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Manchester United look impressive in beating a fair looking Newcastle side 3-0 to open their Premier League campaign. Early suggestions are that Newcastle should have plenty to stay up.
Five French players face a FFF hearing today. Evra, Anelka, Abidal, Ribery and Toulalon those involved.
Spurs kick off their first Champions League campaign in Switzerland this evening.
Brad Jones looks likely to join Liverpool. He's always looked a bit bobbins whenever I've seen him. Is Cavalieri on his way out?
Matt Derbyshire signs for Birmingham on loan. I think he's scored quite well in Greece for Olympiakos.
Liverpool won't contest Joe Cole's red card. Makes a nice change.
The Indian fella bidding for Blackburn wants a quick sale so that he can hand Big Sam a load of wonga to splurge. I love the word splurge.
Was noch?
I'd imagine Jones is being signed because he qualifies as home-grown
and Cavalieri doesn't. Same reason Chelsea are allegedly tracking Begovic.
Neymar will apparently make his decicion on whether or not stay at Santos or move to Chelsea today.
Ah yeah,
that'd make sense.
I was impressed by Routledge.
He's one of those players
that I've always thought should have made a bit more of his talent than he has so far. Really hope he can have a good season this time around at Newcastle.
When did clubs in The Big League actually find out about the implementation of this homegrown/25 player thing?
They voted for it in May 2009.
And they knew it was coming in for the start of this year?
Because things like Chelsea being rumoured to be stepping in for Begovic - a man who only moved in February for £3million to another club - seems a bit like terrible planning on their part.
Yep.
I agree it's terrible
but not for the same reason. It's terrible 'cos it's taken them this long to realise that Turnbull and Hilario are one numpty away from a Three Stooges tribute act.
Wasn't that why Turnball
was originally signed last year?
Should Liverpool be concerned that he was keeping Brad Jones out of the Boro side 18 months ago?
Yes
I'd imagine it was a big part of why Turnbull was signed, yes. Unsurpursingly, the club seem to have arrived at the conclusion he (and Hilario) are shit. I don't think the Begovic talk is poor planning in terms of the 25-man squad, as Chelsea already comply with it.
Yeah,
it does seem to be more a case of improving what they already have. Begovic ought to stay at Stoke though. It won't be long before Sorensen starts chucking them in his own net. He'll not dislodge Cech as Chelsea number 1.
Not sure exactly...
12-18 months or so?
Today's transfer rumours
Jermaine Jenas (Spurs) to Juventus, AC Milan, Sampdoria or Galatasaray
Moussa Dembele (AZ) to Birmingham or Fulham
Chris Basham (Bolton) to Blackpool
Thiago Alcantara (Barcelona) to Bolton
Zlatan Ibrahimovic (Barcelona) to Man City
Andre-Pierre Gignac (Toulouse) to Liverpool
Leroy Fer (Feijenoord) to Newcastle
Hugo Rodallega (Wigan) to Stoke
Valon Behrami (West Ham) to AS Roma
Charles N'Zogbia (Wigan) to Birmingham, Marseille, Sunderland or Stoke
Peter Odemwingie (Lokomotiv Moscow) to West Brom
If / when Wigan lose those two, they look like being a good bet for a relegation scrap
Their goal difference is already a bit shit.
Thought we were a good bet for that anyway, haha
If either one goes, we're in deep(er) shit.
Did N'Zogbia play a blinder for France last week or something?
I can't for the life of me work out why he's allegedly in such demand.
That said, same goes for Jenas really.
Pretty sure
he's had a bit of a falling out with the powers that be at Wigan too. N'Zogbia that is.
LEROY FER NEWCASTLE! *clap clap clap* LEROY FER NEWCASTLE! *clap clap clap*
LEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRROOOOYYYYY.....FFEEERRR
Basham's already moved
hasn't he?
He has indeed
The Daily Telegraph are a bit behind the times.
We've signed a Swedish chap called Daniel Majstorovi? from AEK Athens
He's 33 so should provide the experience in the centre of defence that we badly need.
He scored almost 30 goals in two seasons at Basle so hopefully he can chip in with 5 - 10 this season for us.
Oh and we got him for nothing as AEK terminated his contract because they are in serious financial difficultly.
Seems like a cracking piece of business by Lennon.
He's really good too
solid
but it's Majstorovic of course
Of course.
C&P from the Wiki you see.
Sounds like he's exactly the right man for us.
Is a leader? We need a leader at the back.
he's a leader
Bellamy however doesn't seem to be coming north.
“We couldn't have done any more,” Lawwell told the Scottish Sun. “We agreed a deal with Manchester City and we had been talking to Craig for over a week.
“But at the end of the day, if you lose out to someone who wants to go home there's nothing you can do about it.”
Sounds like he's joining Cardiff City then.
He's more of a nice to have that a need to have though.
We're rumours to be in for Shay Given and Vladimir Weiss as well.
I'm pretty confident Weiss will sign for us as he'd "love to sign for Celtic."
Fingers crossed!
Can't see Given signing unless Man City refuse to let him go to a rival.
no idea what to expect from young boys
they could turn us over 3-0 or we could do the same to them.
Plastic pitch, mystery european team, knockout football
It's like the good old days!
They've got an English right-back
who is a Spurs fan. I hope he turns out to be better than Glen Johnson.
you should expect conkers, scuffed shoes, not wanting to do their
homework etc etc
who the fuck would Big Sam spend 100 million on?
john hartson's fit and well again now isn't he?
or mark van bommell. he's only about 34
Kevin Davies deserves a second chance at Blackburn, doesn't he?
he's re-signed Stuart Ripley apparently. Just for his hair.
Diouf
who R Gignac ?
did he play for france in the world cup ? when I say play, I mean was he there, with the others.
Yeah he was..
scored quite a few goals for Toulouse I think a couple of years back. Or maybe Bordeaux. Can't remember. Hasn't impressed me on the few occasions I've seen him play.
Yeah he plays for Toulouse or at least used to.
Saw him play against Grenoble last season and thought he looked excellent although to be fair Grenoble were useless so maybe not the best example.
He's also a gypsy
So he's the French Freddie Eastwood
incase anyone missed it the first time round;
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=337901&cc=5739
You're right
He should have gone to Celtic. lol
40 replies before any mention of Man City
must be some kind of record.
Anyway, The Grauniad is reporting that the Milner / Ireland p/ex deal has gone through.
And Bellamy to Cardiff to be confirmed at 3pm
even though Robbie Savage basically did so without saying anything last night.
I enjoyed that conversation so much.
Robbie: Yeah, he told me, but I can't reveal anything
Cue Motson and Chapman spending half an hour trying to wheedle information out of him.
Lovely work.
I sincerely hope Robbie continues his media career after hanging
up his boots. He's easily the most entertaining person on Five live or whatever its called these days.
Aston Villa complete protracted transfer saga
by signing Stephen Ireland and £18m in exchange for James Milner.
Great bit of business, but definitely sad to see Jimmy go, glad he left with a goal and a standing ovation on Saturday.
Özil to Madrid confirmed
ah well, at least there's not that false hope any more and at least he didn't end up elsewhere in England
Appear please
thanks
personally I'd have rather seen him play in the premiership for a rival
than for him to be in Spain
I think he's absofuckinglutely terrific
I'm a bit disappointed to see him go to Madrid.
One of the things I liked about Germany in the World Cup was how they seemed to be the antithesis of the underperforming 'stars' littering the other teams.
I really hoped that they'd all stay in Germany until 2014 and then storm the next world cup.
I'm no United fan by any means
but it would have been great to see him walk straight into a top Premiership side, as he doubtless would have done, and really make a difference to the team.
Instead, he'll get 10 games a year against the likes of Almeria and Levante before ironically losing out on the title yet again to the Spanish national team.
The circle of life continues...
That's a real shame
He was pretty much only linked with bellend clubs though.
Surprised everyone thinks it's a bad move
I think it's a great one, for him at least. Germany's midfield was a sum of it's parts. Going to the same club as Khedira is astute and I'd wager they'll both establish themselves as first eleven players.
plus 'failing' at Madrid just means you'll get a cheap move elsewhere soon enough
and he's only 21 anyway
Motherwell are threating to issue a winding-up order to Cardiff because they still haven't paid the £175,000 the owe for Paul Quinn.
Quite right too.
If they can afford Bellamy, they can afford to pay what they've agreed for Quinn.
Clearly Cardiff - and everyone associated with them - are arseholes after all.
I've seen somewhere today
suggestions that they're about to be hit with another transfer embargo. Clearly they're not going to be covering all of Bellamy's wages, but even a fraction of them when they owe money for other players isn't right.
Pretty much yeah.
They originally agreed to pay for Quinn in monthly installments - fair enough, clubs do this all the time.
However, the January payment wasn't received and neither has any subsequent payments.
Motherwell are deadly serious too: ""We have given Cardiff every chance to do the right thing.
The board now believe that Cardiff’s position is untenable given their activity in the transfer market acquiring Jason Koumas, Tom Heaton, Danny Drinkwater, Seyi Olofinjana, Martin John and today, the loan signing of Manchester City’s Craig Bellamy.
Given all these circumstances and with legal and moral weight behind us, Motherwell FC have no option but to immediately pursue all legal routes to ensure this significant sum paid to us as quickly as possible.
These may include issuing a winding up order, arresting assets or physically sending bailiffs to their ground on match day to take possession of cash. Every option will be fully considered and implemented as soon as possible."
Pay up Cardiff!
Good for Motherwell...
Quite frankly, I hope Craig Brown goes and shits in the centre circle of Cardiff's new ground. How they can justify marquee signings like Bellamy when they've been reneging on various payments is completely beyond me.
obvs there's 2 sides to everything blah blah
but i wouldn't be surprised in the slightest if this was the case.
:'D
I'd love to see the bailiffs turn up and start taking cash.
"arresting assets"?
Does that mean they're going to kidnap Jason Koumas and Danny Drinkwater?
Anelka banned for France for eighteen matches
Evra for five.
That's International retirement for Anelka at least then
*gallic shrug*
N'gog's time to shine!
......no?
Anelka barely seems to have an international career anyway
guess he'll just have to settle for winning loads of trophies in Chelseas French looking new kit
Bellamy to Cardiff is an utterly bizarre development
particularly with all the other shenanigans going on there. What the hell is happening at that club?
the only slightly logical explanation
is that the sheik/mancini have decided to let him go there for free (they'll keep picking up the wages) because the only other serious offers were from, say, spurs and liverpool.
but football isn't very logical.
I'd guess a bit of one, and a bit of the other
It wouldn't surprise me if City wouldn't let him go to a 'rival' club, and so he decided that he'd rather just play for his local team, probably on a reduced wage (albeit City still paying a decent chunk) instead of for someone in the bottom half of the Premier League.
I've certainly heard mutterings in the last couple of weeks about him wanting to spend more time at home.
Yep
it's all about him wanting to move back near his family. I'm sure I saw him say it explicitly somewhere. Or did I...
Celtic had agreed a deal with Man City and had been speaking to Bellamy for the past week.
He simply wanted to go home.
bizarre transfers continue -
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1303851/EXCLUSIVE-Holland-legend-Edgar-Davids-set-shock-Crystal-Palace.html?ito=feeds-newsxml
Like his move to Leicester last season?
Joey Barton's moustache isn't actually very good, is it?
From the way people are referring to it you'd expect at least a Dick Strawbridge; instead it's the sort of thing all mid-80s rugged defenders had, a la Derek Mountfield.
Looks like a prostitute-killing taxi driver from the 80s
I like it.
it's mint
he looks like Peter Mandelson used to. Not enough taches in the top flight imo.
Hahah 18 match ban for Anelka
He'll be about 97 by the time he can play for France agan
Being a Cardiff fan is fun at the moment.
"interesting" yes, but very eventful.
Getting one of the standout players of the premiership last season is such a coup.
jesus
this must be the most typed facebook status update around at the minute
Bellamy should tear the Championship a new one
Looks like Ben Arfa might be too stroppy even for Newcastle to sign. If you can imagine such a player actually existing
can't wait till Craig is added to the Fantasy Championship listings
Wankdorf, WANKDORF hahahhHAAHHA!
Gulp
I'm tornhalf of me thinks it would be hilarious
if Spurs got bummed out of the competition before the group stages.
The other half wants them to qualify to really work their squad over and reduce the likelihood of them challenging us for the top 4.
Blimey, this pitch is in good nick
i hope the groundsman is suitably rewarded
Don't think it's real.
...
:''''''''''')
i'm watching kiev but hope this is as amusing as the scoreline suggests.
steffen iversen just scored a stunning volley too
everything's coming up tottenham
thought there'd be goals when i saw spurs line-up
but, y'know, t'other way round
have young boys always looked this good?
^ Soon to become fully fledged Paedo
sky viewers
are englands fourth side doing as badly as it sounds?
yeah bassong and dawson have been truly awful
spurs have had their chances as well tho
HAHA this is hilarious
basLOLsong
:'D
I know you shouldn't take joy in others misery, but this is amazing.
They're trying to tempt me into gloating too soon
But I'm saying nothing yet!
"They don't tend to keep clean sheets, Young Boys."
Pav is so so shit
i dont know why harry even bothers playing him.
Because our other strikers are Peter Crouch and Robbie Keane
Crouch is a million times better than Pav
and keane
They're all fucking rubbish
Would have got Crouch on for Pav after 20 minutes tonight, mind. Can't believe he lasted the whole 90, although obviously it paid off in the end. Even though we'd used two of our subs already, I still would have risked the third. Abysmal performance.
....you were saying
TAKE A BOW SON. TAKE A BOW
makes up for his first touch the rest of the game
and breaking up attack after attack. Also even his goal came from him making the wrong choice to shoot from an angle where 9 times out of ten he hits it into row Z.
Anyone got a stream?
Looks like tomorrow is gonna be a good day for headline writers!
Whipped by young boys?
Spurs fail to take advantage of young birds.
what?
oh dear
im far too tired to be online
boys*
Raped by Young Boys
Damn
Boo! Hiss! etc
I love Spurs.
Always finding new ways to disappoint their fans.
Hope they make it through, would really like to see them in the Champions League.
initial optimism followed by crushing disappointment.
i love being a Spurs fan
It's an endless cycle.
It reminds me of the Matrix Revolutions when the Architect tells Neo that there have been 5 versions of the Matrix and 5 Neo's before him. I feel sorry for new Spurs fans. They probably think we're good.
two carling cup finals and 4th finish
youngsters probably think that is standard. Though id rather that than when i was younger and thought not getting relegated was good.
Iput 60 quid on a spurs win
After losing 40 on a roulette machine. I'm never gambling again.
yesssss managed to bet my way out of trouble on the tennis
well done baghdatis!
Argh
I knew it was too good to last
apparently
Mesut Ozil has become a Real Madrid player this evening. Hard to look beyond them or Barca for the Champions League this year.
wasn't that the case last year?
not so much Real Madrid,
their galactico spending last year wasn't backed by the management of Mourinho. Barca signing David Villa will be a huge asset. I can't envisage any English clubs getting beyond quarter finals again.
trudat i'm not taking the mourinho factor into account
It'll be Real
Mourinho is unstoppable
have Spurs got different shirt sponsors for European competition?
greedy fucking whores
They have three sponsors this year, six different kits in total.
*2 sponsors, 6 kits
One sponsor for the league, the other for all the cup competitions.
sell outs
we're a team of the people
I don't know why they were hyping up Giovani
Thought he really struggled to get into the match. Such a shame that one shitty team performance he just happened to be part of will probably set his Spurs career back another 6 months.
He ran more than any other Spurs player up to half time
5.8 km. - Bet you can't guess two and three.
Don't know the final totals.
Gomes and Huddlestone
How do you know these things?
For the self diagnosed Asperger's
It was really Pav and Defoe :0
I would have said Defoe, actually
He worked hard. And Pavlyuchenko probably ran 2 miles just chasing down his own loose touches.
Gio was one of the few players to come out of the first half with anything approaching credit, but then in the second half, when he really would have got a few chances to have an impact, he faded quite significantly. I don't think the formation really suits him - too often (and in the 15 minutes or so he was on the pitch against City as well) he was picking up the ball way too deep. I don't want him running the length of the pitch and getting tired out by the time he's anywhere near the opposition goal; I want him trying to work his magic in and around the box.
...you missed a treat, you would've loved it.
worst performance i can remember by spurs in a long long time
was gonna write a list of who was inconceivably crap but realised it would've been everyone apart from huddlestone (and gio and kranjcar were ok-ish)
Bale wasn't bad second half
Didn't really notice Kranjcar.
Palacios, Bassong and Dawson were so bad first half. It was like the start of 2007-8 when Kaboul and Dawson were playing.
kranc and huddlestone really added some much needed composure
everyone else was shitting themselves when they got the ball.
Not really
We had much more possession, more shots on target, more shots, more corners and squandered plenty of chances.
You could tell our season hasn't really started yet and the plastic couldn't have helped.
they were turd -
obviously couldn't cope with the pitch at all. (that's not an excuse, that's a criticism)
The first 30 minutes was like watching a bunch of fat blokes trying to play football
Realisticly, they did to us what we should have done to City.
Second half we still couldn't defend, but at least a few of them could control it.
I'm suprised at how well we played against City, this must have been the worst pre-season ever.
Tottenham were absolute, total, unarguable shite in the first half
The Bassong goal came completely out of the blue. They were mauled, it should have been 4 before the 1st Spurs goal.
Second half, Young Boys squandered plenty of chances to make it 4,5-1. They had better build-up play, they put more pressure on the ball, they were faster, they played better as a unit.
Tottenham were outplayed. The margin should have been 2 or 3.
We were shit.
Even so, those stats are true and our best chances did not materialise as shots because some fool fell over or scuffed it instead.
Spurs were shite
but Young Boys (LOL, still) looked pretty nifty and didnt deserve the patronising they got from the commentators, though I guess it's to be expected, some great diagonals, every cross was decent, great through-ball for I think the third goal and another 2 chances which should have been in.