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is it better than firefox? I can get it for my oldish mac now....
Works a treat, it's the only one I use now.
I've heard it's a data miner and will harvest (can you harvest the same resources that you can mine?) your search information &c.
The new version is Safari is pretty snappy, but yeah, Firefox is sooooo 2007 when it comes to browsers.
it's all style, no substance
Much better on my PC than FF in every way.
but it seems to have real issues with flash, but flash is going to be redundant soon anyways & it works with HTML5 incredibly well (the future)
Also it doesn't have a problem with Flash, just an issue with iPlayer sometimes that means a 10 second pause before you can watch stuff occasionally.
I'm guessing that it should be pretty standard.
It switches your first back to the last tab you used, which means you can quickly flick between two windows. This is how it should be. Firefox and Chrome prefer to make you always cycle through all tabs in order.
throughout Windows, Tab takes you to the next box and Shift+Tab takes you to the previous one. So Crtl+Tab to go forward one tab and Crtl+Shift+Tab to go backward one tab seems logical to me. And you can always use Ctrl+[Number] to flick between two specific tabs (though only for the first 9 tabs, presumably, although you obviously can drag the tabs and re-order if that's an issue).
Which is what I'm talking about. Try doing it in Textpad or Visual Studio and it works like Opera. The RIGHT way because if you've got 10 tabs open the chances are you're only ever going to want to flick between two. Keep pressing and you start moving through all the rest in order of most recently viewed. Use the SHIFT key to go through the other way. Very logical.
I understand the function.
But that's Alt+Tab. This is Ctrl+Tab.
Ctrl being used for other skippedy abouty things and Tab control stuff. Ctrl+K = search box, Ctrl+L = EARL bar, Ctrl+T = extra tab, Ctrl+W = close tab &c.
If you want the 'back-and-forth-between-most-recent-tabs-and-then-through-the-others-in-last-used-order' functionality in FF then would it not be more logical for that command to be Ctrl+Alt+Tab?
Alt+Tab = for applications
Ctrl+Tab = for tabs within applications
The problem is you're telling me how you *think* it should work but I'm telling you how it *does* work and how (as standard) it should *always* work. Applications with tabs should work like Alt+Tab does for all applications.
It's logical and it's right for CTRL+TAB to work in the way I'm saying. Any other way is moronic, slow and encourages you to have to use the mouse, which keyboard shortcuts are meant to avoid.
I'm just explaining my understanding and reasoning of why something's the way it is.
and the UNDISPUTABLY RELIABLE http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Control_key#Examples
Reckons that the FF way is in acordance with the broader Windows (and KDE/GNOME) way when it comes to tabs.
it just says 'next'. As there's no corresponding Alt example it's hard to tell but it's not giving specifics.
I gave you the exact way it works in two programs. Aptana works the same way but (weirdly) uses CTRL+F6, CTRL+TAB not doing that sort of function at all.
Ctrl+PageUp & Ctrl+PageDown seem to do the same in FF as Ctrl+Tab and Ctrl+Shift+Tab.
And on that basis, I'll agree that there's scope for Ctrl+Tab to act as you say (however much I'm not entirely convinced of the logic).
But it's no way near as uniform as you seem to be imply.
A quick random survey of a couple of programs tells me that Ctrl+Tab in IE, Paint.NET and Foxit PDF reader acts as per FF. Ctrl+Tab in Excel doesn't seem to do anything with the tabs. So it's not just me slavishly bumming FF on this one.
I'm giggling too much. :D
Come back here so I can slavishly bum you.
but like Chrome, you have to set it up in the settings.
In what way(s)?
Being such an open question imma <paranoia>bring in Google's 'phone-home' factor and tracking tendencies. They've got me on the Gmail and Reader front, but I prefer to keep things open and neutral on the browser front and</paranoia> Firefox is perfectly capable. If I wanted to use something else it'd be Opera. And I'm not sure I like the way that Chrome (the browser) is apparently morphing into Chrome (a cloud OS). Hmmm.
completely different teams/projects for the time being from what I've heard. At some point they may bring some of the tech across from the OS to the browser, but nothing to worry about there really.
In terms of what would be the feature of chrome (the browser) that sets it apart, I'd say it's the way it handles errors within tabs. I've had plugins crash and pages hang, but they've never frozen/killed the whole browser for me. To the extent that you can be wondering if one page is fucking up, and happily browse away on another tab while the first one is having a hissyfit. Basically it's very helpful if you use the internet website drownedinsound.com.
and on the rare occasions it does crash, it'll more often than not reload all the pages that were open at the time of the crash. I'm happy with that.
The stuff that I've heard is that, when all's said and done, ChromeOS isn't much more than a beefed up version of Chrome (the browser). In the meantime I'll defer to any evidence to the contrary. There are so many snippets of tittle tattle and rumour, but I guess only time will tell.
Chrome browser is just, well, a browser. Chrome OS is linux-derived architecture, user interface and browser. The only difference between it and a normal OS is that it uses the browser for more applications (ie. things that would usually be standalone apps).
It's been a couple of months since I tried FF, but it still had the same old issues (this is on a mac admittedly): lots of crashes, possibly relating to flash, slow start, etc. And does it still do that thing on windows with refusing to close properly ("an instance of firefox is already running" when you try to restart)? god that was annoying. I remember thinking that the thing was being dogged by the same issues that were there since version 1.x.. (again these may be completely specific to me/my setup)
I guess I mean that I'd read that ChromeOS will sit on top of a massively 'simplified' version of Linux (to the point where it'll be Linux handling the hardware and just about the only program available (or able to run) will be the Chrome browser) like some of those quick-boot media centre 'OSes' some PC m'frs install. I could've got some/all of that wrong, and my knowledge of that kinda thing is reaching it's limits here, but that was my understanding.
although I'm not sure as to why that's a bad thing about the browser itself as a piece of software. It seems to have encouraged a very laudable approach of speed, stability and transparency, presumably with the idea being that it needs to house other applications so should be as straightforward as possible..
<paranoia>[Something about an slick ickwle innocent bwowser being used as a trojan horse for a world where all your data are beholden to teh Googlez]</paranoia>
It's not a problem as such, but I've got my guard up.
when I had the entire forum on my back about my being worried by Spotify's ability to detect my volume settings? I might have had one other person on my side.
I do get the concerns over privacy, but have little more faith in the FF or Opera guys in terms of safeguarding linkable information. Data mining stuff I'm pretty much cool with; they make a cool browser, they've earned the rights to my non-identifiable data usage patterns and that..
My laptop at home is not connecting to the internet
we have wireless and its showing up as 'connected' when i check but its also saying 'no internet access'
my housemate can get connected to the wireless fine with full access. And i can get connected to the neighbours wireless.
Anyone know what might be up? or what i could try to fix it?
Here's some copypasta (hi _vikram!) that helped someone once, but i dunno if it'll apply to you. You might be able to extract something useful from it:...
Delete all your wireless profiles on your laptop.
Factory reset your router (check the manual).
Turn off your modem.
Wait for 2 mins.
Have your modem connected (but not powered) in as per usual.
Have your router connected to the modem (but not powered) as per usual.
Turn your modem on.
Let it do its shizzle for a minute.
Turn on the router.
Wait for 30 secs.
Decide whether you're gonna configure the router wirelessly or whilst connected with an ethernet cable. You should be able to do it wirelessly via your browser ok.
Typing in the router's address, which will be something like http://192.168.0.1/ - check the manual.
The only stuff you should need to worry about are changing the name of the network (the SSID) and setting a password for WPA security. Forget the rest. Let the router choose channels automatically, do DHCP funk automatically, etc.
You shouldn't need to complicate matters by mucking about and installing client software on you 'puter. Just let the operating system do its stuff, choose the network you just named and enter the password you chose.
If it's not happening, a) wait for a bit, b) turn everything off, go to step a) then turn everything on bit by bit, starting from the wall.
(Obv best to try the turn-it-off-and-turn-it-off-again bits before doing anything drastic)
i was thinking it could be a virus? because my housemates laptop works and connects fine. I tried most of that ^ the other night to no avail
but you can connect to the neighbours wireless, so...