I thought the dialogue was the best part of it.
In that case I don't like Sorkin
The dialouge stopped the story really invloving me- people simply don't talk to each other that way. It was painfully clear that I was watching a film and not people. Which I obviously was, but it's better to not be so conscious of it.
I don't mind unrealistic dialogue I admit
If the artifice sounds good I tend to go with it.
I thought the soundtrack was noticably bad though, weird.