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You couldn't MAKE IT UP.
"Premier League would welcome the sound in England", does it? More that "they might not be banned, you'd have to double check".
you could argue that 'racist' isn't the best term for the proposal, but it's definitely culturally insensitive.
This is not a football match in Europe. This is not a football tournament held in Europe and competed by European teams. With that concessions comes a realisation as to their worth and appreciation of what they add.
I like drone.
i just lied for attention. I'm lonely.
"Y'know, I'd take a million vuvuzelas over that fat cunt from Portsmouth with a bell. about 4 hours ago via TweetDeck"
"But some South Africans believe that there have only been so many complaints from overseas because the vuvuzelas are being blown indiscriminately by first timers rather than in unison to reflect the ebb and flow of the game, as is the case at South African Premier League matches."
I like this explanation. Certainly there was one game at the weekend (Ghana?) where the drone seemed to be more reactive to the game. They were making this undulating, pulsing noise at one point.
I think the uninspiring football from a lot of teams probably hasn't helped with crowd participation.
I haven't been watching all the matches 'cause I'm not much of a football buff, but that sounds worth it on it's own.
they need to be 'initiated' into its proper use
it was a wooshing drone that was really good and atmospheric. if they could do that during games it would be welcome.
just to turn them down a tiny, tiny bit in the TV coverage?
they must be able to do that, right?
just so people know I AM COOL WITH IT.
In this case.
as they all have different pitches, innit. Noise cancelling won't work on the plastic national treasures.
*I* can turn down the whole crowd. How much do these TV geniuses get paid? Less than me and my volume knob I hope.
Might ask my boyfriend if we can watch tv on mute, whilst listening to the radio for commentary, or something
embedded inside THE BALL ITSELF?
Then you could use it like the stump mike in cricket and hear all the sounds of the ball being punted about and turn down the feed from the crowd.
Oh yeah, silly idea, then the ball wouldn't fly straight through the air.
someone patch me through to NASA, tout de suite!
they just stuck some radio mics to some random runners and then broadcasted it - it was very cool, but not that relevant to this.
why meths? why?
i thought it was the ducks doing stnad up poos thread.
sounds like he's bitten it, poor little mite
If "vuvuzelas are an important part of the country's footballing culture", when we nick it won't that be disrespectful?
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if they also ban those knobs who play the Great Escape theme tune all sodding match.
Vuvuvvuvuvuvuvus do drown out the sound of whichever fan is nearest a pitchside microphone shouting at the players though, I miss that.
and are actually going to all the games and trying to be heard.
I doubt they've paid for every away game out of their own pockets, plus air fare fees for the instruments, for a decade and a half or so.
It's not strictly true - they play it one after the other.
two blokes busting out a tuba and a swannee whistle when they're doing shit
But they showed a few shots of fans singing today, and it all looked choreographed and awesome, and they were having such a good time. But you couldn't hear it because of the infernal vuvuzela racket. I think I hate them now.
he wasnt blowing a vuvuzela.
I will turn into a soccer thug if I turn up at my seat in August and there's some cunt with a vuvuzela anywhere near me. I don't pay £900+ a season to hear some mindless droning. I pay it to hear some daft bint blame a shit back-pass on Mikel, despite the fact he's not playing.
If they get them in Scotland, I'll have to sit through the atonal dronings thousands of Buckied-up wee neds and won't get to hear any of the objectionable sectarian chants.
but obviously there's going to be thousands of people who all think they're being smart and individual.
Because it's South Africa's heritage.
That's the most rock n'roll key there is - from Johnny B Goode to the Datsun's Harmonic Generator.
Vuvuzelas - officially indie.
that's why they can't be filtered out
Jesus fucking Christ. They're neither an inherent part of South African culture, nor are they the worst thing to have happened to the modern game. They're a bit of fun which create a slightly different atmosphere at games but also come with some downfalls. Some people need to get their heads out of their arses.
Awesome. It's revisionist history. They've existed since the late 90s and, if anything, have the weakest possible link to anything similar which existed amongst South African tribes. GOOD COPYING AND PASTING SKILLS THOUGH, WISHPIG!
2050? 2020? 2100?
Glad we cleared that one up...
If the article was over your head, just say so.
Neither you, nor I can say whether it is traditional, and therefore we should both shut up about it.
Unless you're suggesting that no one can ever say whether something has successfully managed to become an inherent part of a culture or not. Or whether someone's tall or short, or old or young, or fat or thin. Hey, I just made a sandwich. Is it part of British culture? Well since, as we've established, the only thing to consider is how long it's existed, and since that even by considering that, we can't possibly reach a conclusion, we're going to have to remain agnostic about it.
i'm suprised at myself because i fucking hate sunnO))), so you'd think i wouldn't take kindly to them...
but no...there's something enchantingly hypnotic about the noise that literally gives any game a good bit of buzz...also, when they do it properly and in time to the game like for SA and ghana....it's pretty special.
my big world cup gripe, mostly from northern woman so far..
'oof....i can't be doing with all that noise from them voovoozoleras (or any mis-pronounced interpretation).....i dunno how you stand it, i don't'
everyone who moans about them is a bit of a prick. i mean, if you are there, that's fair...i imagine it could hurt after a while....but don't moan if it's just the noise from the telly you fucking clot...
It's sounds like the stadium has been put in an air tight jar and left it in a cricket infested field.
people moaning about this is completely ridiculous....it would appear that the british are quite content to suffer formless gurgles ringing out like an alcoholics soggy fart week in week out, but they take exception to a proper atmosphere creator.
there are actually people on the guardian saying it's making them switch off. sweet jesus, what a bunch of tossers.
actually, saying that...i hope they don't have them for the game on friday so we can hear god save the queen parped out every ten minutes...summit special to hear, that.
To be fair, I think Mr.Lad just wants Lampard to do a goal rather then hear plastic vuvu's wrapping the players in Angelo Badalamenti ambience.
i've watched first three of twin peaks....good, good stuff.
this quote on wiki articulates exactly what my head has been trying to get at
''Twin Peaks is not a sendup of the form. Mr. Lynch clearly savors the standard ingredients...but then the director adds his own peculiar touches, small passing details that suddenly, and often hilariously, thrust the commonplace out of kilter''
That approach to a pre-existing framework (soap opera >>> strange, Lynchian soap opera) is what I would love to do.
They're measured at like 120 decibels each. Jesus.
Health and safety!
You think you fuck your hearing at gigs? Now a visit to a league game could do more damage than standing next to the speaker stage at Dinosaur Jr.
The Royal Festival Hall falls into hushed silence, as she sits down, takes a sip of water from a bottle, tips the harp back on to her shoulder, readies her fingers and leans towards the microphone, ready to start. 2,000 pairs of eyes are fixed on her, waiting for the beauty to crack the silence.
it would be good though.
i might start a 'places you'd like to hear a vuvuzela' thread.
Wouldn't much fancy them domestically but they make a great 'USP' for this World Cup I reckon. Let 'em drone, let 'em drone, let 'em drone...
the way people are saying stuff like 'oh these Africans have a reputation for being more colourful and rhythmic than this'. seriously i read that in the paper the other day.
the article didn't really say that. I was totes lying.
Correcte? I fractiori your cheekbona
and get away with it.
but I thought after maybe one or two "JEEZ this is why I hate the guardian" replies someone would call me a nob and the thread would die.