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Women can be funny but it's normally a demure style of humour that goes largely unnoticed. Men I know are more LOL funny because they don't have their egos to worry about.
Way to go, chump.
Their own gender or both or just to you?
but it's a bit unfair to make a generalisation based on that.
*I was going to say Shazia Mirza. Then Jo Brand. But I think Yasheere is probably the worst.
Women don’t have small penises to feel insecure about.
but, to try to give you a serious answer:
Women can be every bit as funny as men. Some women are painfully unfunny - but then so are some men.
There's a fairly widespread theory that women tend to stay away from a lot of the jokey, stand-up, get-a-regular-slot-on-Mock-the-Week type comedy as it comes from a stance of one-upmanship that a lot of women are sensible enough to keep the hell away from.
However, there are nevertheless plenty of excellent female stand-ups (fewer than men admittedly), and countless hugely funny female writers, actors, performers, and even, you know, just normal women.
men have to win a mate by being awesome at stuff, women...don't.
maybe talk to some women you're not directly related to.
but what your essentially saying is that none of the women you know are funny.
This seems to suggest that either you have crap taste in friends, or you don't know very many women.
i know loads of funny chicks.
seems a weird way to spend your time.
have the courage of your trolling convictions FFS. Feeble effort.
Seems like a fair point.
I wonder how the percentage of stand-up females compares with the percentage of behind the scenes comedy programs?
Tina Fey, Sharon Horgan, Julia Davis, Jessica Stevenson, Ruth Jones...
It's all a matter of taste of course, but the female stand-ups I like off the top of my head are Holly Walsh, maybe Joan Rivers... not that many.
I know some really hilarious women- people who, in a social situation, are more charming, witty and quick than their male counterparts, but that kind of humour does not morph into, e.g. professional stand-up. Stand-up relies on piss-taking of broadly two kinds-
1. you either take the piss out of yourself (and women are far less inclined to do this, unless they're fat (jo brand, dawn french) or prone to making gags about periods (URGH) or
2. you take the piss out of other people, and most women aren't hardwired to be like that. The most they can usually manage is to piss-take out of men (double URGH).
As others have said though, there are some great female writers and comic actresses out there, so maybe the gripe seems to be with female performers who *also* write their own material? I dunno, this is really just thinking aloud.....
Is "Stand up for The Week" the shittest TV programme of all time?
Answer: Yes. It's Utter bilge from start to finish.
Last night it had Patrick Kielty compering. Stephen K Amos headlining. Chico (of 'It's Chico-time' 'fame') as special guest for a piss-poor 2 min roasting sesh. Some sub-Gina Yashere doing a 'wot-i-saw-on-teh-webz' slot. The otherwise mildly amusing Kevin Bridges doing a 'sports roundup'.
Neither "edgy" nor "satirical", as it bills itself.
Plus, the laughter was really weird. As if it had been edited to fook, or something. Or the audience was massively promted. Dunno, but the live crowd was apparently responding really oddly - laughing like drains halfway through "jokes", and then silent for punchlines. Very odd.
Forgot that they also had that guy from the 3 Mobile sponsored ident thingys from a few months ago. He was shit. And Rich Hall was tragic. Going on about some old bullshit.
It made Lee Nelson look good. Which is an achievement.
apparently had a lot of fan-girls in the crowd, screaming at whatever he said, regardless of whether it was funny. Painful to watch.
No idea who is on it though
but they don't seem to deliver it as well as men. That's why women stand ups & comedic actors mostly suck but they can be amazing comedic writers.
Madeline Kahn, Tina Fey, Anna Faris, Janeane Garafalo, Sarah Silverman, Roseanne, Jessica Hynes, Julia Davies, Jane Lynch, Kristen Schaal, Jennifer Saunders, Sally Phillips?
but for example Tina Fey is a fantastic writer and always prefer it when one of the supporting cast delivers their lines. Sorry.
What you mean is that you don't find women funny as a rule, apart from when they're behind the scenes writers.
Intersting. *Freud-esque chin stroke*
though I tend to find women/girls IRL a lot funnier, come to think of it I think the below post by Crispin is right. Everything they tend to make jokes about is situational.
It's almost made me change my mind for the worse
A man tells a joke, even quite a bad one, and women will probably titter - eve before the punchline, it's just the expected response to a joke set-up.
But a woman tells a joke, and even if it's quite good, men will usually claim it's rubbish, again because that's what they expect it to be.
what's their problem?
there's actual funny, eg things you can write down and pass off as funny to large numbers of people. this is humour with mass appeal, it's perfectly formed to hit the funnybone directly.
then there's situational funny. this is humour you have with your mates, things that have happened to you and times when you and your friends have been joking about something.
women make the mistake of thinking the second one is actually funny outside of the situation itself. that's why you have loads of shit female standups and female led or written sitcoms where it's all about this CRAZZZYYY stuff they get up to. and it's really not funny to anyone except them and other women who think "omg that is just like me and my mates!!!!"
disclaimer: yes men do this too but nowhere near as much/women don't always fall for this, but as a general rule, they do.
you're lying to yourself if you really truly believe women can be as funny as men AS A GENERAL RULE. of course there are exceptions to everything in the universe.
people who believe women can be just as funny/funnier either fall into:
1. women themselves getting defensive. maybe they should put that anger and energy into being funny.
2. men who think if they stand up for women around women they will get fucked. this is just the worst type of guy, he constantly lives up to a shy nerdish respecter of women because that's what girls say they find attractive. then they fuck a prick, guy goes home and wanks to gaggingwhores.com
You really hate women.
but no i don't hate women.
i hate people, sure.
don't have anything specifically against women, i just think they tend to be pretty unfunny in an actually genuinely funny sense. i can enjoy their company though; depends on the person.
based on the evidence presented.
"Women aren't always stupid, but as a general rule, they are."
could in no way be balanced with a similarly hateful rant about men
wise up champ
but it's OK! Listen while I reel off some white person-foibles too!"
as shit and retarded as yours
There's no need to get abusive just because you regret having exposed yourself as a misogynist.
'i don't understand the point you just made and i don't care because i've already made up my mind based on anger and my unwillingness to learn'
I'm not angry in the slightest.
The point you just made is that racial prejudice cannot be analogous to gender prejudice, which is not only blatantly false (as illustrated in decades of campaigning literature), but, through your eagerness to diminish the seriousness of discrimination against women, you've also further highlighted your own sad, outdated and rather grubby misogyny.
it's got that 'wahhh i demand blind equality' tone that you only get from people who misunderstand the concept of equality. eg women TONGUE PENETRATING CHEEK.
i'm not even gonna entertain the ridiculous notion that sexism holds the same cultural and historical weight as racism. lrn2readtextbooks.
i didn't once 'diminish the seriousness of discrimination against women' i diminished your awful analogy and aired my opinion on female humour which doesn't fit into your WAHH EQUALITY standpoint.
once again, you're just another butthurt stagnant idiot who wants to kick and scream when somebody has an opinion you don't understand. so to compensate you start flinging shit, pronouncing things that you ASSUME i must be based a wrongfully formed understanding of events.
The second you start to think you're being bested by a woman in an argument you start frothing like a shaken up can of Pepsi.
I never said that sexism "holds the same cultural and historical weight as racism" - merely that gender discrimination could be analagous with racial discrimination - hardly an earth-shattering concept and one that has a wealth of precedents (have a little Google if you don't believe me - you might learn something).
When you say "I didn't once 'diminish the seriousness of discrimination against women'" I'm afraid you have - and not surprising given your posting record.
I'm going offline now, but I've thoroughly enjoyed our little chat - if you're off out this evening try not not punch any women in the tits.
i said your analogy wasn't a fair or accurate one. you were equating my logic to the racial equivalent, which like i said, holds a far greater significance.
lol@ the last two paragraphs of your post. translates into:
NO YOU HAVE MADE SEXIST COMMENTS BE4 I CAN'T PROVE THAT RIGHT NOW THO I'M GOING OUT LOL U PUNCH WOMEN BYE
like flickers of blinking light from a sewage mine
I bet you write poems.
then i'll teach you about equality
I'll admit I spent like a week lurking there then got bored because everybody has the exact same boring opinions that they think are in some way TELLING IT LIKE IT IS. Which is what you're doing. Which sucks.
but you seem hellbent on letting everybody know you do know about it and you've 'got me all figured out'
nobody cares champ
you're bamnan with fewer exclamation marks.
you spend 85% of the time trying to work out their flaws and then making sure everybody knows you've DEAFETED A TROLL
but it's clear to anyone who knows anything about real trolling that you're just not getting it.
OH HEY LOOK I'M A DOING A YES_
"situational funny" = scripted, presented stuff
"actual funny" = spontaneous, natural stuff
b) Fucktonnes of guys labour and spin out the telling of a shitty story under the delusion that it's vaguely humerous. In short: There are as many "wacky" men as "wacky" women.
Are you saying that "humour you have with your mates, things that have happened to you and times when you and your friends have been joking about something" isn't "actual funny"?
i'm not saying it's not FUNNY but it's only funny in a certain context. while it's happening it's funny, ages later when your mate says "hey remember that time!" that's sort of funny/cheerful
but people who think their experiences have actual comedic value are often wrong. comedy is an art, and while anybody is free to take part, the majority just don't have the craft.
I'm well funny.
much funnier than the actual situation itself
but that's more an art of storytelling, which is something few people possess. lots of people think they have it, but they don't.
I'm not funny on the internet but I am funny in real life.
you have boobs in real life
I excel in everything.
who was actually funny, nor do any female actresses spring to mind. A curious fact for which I have no credible explanation. Hence confusion by the passionate championing above.
FUNNY LOOKING HA HA HA HA.
I think this thread has proved that some women can be pretty funny. Especially AdamB.
only a fe are actually good, Jo Brand for instance....and I can't think of any more though I know I like more than one....surely.
"why aren't there as many funny women as men?"
as women are perfectly capable of being as funny/funnier than men but perhaps less of them.
for the record i think 99% all of standup comedy is fucking shit
it's what shit comedians do because they think it's just about writing 50 jokes and reciting them into a microphone
i guess i was wrong about all women
hadn't actually heard that yet, A++
and that's pretty much the only reason for a girl to do anything. I give you:
Pretending to like music
Pretending to like football
Pretending to like art
You don't even have CrispyAlexander's turn of phrase you pilchard
they each buy a round and have a great night, then go home and go to sleep.