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what was on the other night?
this is england '86 <-----as in 1986, race riots weren't in '86.
channel 4 should've advertised it a bit more
thought it was ep 1!!
Why is that bully's accent so posh?
A funny comedic turn...with echos of Morrel during his lighter moments.
Just didn't buy him
The tone doesn't have to be consistent throughout.
Just didn't buy into the performance. Him and his sidekick felt like cartoon characters in the midst of what I thought was decent work from the rest of the cast.
They were supposed to be featherweight stooges, . If that's your only ammunition against them, you've got nothing.
It wasn't there for me
But these sort of characters don't need to be believable. They're just supposed to be funny.
and turned out to be utterly 100% wrong. I'm gonna stick with this anyway.
so the drama is all a bit blunt. acting ain't great either.
86' bad bleach jobs is consistent enough. I thought her sisters out fit was straight out of Vogue May 2003..not consistent. The series will probably get going after a few episodes, I hope.
Nobody talks like that ever. Major pet peeve.
Look, antpocalypsenow, you're just going to have to get over it, I'm sorry, antpocalypsenow, ok?
Drives me MENTAL.
it's really wooden, there's no tension, it's all sanitised. the picture has been graded within an inch of it's life, it's far too brown, it just looks as dead as the storyline. there's no atmosphere or anything. cut to one more shot of a moody beach with dull piano music playing i dare you. this is shit. i like how the filmfour ads are saying they've got a season of films by 'maverick director Shane Meadows'. if this is the work of a maverick, i'm Samantha Cameron.
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it didn't feel natural at all. it felt really stilted, which the film didn't. there was no life in it. there was more social realism in the preview of next week's Ideal on the other channel.
will probably watch next week though, it was just the first one.
gonna watch Naked now though, cheers for the reminder.
Worth noting that it was co-written by one of the Skins writers and directed by Tom Harper of 'Scouting books for boys' fame. That's not bad per se, just that it's not pure Meadows.
I reckon, judging by this episode, that it will succeed in maintaining the 'banter'/dialogue and humour of the film, but struggle to match the cinema and dramatic points of it.
I liked the bully, I thought he was a bit of a gem and wouldn't be too worried if they threw a couple of the main cast for more screentime with him. Notice Chris from Skins was playing his sidekick as well.
before Skins became abysmal
THANKyou. My sentiments exactly.
I dont think the film was the best thing of all time, and I dont want to watch 4 episodes being depressed, it covered a lot in the hour, had some funny moments, solid acting all round, well done...
The indies were never gonna like it though.
It does annoy me that Meadows is still using the ''it was all about individualism'' spiel to pitch the skinhead content....and the line "I'm still a fucking skinhead at heart Woody" was a big, big cringe.
''The landscape was changing...no one knew if they had a future but kids were out playing in the street.''
?''Blacks, whites...even pakis.....we were all in it for the skanking''
Pfffffttttt. Every single boots'n'braces muppet reels off a dot-to-dot timeline of the culture. I'm bored to my back tits of hearing about the genesis of the movement and how ''all the music came from jamaica...all shades together, orginally''
"''The landscape was changing...no one knew if they had a future but kids were out playing in the street.''"
Over-romanticising of a period that isn't even old enough to be history yet. I don't even want to imagine what dogdirt they'll be trotting out about this decade, what with the wars and recession and all sorts of stuff that makes gaydian readers sob their hearts out.
I've been unemployed since May and I've managed to get through all 9 series of ''King Of Queens''. There's my 3 day week.
"Unemployment was rife, wars were dragging on, and when a Tory government returned to Downing Street, young men turned to cutting edge American comedy for respite. Their struggle was soundtracked by the bands of the time... Scouting For Girls, Lady Gaga and Yolanda Be Cool Ft. DCup."
''The coalition struggled and the morale of the state was equally fractured. The young men and women roamed the streets, taking 2.0 megapixel photographs of their sad faces on a BlackBerry 8520 Curve.......Olly Murs seemed but a distant 180gb memory''
I feel v relevant (H)
The ones who fall head over heels for anything remotely working class, northern, 'gritty', dramas. Like people who won't have a bad word said about Morrissey etc.
You know I love the Northern Gritty. ''Boys from the Blackstuff'' is still one of the best serials to ever grace the BBC...or British television in general.
Rain, chimneys, cobbles, Thatcher footage on a fuzzy television, youngster "looking for a way out of the perpetual cycle of northern life", often linking in with the overblown twaddle about how a few half-decent bands in Manchester ChAnGeD MuSiC ForEvEr.
it generally WAS that for a lot of people, music, skinhead-ism, punk etc being the escape from Thatcher cunting everything up. It has been done to death though so I'm kinda hoping this series is less about the politics/music and more just good solid drama/comedy.
I'm not usually much of a fan that particular genre of film / tv show, although personally I've always considered Shane Meadows' output to be elevated above the standard kitchen-sink fare.
Because it's a sequel of sorts, and a TV version at that. As any form of entertainment or art continues to be produced, the probability of an indie hating it approaches one. I'm not going to back this up though. Consider me a troll if you like.
''Fuckin hell andrew shim is a shit actor''
Have to agree with that.
Pretty good at getting the shit beaten out of him though. None of the main actors are particularly good except for Thomas Turgoose (Shaun). Can't wait for Stephen Grahame to come back into the show- Combo made the film what it was IMO.
i saw an interview with him and Andrew Shim where he was saying at times he had to remind himself that he was acting.
if stephen grahame was then that would be worrying
because he'd been physically damaged by the attack - he was speaking much more slowly and shakily I thought, and that's why he sounded a bit stilted.
It didn't necessarily feel 'natural', and the tone felt kind of uneven - though that's not a problem in itself. And I enjoyed the bully.
I saw the film a whle ago, so it wasn't that fresh in my mind, but my girlfriend raised a good question: why are Banjo and Meggy in the gang? The last time we saw Meggy he was about to take a shit on an Asian shopkeepers' floor, and Banjo – who only appeared on the scene because he was Combo's old cellmate – was holding Shaun down while Milky was being savagely beaten. Why the hell would Milky, especially, want to hang out with them? Or Woody and the others, for that matter?
Maybe it'll be addressed later on, but it still seems very peculiar.
seemed to very odd. Especially as they're much older than the rest of the gang.
I'd not seen the film for a while. But Combo is coming back, so perhaps what happened inbetween will get explained then...
I read that the first two eps dealt with Shaun reintroducing himself to the group as he felt like he couldn't hang around with them after the events at the end of the film.
I'm paraphrasing but Shane Meadows said something like - but the gang tell him not to be daft and welcome him with open arms like nothings happened.
Ok fair enough he was only a little kid but that doesn't fit with Meggy and Banjos characters at all.
also its not a hollywood script, its based on the guys memories isnt it?
I have similarish memories (OK different but ties in with the times.....it all seems so naturally familiar )
Its quite weird me hearing you guys opinions cos to me it seems good anyway, perhaps its just nostalga.
It seemed to lack the naturalness that made the characters in the film seem less like characters and more like people. The delivery was very staid and it felt very manufactured drama.
Whilst the bully was funny, his accent irritated the fuck out of me. He was clearly some posh thesp putting on a deep voice to try and sound Yorkshire.
I'm going to give it a chance though - essential I'm judging a partial story (one episode of a serial) against the complete story of the film.
People seemed to be putting on their best "funny voices" when doing the light-hearted bits. The bully did as good a voice impersonation of Alan Partridge as I've heard, and there was a moment when someone else seemed to slip out of their voice, and into Peter Kay's.
I'll probably wind up watching the rest as it might get better mind.
me and mrs knees nearly had a gang wedding.....
I thought this episode was great, but i understand why you might think it wasn't
Lol is lovely, Woody seems much smaller than in the film
"mind the seats" man...?
I think he's gonna be a baddy.
I'm guessing 6?
JUST NOT MIDWAY THROUGH AN IN-PROGRESS CONVERSATION! ARGH!
The first two are focused on Woody and Lol's issues, and the second two on Combo's return.
I noticed a lot of printed notices etc. pinned up.
In 1986, an agreement between Atari and Microsoft brought Word to the Atari ST. The Atari ST version was a translation of Word 1.05 for the Apple Macintosh. It was released under the name Microsoft Write (the name of the word processor included with Windows during the 80s and early 90s). Unlike other versions of Word, the Atari version was a one time release with no future updates or revisions. The release of Microsoft Write was one of two major PC applications that were released for the Atari ST (the other application being WordPerfect). Microsoft Write was released for the Atari ST in 1988.
I fell asleep at the beginning and woke up 2 minutes before the end.
Thought the bully was quite funny in parts, some of the acting was terrible though, especially the roof top scene, the asian dude really can't act.
Oh and the wheelchair race in the deserted hospital with whatever feel good tune on in the back ground, how shit was that!?
so didn't really understand a great deal of what was going on.
What I will say is that it had pretty much nothing in common with Skins.