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Or not as the case may be.
you do mean a cagoule don't you ?
by using the very easily upgradable Mac Pro as their example rather than any of the other models.
but on the same note if your average consumer is given the choice to customize their mac on the site or source the components themselves and possibly run the risk of incompatibility issues chances are they'll opt to customize them on the site.
if they're buying a Mac Pro rather than an iMac. It's got 'Pro' in the name for a reason.
shouldn't translate to being able to overcharge by a difference of over 100% in some cases for off the shelf hardware and for a lot of other manufacturers it doesn't (see the tinyurl I posted).
Not to mention the customisation options for the IMacs are poor to say the least.
when all they needed for their purposes was an A4, you'd say it's a case of buyer beware. I think the point I made is more than fair... there's lots of things that are fair to bash Apple with, but whoever wrote that did themselves a big diservice in choosing that product to pull apart.
however I think there's still a lot of merit in what they're saying, since as I've shown in the tinyurl link, whilst often there is a considerable difference in the price of seperately purchased upgrade and the price offered by the manufacturer, I don't think I've ever noticed it to be anything near 200%.
Not to mention this is a theme that runs through most of Apples products for example -> http://news.cnet.com/i/tim//2010/08/06/apples-to-apples-dell-chart.jpg
I don't doubt that (although Dell trying to make a direct comparison between the iLife suite and Windows Live Essentials is quite amusing).
I'd just far rather people spent their time ripping apart Apple for things like iTunes (and the iPhone's continued dependence on it), the continued instance that the world won't ever have a need for Blu-Ray and deliberately leaving obvious features off products for the following year's upgrade. (The most glaring being the 2G iPhone)
If it's the laptops, you're paying a bit of premium for the upgrades on account of it being quite difficult to tinker with stuff yourself (and not because it's made that way on purpose).
And it's always more expensive to upgrade with big computer manufacturers than sourcing the parts yourself: a much better comparison would have been between what markup Apple, and, say, Dell apply if you upgrade at point-of-purchase.
but the mark-up for some of the items is genuinely ridiculous in particular upgrading to a 1TB hard-drive for $300 and LED screen for $800.
(hopefully this will work)
has nailed it below: this has turned into the reasons not to use the upgrade section of a computer manufacturer. Some of the stuff on the dell page has a 3x markup too! Macs are more expensive, and I think the amount of piss they take with upgrades is more-or-less scalar to the amount of piss that other companies take.
if it were actually true (I'm not sure if the link I posted actually displays properly, since it might rely on cookies but there's a considerable amount of disparity between their prices and say...those of dell's).
they're blatantly higher on the apple upgrade stuff (the link did work okay, by the way); but given that you really do pay premium prices for apple stuff anyway, you'd expect them to take people to the cleaners to an even greater degree if they want to upgrade.
Say.. you bought a Skoda, and you chose the generic driving hat upgrade for £5. This is a shitty hat: probably cost about a quid to make.
But if you lay out thousands on a Porsche, they'll offer that same driving hat upgrade: but it'll cost yo a lot more than a fiver. It's anchoring bias really: the more base money you lay out, the less important further costs look.
What the original article neglects to mention is that parts from Amazon will be quite easy to install on a standard Apple notebook. You don't have to pay Apple an arm and a leg to update older hardware.
swapping stuff out on an apple laptop looks like quite the shitter of a job (if it isn't designed to be user-swappable, anyway). I'm not looking forward to performing the HDD upgrade on this guy.
All you have to do is loosen a few screws and slot the new one into the space vacated by the old drive. I don't see how it could be any different to any other computer in existance...?
to remove a significant amount of delicate stuff from the machine to even access it. It's like a little jigsaw puzzle in there. From what I understand the newer ones are more like what you say.
I've only looked my machine and it seems pretty intuitive toa dunce like me.
what worries me is all the 'prying' and delicacy needed. I'm not delicate.
but generally memory's very easy to upgrade and the hard disk isn't much worse. Beyond that (as with most laptops), you'll do well to upgrade anything significant.
boring boring boring boring boring
but, yeah, quite...
Do they not realise just how cool the glowing thing looks when you’re DJing in a dark club?
You don’t find PC users snorting cocaine from the cleavage of glamour models at aftershow parties now, do you?
i genuinely thought this was going to be about rain macs
i reserve a special kind of hatred for mac vs pc arguments. thing is, the 'customise your purchase' section of the store is a total joke, but you know, buyer beware - do some research before you buy.
I always hear they're better for design type stuff..
(ps: not a dig, just that i've seen people ask that question as a piss-take as much as seriously, based on definitionofself's 'stigma that hasent shifted' nail-on-head point.)
Possibly arising from not knowing where the stigma mentioned below came from.
on a historic basis as they use to handle floating point calculations better way back in the day now there is no diff its just a stigma that hasent shifted. I think the big sells are software companies gobbled up by apple then forced to stop making pc versions. ie Logic Audio and quark. Theres also mac developed final cut pro though which probably the best vid editor out there right now.
they offer you easy, no thought but few options and hold your hand to the sites till you get the t-shirt.
With a pc you can wander off and get lost in an adventure if you want cos all the options are yours but yeah you might end up getting ass raped.
I like to go on trips not holidays personally :)
probably one of those survival/working holidays where you have to build your own hut or summats.
it'd be like sleeping on the streets.
about frothy-mouthed Apple fanboys.
is it purely because of the trendy / hipster aspect of owning a mac that you only ever see these used on stage by upteen bands these days and not a PC? Or is it genuinely because the Apple software (Logic Studio for example) has no real competiton from the PC? Thanks in advance.
and please don't shoot me down for being wrong, but I think that Macs generally have better music-making and social media type things than pcs.
If you're going to be a bit of a geek, pcs are for gamers, and macs are for graphic designers and music-y type people.
question. Well that makes sense in respect of the music issue, Four Tet, Fuck Buttons et all never seem to be using a beaten up old Dell on stage.