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What exactly are they and why should I want one?
They're characterised by letting you view and surf the web identically to a computer at home. Unlike, (say), my W995 SE phone which, while pretty cool, still accesses the Mobile version of websites and has too small a screen to allow me to properly browse.
Really it's a phone that is also doing everything your classic Palm PDA was there to do 5-10 years ago.
You'd want one if you regularly use your phone to check the internet and surf, etc. The downside is a worse battery life and a flimsier phone compared to the durable bricks of yesteryear.
I'm currently looking at that (£200 on O2 PAYG, which is a bit steep, especially for what's a fairly old model now), the Nokia 6700 Slide (£130, not as feature-heavy as the W995 but newer and a more reasonable price) and the SE Xperia X10 Mini (£180 smart phone but apparently with the old version of Android omgwtf).
I can't really say how often I'll use my phone to check the internet because I've never had one which provides that as an option. But considering how much of my time I spend on here, I'll probably use it to go online... umm... a bit?
It has a lot of good features including a torch but I've found them (I have experience of other owners and Lo has one too) to be a little on the buggy side. I also feel like it's not a particularly great build quality.
It's been a valiant phone all things considered and you get a great pair of headphones with it but I think it's just not quite as good as smart phones.
From the looks of things, old version of Android or not, the X10 Mini Xperia sounds like a decent phone to go with. Certainly a W995 shouldn't cost MORE than that phone in my view but I'd imagine in that sub-smartphone range the best options may well be from Nokia.
TheWza has good Nokia knowledge so maybe see if he can put in a response.
A LOT. It's a decent phone for what it does but not worth £200.
The problems I have aren't really software based, though.
Google refuses to let you view the calendar in non-mobile view (the mobile view's utterly useless) and the built-in calendar can't take the Google calendar xml stream, for example. The radio seems to be having a few issues now too.
I don't understand it.
When I restarted the radio app it was fine but that is not good. Hopefully it's not the radio hardware that's at fault.
There's a standard calendar form which ends .ics, I think it's related to iCal?
Anyway if you go to Facebook (for example) you'll see an 'export events' link at the bottom of the events page. You can use that link in your Google calendar. Last.FM does the same with its events.
This means when I view my Google Calendar I have Facebook and Last.FM events on it too (you can turn them off from the view if you need).
What would be nice is if the SE phone calendar allowed for similar feed reading so you could just have all your events on it from various sources, including Google Calendar's export.
on loads of AJAX stuff that dumbphones aren't really going to be able to keep up with?
My point is more that this makes the W995 not so useful for me as it could be.
It would be good if they at least let you import calenders into the phone's calendar, though.
It shows you this week and then you can go forward in weeks at a time. It makes it very hard if someone asks you what you're doing in a couple of months' time.
sounds like you want a Smart Phone. Given the limitations of J2ME phones, you're going to struggle to get a decent calendar that does what you want without it. I could never deal with calendars on my k810 either, but can't do without it on Android.
I was really just pointing out where I found the W995's limitations to be.
Despite those having a torch, a half-decent battery life, small size, great music playback and a built-in FM radio are all areas where it definitely kills a smartphone dead. I'm kind of dreading January and having to work out which smartphone to go with.
albeit not all. The rest varies from phone to phone - iPhone obviously does music very well for example - although I'm a little surprised an inbuilt torch is a killer feature!
I never cease to find a use for that thing.
you know where I'm going with this...
is the idea to set it alight?
so you can't get FM and the best Android phone, etc.
I hate iTunes and how it deals with music and I find iPods horribly counter-intuitive to use so I'm not convinced about the iPhone. Battry life on the 4 is great, though.
To be fair, there's always some trade off somewhere whenever you buy a phone though, smart or otherwise. Whatever various Android/Apple nerds will tell you, there's no perfect phone out there.
That's basically what I wanted to know about the W995 though. Thanks.
*Knows. Proven by way of links to credible surveys. Cheers.
Theo is being kinda kind in terms of my Nokia knowledge. What I'll say is that I've found the E71 to be bostin over the 12 months I've had it and it deserves more attention than it gets. The E63 is the slightly larger version but pretty much functionally equivalent (and seems to be going pretty cheaply from a couple of places). The E72 supersedes them.
Basically, if you're considering a Blackberry, then Nokia's E series deserves your attention. They'll do everything a Blackberry will (except for businessy linky-syncy email stuff, even though they actually do do that stuff afaik, but whatever, that doesn't apply here). GPS, WiFi, Bluetooth, good battery, nice qwerty keypad, slim, blah blah blah...
I've not seen a Nokia N series phone that tops HTCs finest offerings, tbh. Although the N900 has my attention. Although that's kind of a different kettle of fish to iPhone/Android territory.
with Android 2.1 to be released later in the year. Assuming it's not too small for my massive hands, anyway. In which case, I'll probably go for the Nokia 6700. Thought you'd all like to know.
it was/is pretty much the only decent phone that exists without a touch screen.
I don't even know if I want a touch screen, y'see. I don't have much experience of them, but I know some people just don't get on with them. My only gripe with the 6700 (as far as I can tell) is that it doesn't have Wi-Fi, but how often am I going both be in a wireless hotspot and actually want to take advantage of it? NOT VERY.
But I'm not totally convinced by the bold claim that the Nokia 6700 (v good as it defo is) "was/is pretty much the only decent phone that exists without a touch screen" either.
Right, so I'm looking at getting an HTC Whatever It's Called. I'm locked in with Orange so can't shop about other networks.
The package I'm looking at has 500MB mobile internet browsing a month, but I don't really have any comprehension of what that actually means. How much actual browsing is that? I doubt I'll stream much video or music.
How long 'til the Orange one ends?
but I want to upgrade before that because my current phone is going to shit, and I'm off on holiday in September and it'd be useful to have access to all my Google Docs and Google Calendar and Google Maps etc. So I'm hoping Orange let me just take out a new contract.
I only get through around 10MB a day, and that's with quite a bit of usage.
does anyone have a HTC wildfire? is it any good? currently £20/month on vodafone - tempting.
It would be pretty decent, but with a resolution of 240 x 320, especially with a 3.2" screen, it seems like it would be slightly crippled.
I'm still waiting for the ideal Android handset for me: 320 x 480 screen > 3", capacitative touch screen, decent battery life, Android 2.2, not too much over £100 on payg or a low priced contract (IM A STUDENT, etc.)
hot off the press...
there are people reporting in the comment section that it is difficult to find apps due to the low resolution. I thought that this may be the case.
and some offers mean it would work out about £25 a month.
do these HTC phones work in america? (tri-band, 3Gs i dunno what frequencies they use...)
Very few smartphones (if any) won't work in America on at least a few networks. Some networks (like Sprint) you won't be able to roam onto at all, and your mileage may vary with 3G networks, but you won't have a problem with a 2G/Edge connection.
Bear in mind when roaming with a smartphone, data is very expensive, so turn it off!
its probably the most useful mobile phone I've ever had, for Media and games and most other things, its unbeatable. It IS pretty big though.