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I don't think I could tell a sycamore from a birch.
Started looking heavily into trees this weekend.
Treelore is my specialist subject.
I would love to take you all out for walks and tell and show you them.
Also tree alphabets.
i was shocked when doing the BBC 7 day quiz the other day at their statement about how few people could name a sycamore.
just a type of Sycamore? Becausre if not, their leaves are vehsimilarr
the plane is not even a member of the acer family
(you will know acers better as 'maples' they all have sugary sap....the native british maple is the field maple 'acer campestre')
you give shade to the cows
Weeping willow and silver birch (it was possibly just a silver birch & hallucinogens though).
silver birch and willow are really going to hybridise as they are too far apart, different families (betula and salix)
in fact there might even be something slightly evolutionary about this (some last hurrah before we stopped evolving) cos the birch is so widspread in temperate climes and they're all quite similar in form and cos they are so useful, it could be that the presence of their form provokes an emotional response in us (just a possibility, a wondering, i've no proof at all)....like reckoning mentioned about alders being pioneers.....so are birch, this also might have made proto humans feel comfortable about the terain that they are entering if they encountered them.
Interesting DIS-peurile freindly fact
Downy Birch is called betula pubescens
Road signs and traffic lights tend to be metal.
I can tell most British trees from each other. Apart from the seeds, which are easily identifiable, sycamore leaves are a similar shape to maple leaves, and birch tree leaves are like a pointed, dumpy, and slightly serrated oval.
(UK natives at least). But it is kinda my job, so i'm expected to really. Poplar ftw.
they have catkins AND danglies
all pioneer species are great by virtue of the balls it takes to colonise somewhere before anyone else. Gutsy.
I can id all the uk ones too, but not all foreign ones.
Can you id stuff like strawberry tree (when not in fruit and flower) and spindle tree (when not in fruit or flower?)
I'm an ecologist, so i gots to be able to ID them during general habitat/botanical surveys. ID from winter twig is obviously more testing although the massively restricted 'wild' distribution makes our paths crossing quite unlikely. This is the case, to a lesser extent with the spindle (in Scotland) - i've not encountered one for years...
Im really envious.
Yeah it would be great to go out cos people coming at stuff from slightly different angles can always learn something different from each other. I have to go about 8 miles to find my nearest spindle tree (that I've come across)
PS I love pioneers (^) too, not just on a species basis but as inividuals as well.
right now (without flower or fruit) I could probably not id a spindle tree (which is why i asked those two questions)
My grandpa has this habit of pointing at trees and expecting you to be able to name them, so I had to learn
I haven't picked it up but it's something I'll focus on when I get to 40
I did this shit so much as a youth
and not from no trees either know what I'm saying? (I looked at female humans)
It was ace. I saw more Reed Warblers and Reed Bunting than I know what to do with, and a bird with a big head that I can't quite put my finger on what it is yet.
and apparently I *have* seen a Reed Warbler! Good times. Reed Buntings I've seen several times; they're like a Yellowhammer it's ok to brag about nabbing.
What did the bird with the big head look like? Not a water-rail, surely?
That sort of flat-foreheaded quiff-haired thing going on. I've assessed my options now and decided it was a baby Marsh Warbler.
And that's my final answer.
I waited around for a water rail to show his or herself but to no avail. I think the wittering old women who settled down next to us in that particular part of the reserve may have put off any potential visitors. The wrinkly bastards.
are there any good sites for us to just hear the calls of particular birds that we are likely to encounter (radio 4 did a short prog doing that and it was ace. but then i forgot stuff...need a reference so we can all id those lbj's (sorry thats what bill oddie called em)
I'm shocking on the calls unfortunately. I wish I were better, because then when I hear some strange noise I at least have a vague idea of what to expect flying out of the undergrowth. At the moment it could be anything from an emu to a lost child.
so I'll hopefully be spotted, lesser, among SE England's finest reserves, dictaphone in hand
still have a decent water vole population? I hope so.
I didn't think it was good.
why the fuck would i need to?
unless its either a christmas tree or a palm tree.
a) wtf tree is this weird leaf from?
b) There's a tree across from work...a young little diddy one I think. It's got narrow leaves and blossom / flowers that are a greeny white and look a little bit cauliflowery.
[countdown clock music]
and all ruffly and cauliflowery, as I just mentioned
its a rather ancient type of tree and kind of in its own rather isolated branch......i believe that holland and barret sell it for enormous mark up (as they do with loads of stuff)
but doubted myself subsequently
if id called it maidenhair tree would that have confused you?
any idea on b) btw?
I can prolly go out and twock a leaf if needed
but at this time of year whitebeam and rowan have large infloresences of white flowers so maybe its one of those.
My initial guess would be rowan (mountain ash) (sorbus acuparia) or Luis in my tree alphabet.......can you remember, does it have orange then red berries later in the year (they're really sour....made rowan jelly twice, but both times too sour to enjoy)
Rowan is commoner that whitebeam and their infloresences (clusters of flowers) are still a bit greenish, not fully white on some trees.
Tell me are the narrowish leaves arranged in pairs, opposite each other on a sort of stalk with lots of othjer pairs of leaves on (in the same plane)?
Is this it?
glad to be of assistance
The rowan or mountain ash is not particularly related to the big ash (fraxinus excelsior, although the leaf arrangement is similar) the rowan is in fact i nthe rose family, like other trees such as cherry apple pear hawthorn (may) blackthorn (sloe) plums damsons peach apricot whitebeam,almond BASTARD service tree (there got your attention back) etc.....strawberrys raspberries blackberrys, burnet meadowsweet so we should be really appreciatative of the rose family for being so benificent to us.
in fact the only nasty that the family produces is prussic acid (cyanide) in smallish quantities, but luckily you can smell the presence of this (almonds/cherries). Humans should revere roses cos of its benefits to us and our love of its fruits......which it makes for animals to eat to then distribute its seeds.....so I would ask you to carry out your part of the bargain.......OK you aint gonna poo on the floor, but please rather than throwing apple cores/pear cores in the bin, throw them onto some receptive ground
srsly apple trees do like having libations of cider poured or flung at them
it's only really necessary to know the difference between evergreen and deciduous. I can't imagine a scenario that would require me to urgently identify a hawthorn tree.
This week our detectives are called upon to inspect the remains of some sort of tree. Stars Sean Maguire.
they know pretty much everything about trees/birds/the sounds birds make/animals/mountains and what they are all called. I knew much more as a 10 year old than i do now though, but i've retained quite a bit.