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20 scientists re-gurgitate Gods work
Im sure venter has sold his sold to the devil.
I mean, he's seemingly not *that* an impressive mind or scientist come to that - yet he's fucking rich, traded his wife in for a younger model and has been at the forefront of some pretty amazing science breakthroughs.
The Americans have it so all these new weapons will ignore anyone with a vague amount of Irish DNA in them.
when my kids tell me about this, i'll tell them i was too busy wondering whether the writers of battlestar galactica knew the plot the whole time.
and distory humanity
I do not know too much about Biology.
of the type we all hoped would not be at the forefront of serious scientific breakthroughs like this but every scenery eating sci-fi film and book assured us would
The guys is amazing
He claims he wants to develop synthetic organisms to effectively harvest sunlight into energy - kind of like plant baterries - but before even creating his first synthetic organism he created a synthetic virus!
He has sold his soul to the devil for sure
That's so lame, he could have at least created a dinosaur or something cool.
"you think you're doing well with your basic life forms ? I'VE GOT A FUCKING DINOSAUR" *dinosaur actually appears*
viruses are much more simplistic things to re-create, with far fewer genes and more basic structures though? not necessarily because he wants to create "HIV II: The Bloodening"..
first thing they do is sell it to an oil company. fucking typical human greed.
they're private sector scientists, what are they supposed to do?
All 20 of them
genetic origin ~*sigh*
was Odyssey 5, but science fiction aside I'm interested what kind of changes this development ushers in fingers crossed for synthetic neuron based computers.
I vote for Carl.
''After several rounds, the scientists had pieced together all 1m letters of the bacterium's genome. To mark the genome as synthetic, they spliced in fresh strands of DNA, each a biological "watermark" that would do nothing in the final organism except carry coded messages, including a line from James Joyce: "To live, to err, to fall, to triumph, to recreate life out of life."
I'm betting on the Arabs. Followed by all old people.
He's created DNA and injected it into a cell, I'm no biologist but the man on the radio 4 this morning is.
It doesnt have any of the properties that make a cell 'life'. The cell they created then reproduced itself like millions of times as well, so.. essentially they have.
Its actually incredible. The first life on earth whos origins arent from exactly the same point. Its... unbelievable
but you get the jist
But the fellow on radio 4 was saying that creating the cell is very difficult, much more difficult than what has happened so far and isn't something we will see in our lifetime. No doubt though that this is quite important nonetheless.
If I get 5 minutes I'll read up on it myself a bit more, so basically I'm going to teach myself all of biology in 5 minutes.
I was under the impression that they didnt really need to be able to create the actual cell, just the dna. You can just use one from a cow or something.
Someone that does a biology degree or something clarify pls?
when they inject the synthetic DNA into the cell, the cell then takes on the characteristics determined by the DNA, hence creating a new cell "synthetically".
the origins of the outer membrane of the cell doesn't matter, that can be obtained easily. What's remarkable is that the DNA which encodes everything inside the cell and ultimately it's function is entirely synthetic. It's as much "not created life" as giving birth to a baby but putting it in a preprepared plastic box is "not creating life".
"We refer to such a cell controlled by a genome assembled
from chemically synthesized pieces of DNA as a “synthetic
cell”, even though the cytoplasm of the recipient cell is not
synthetic. Phenotypic effects of the recipient cytoplasm are
diluted with protein turnover and as cells carrying only the
transplanted genome replicate. Following transplantation and
replication on a plate to form a colony (>30 divisions or >109
fold dilution), progeny will not contain any protein molecules
that were present in the original recipient cell (10, 24). This
was previously demonstrated when we first described genome
transplantation (10). The properties of the cells controlled by
the assembled genome are expected to be the same as if the
whole cell had been produced synthetically (the DNA
software builds its own hardware)."
Thats from Venters paper on it
They transplanted the genome into an existing cell, but have culutred it so that the cells that exist now are truly synthetic.
taking mehodors analogy, the baby in the plastic box has divided over and over again, each time creating a new box, with new copies of the box inner components, from the synthetic genome. With division, proteins organelles are divided, so a synthetic progeny (new baby in a box) may contain proteins that are not synthetic, but with time, and more divisions, you end up getting a baby in a box who has created the box and everything in it - it is truly snythetic.
I might sound like an idiot, but from reading the paper - they havent done any "amazing" science - theyve just done a really complicated copy and paste of an existing genome which has quite a bit of plastic integrity within itself - lots of genes are "disposable" as he puts it. Not taking away from the breakthrough - it is amazing - but sytnthetically creatingmore complex cells, with more phenotypic plasticity etc is where the real breakthrough will come.
i doubt anyone will read this
This is the first thing I actually bothered to read from this post.
Given that he tried to patent the human genome back in the 90s, before the heroic John Sulston (hero) foiled him, I imagine he'll be similarly protective over who can exploit this technique. I believe he's already signed a deal with Exxon to produce an organism, which can take carbon dioxide from the air and turn it in to fuel, which is pretty awesome; but one would hope that it would be as widely available as possible, rather than just owned by one company.
ah fuck it, i got nothing :)
and it'll rile the Pope like fuck. Excellent.
Ventner's on my very short list of people I'd love to meet and just thank them for everything.
really think it is that surprising, though very impressive. It been possible to do this for a while now and though I havent read the paper yet Im guessing its a similar procedure to that of genetically engineered organisms, except the DNA you inject isnt from another organism but is a synthetic copy of a bacterial chromosome (though the two are indistinguisable aside from their origins).