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or ever thought about it?
they were comedy gold and i was standing up....does this count?
...first 2 were shit but the last 3 were awesome, dead relaxed, loadsa props,riffing with the audience...man, good times.
i was in front of a live audience at the time
i ask because, i sort of had an epiphany the other day, watching russel brand of all people, that standing up and making people laugh must be the greatest job in the world...
i'm not saying that i'm funny enough to do that, but i'd like to give it a damn good try...all my life, i've only felt validated at the point that i can make someone laugh, so imagine the constant ego stroke and reassurance that this would bring. amazing.
also, i'm lee.
But seriously...you are definately Lee (and I'm definately not Herring)
and you are definitely not judy?
Am I wrong about that?
maybe...i know he comes up with different funny ideas, and writes funny stuff down, but i'm not sure if he's ever said...'i want to do stand-up'....but i'm sure he would.
I don't think I could ever overcome the nerves to actually have a crack at it, though.
i actually get crippling nerves whenever presented infront fo my peers, so this would probably be the worst thing for me to do.....
but if i could make them laugh....golly...
I went off on a tangent and presented some funny ideas when doing an Illustration lecture. Once you get that initial (big) laugh, you feel like you can conquer the world.
i think if i went down bad though, i'd literally die. my head would melt.
But it makes me equally sick thinking that we could be missing out on a brilliant hobby or vocation just because we havn't got the bollocks to do it.
i'm fully behind you.
That was shit.
He's aware of it's shitness,...hence comments like ''i was in front of a live audience at the time''
He's making a comment on shit comedy by being shit at comedy.
would prefer some knob jokes personally.
only seen him perform three or four times, though.
how did he get going?
though, he's actually funnier saying stuff off the cuff — incredibly quick!
He got into it during his late teens. Had a gig in radio and got into stand-up on the side. It's still mostly a side gig, but he regularly enters competitions, and does pretty well at a local level.
another thing having a structured script..
i guess if i came up with stuff, i could film myself doing it, post it on here and see what you wankers though
rip your routine to shre-- er, offer my modestly informed, professional and constructive feedback.
i'm really gonna do this
No one else would laugh
the others still have some life in them.
He's alright. He's been going 14 years or something now so he clearly enjoys it.
don't be coy now scout, name and shame.
how did he get started?
Probs not. Everyone locally knows him and he's been on TV and in a film and stuff but he's not a comedian as such; he wasn't quite cutting it so now he mainly comperes and organises a couple of good comedy nights.
I do know a couple of proper comics you'd have heard of but only really by association, if you're after advice I could get you some ...
i think, the first thing would be to get ten minutes sorted, film it, post it on here, and then let you lot say if you found it funny or not.
or you'll come across like that complete norman who did those Channel 4 stings that time
I kind of got anti-inspired by going to a local Last Laugh comedy club, and seeing acts who were really pretty poor getting a riotous reaction, and thinking I could try and do better
Agree that I'm most validated when on form with being sharp and funny, be a great thing to achieve, even if you only do it once. Always get inspired when watching people like Larry David, Steve Martin, Russell Brand is excellent. People misinterpret him due to all of his frivolity and excesses, but he's one of the most natural stand-up comedians I've seen, brilliantly articulate and engaging
The verbose dictionary speak doesn't enhance the comic thread, it kills the joke flat. He's more worried about cultivating a particular image than getting the laughs.
Though, he's definately got a natural gift for comedy...this came through loud and clear on his radio show. The partnership between him and Matt Morgan (with Morgan anchoring Brands ego and reigning in the most irritating aspects of Brands character)was brilliant.
Brand could be a wonderful thing...but I'm worried he's becoming more Dud than Pete.
I remember he used to always bang on about adoring Peter Cook - having a shrine to him in his gaff and everything. Then when he was asked about influences on some US TV show he just whittled on about Steve Martin and Richard Pryor, which I couldn't believe.
His comedic genius stems completely from his own life and the root of all that was how self-deprecating he could be. So yeah, he'd talk about having an orgy, but he'd also note how drab and listless an affair it was, and how pathetic he felt. Matt Morgan helped him with that - he was the witty best mate, always dragging him back down to earth and keeping him on his toes.
Now he just wants to be a rock star.
I remember him talking about Bill Hicks and Pryor in his BBC 6music show.
And this is the mentality that's going to kill him.
but they were all Yanks, felt a bit like he was pandering.
last time i checked he was a genius. steve martin, too, had his moments.
He just seemed to be shirking away from his British influences. It's nitpicking, I admit.
which is full of amateurs, so I'd assume you'd enter into things that way. They're a real mixed bag - I've seen some top class stuff but also some that have been hissed practically from the stage. One of the worst was Kelvin McKenzie, the columnist/former editor of the Sun - he was doing one of his first gigs as he tried to become a standup and was painful.
One of his "gags" went: hmmm, new president over in America. I wonder...does Obama call his Blackberry a 'Berry of colour'? <cue wave of booing>
Oh man, if only I was there, we could've glassed him
and not in a collegial way. He was filming the whole thing for a documentary so I'm sure he was not exactly chuffed at the attention
it turns out i'm not actually funny, i just call people a twat in amusing ways.
i think being a funny person and being good at stand up are different things, really. i mean i fucking love showing off and that n'all but i don't think i could do it.
At the amateur night I was talking about above, so many of the acts rely on almost nothing more than taking the piss, particularly by finding the shyest looking member of the audience and just hammering him. It's pretty lame. I wonder if it's the same - people who are great at sending up their mates but can't go much beyond that
especially when you think that a lot of jokes that even your funniest mates crack probably rely on background knowledge/injokes/being able to rip the piss out of friends.
being accessible, funny and having a good stage presence is a lot harder than it seems.
I've got the touch to be a great Chicken-In-A-Basket circuit stand-up
i think i've got some stories that could work....but actually 'writing' a joke, would be much, much trickier.
hanging one-liners and observational comedy off key points in the narrating of the story.
Structure is a big part of a successful routine, I reckon. You're probably well aware that it's not just about standing up and telling a series of jokes. Obviously, if you don't have the jokes, you don't have the comedy, but there's a set of generic conventions to stand-up (just like any other genre): an identifiable theme, the recurring gags, the drawn out development of scenarios, etc.
If you're really serious, I recommend you (1) start writing down everything and anything you think of as being funny or as being potentially the basis for something funny; and (2) study live routines of different comedians looking for tips on how to structure the routine.
The ball is shaped like a sphere not a foot <pause for laughter>
But seriously....my computer has the Robert Green virus. Can't save anything. <take drink of water from glass sitting on stool>
Which is odd, as I found him the most deeply unfunny person I had ever met.
I would LOVE to do it. Problem is I'm not independently funny. Give me something to comment on and I can be pretty damn witty. Ask me to say something funny and I'll mumble like a tit
But with my penchant for foul language I'm not sure with how much of a show they'd be left with
I'd work much better as someone's sidekick, I think.
When we had a radio show I said some pretty funny things but I'd have been redundant had I not had someone there to riff off.
but then again it does take me about 3 days to come up with a witty response to stuff.
i just need to get funny.
unless my suspicion that all those women who said that a good sense of humour is most attractive are lying turns out to be true and it is just down to schlong size.
i just need to get a bigger willy.
because I was asked to tell a joke.
is it's so easy to be appalling or average. Takes quite a few years to learn the art of making people laugh; it's a canyon of difference to cracking the odd wisecrack down the pub on a Friday night.
that's what fascinates me about it, learning that craft and ability
as the best comedians always possess distinctive style. So guess it's a case of discovering what suits best.
I'm writing comedy scripts at the moment (wouldn't ever be found under the stage spotlight though) and always be sure to note down observations, anecdotes etc. Massively helpful when starting to formulate a routine or script.
jack dee put it best that it's like flying when it's good, and when it's bad it's as if everyone thought you could fly and you stand rooted to the spot for 10 minutes.
would like to go for it again, but it's taxing and requires a lot of focus.
it's probably easiest to say that most comedians are funny to their friends but not a lot of people who are funny to their friends are good comedians.
why on earth i maintained any level of interest at all after that is completely beyond me
except it was when I saw a girl I was a bit in love with do a piss standing up.
I'll have a word with Bamos about a 5 minute peformance at the next Zonino. Maybe resurrect my orange pith/pith helmet routine.
Please elaborate. I'm intrigued.
not a chance, let's just say it's a colonial rollercoaster with plenty of hot gypsys thrown in. And Christoper Biggins.
You're selling yourself well. I hope you live up to the hype.
I remember watching one of my best mates do his first set and being pleasantly surprised by it. And then seeing his second set and being at a bit of a loss as to how to ever make eye contact with him again. Another one of my friends was actually approached by some BBC researcher to write a sitcom (no promises it'd be made, obvs) off the back of his blog, which I'd never read but apparently quoted and mentioned me a fair bit. Which is nice, I guess. Or at least would be if Lee Nelson's show didn't exist.
The worst thing EVER was inadvertedly catching the set of a guy I fucking despised as a comedian and human being who was sleeping with another friend of mine at the time, and hearing him get rapturous applause for making little comments, observations (BLACK PEOPLE HAVE NAMES LIKE CARL) and remarks that I'd made to my friend, word-for-word a few days earlier.
But erm, in conclusion, I'm not funny and neither are my mates. Unless we're in each other's company.
So what is the deal with people from under the orange sun?They're all...
But us guys from under the red sun, we're like... Right? Am I right?
he's one of the last people I expected to have done it as even though he is quite funny he's not exactly an extrovert, he's pretty quiet and mumbles a fair bit but he does go on rants sometimes and he said that's what his set was based on.
He wants to get back into it at some point, he quite enjoyed it.
that actively seek audience members to make fun of = always rubbish.
Yeah, if they get heckled or something distracting activity is going on, fair enough they get involved. Otherwise, you're sure to be watching a total amateur with weak material.
"excuse me love, pardon me for saying this but have i come across your face before?"
disheartening when this gets a laugh.
*audience falls silent*
Apparently you can either be above them, below them, or at their level. Above them, and you talk down to them with withering quips, like Stewart Lee or Jimmy Carr. Below them, and the jokes are all self-deprectaing and the audience are meant to feel sorry for you. At their level, you do matey observational stuff.
Apparently working out which one you naturally are and playing up to it is a key to finding your comedic groove.
i think i'd want to do the above and below though.
so i'd have a touch of that tony hancock middle-class snobbery, but all my stories would be quite self-depricating, so....i dunno...
not sure if you could make that work...i think rather than wanting people to feel sorry for me, the self-deprecating thing would just be an acute awareness of my flaws, but to try and make it sound like other people have the problem. like...tell a story about a bad incident with a girl, but make it seem like she's missing out.
a bit like when stewart lee talks about being fat and surviving on crisps. he isn't looks for 'awws', but there is a definite self-deprecating strand....
i think it's about being self-deprecating, but still thinking you are better than a lot of people, despite your flaws.
i wrote out loads of stuff last night, so now i actually have a rough set mapped out. just need to get drunk and perform it infront of some pals.
the hardest thing is working out delivery, whether to be quite deadpan, and what style serves the jokes the best.
Occasionally quite funny but felt more like one of those inbetween-programs bits on T4 only an extended, late-night version. Still comes across to me as a presenter auditioning to be a comedian.
I LOOK LIKE I'M GOING TO FUCKING LAS VEGAS = funny
and the bit where he was talking about having a cup of tea with that lovely old woman but for some reason he was thinking "I could throw this over your fucking head in a minute."
Mark Watson does a similiar bit about kicking a man in the back of the leg and then shouting ''I kicked you''
I think the style of show he went for with that (basically disecting the scandal) made it more like a presentation than stand up.
Ponderland regularly reduced me to tears
blast i spent a while typing that.
and knew of another. The one I know is quite young - 17 or 18 I think. Started off at school and has done various clubs around London now and Edinburgh last summer. His mentor is the other one I used to know, Joe Bor - he captained Hendon's youth team when I was in it.