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BLUE NUN ALL ROUND
(i think it was him)
from when I was doing A level Government & Politics during Labour's first term and I found her deeply irritating, although the specifics as to why I found her this way escape me.
Someone tell me about her.
but someone on here laid into her for some fairly sound reasons. RoastTheMonaSpit, maybe?
sends kids to private school ?
"I'm a massive hypocrite and all you guys are too because you'd do exactly the same thing in my position," which is probably true of 99.9% of those having a go at her.
Sent her kid to a fee paying school
Is on the telly with Portillo
Voted against Iraq
Voted against Trident
Voted against ID cards
He seems quite a different person to the early 90s.
over the course of about 10 years. And I like people with no ambition.
Must've been around 1999/2000. Some idiot in the audience kept shouting abuse at him, it was pretty funny.
Maybe I should let this rivalry die...
but he has said that he wants to be MP for there hasn't he, or was that a joke/lie?
I was going to sign his form allowing him to stand actually, but the boundary changes meant I wasn't in his ward any more
but i'd love to see her doing PMQ's with cameron
She's a fucking idiot.
three playmobil men, a twat and the first black woman to be elected to the house of commons
So many of her comments make me angry. It's like she has the complete inability to think through anything before speaking, and refuses to accept that maybe [insert senior party member] has a very good, kind of obvious reason for what they're doing and decides to start screwing things up.
She seriously needs to learn to shut the hell up.
Do you mean as in old school proper Labour or Tony Blair and his pseudo right-wingers whose very good reason for doing what they were doing was a misguided belief that "Thatcher wasn't too bad, really"?
Anyway, an ability to be irritatingly hotheaded seems to be a key requirement for leadership. I'm sure whoever Labour vote in will be the wrong sort of leader.
going on the news channels mid-coalition talks and saying what a bad idea it was. EVERYONE knew that. Seriously, she thought Mandelson, Campbell, Adonis, Balls, Miliband, Miliband ETC didn't know? That they actually thought it was going to happen? LOL.
Well, anyhow, now instead of the news being "Lib Dems choose Tories over Labour", it's "Labour MPs block progressive alliance".
Way to help your party there.
And I don't know what news you take in, but it has very much been the former than the latter.
Well, somewhat less so because I share more political sympathies with him, but her certainly annoys me. A great deal.
but people like honesty (or at least say they do) and one of the other candidates is ED BALLS
But better than Balls.
I probably want Ed Milliband to get it but can't say I'm passionately enthused by him.
like a horrible, smug school teacher
if you say something she doesn't agree with she raises her eyes and does this...'don't be a silly young man, i don't think that's true now is it?'
eeurggh. horrible, fat, smug, hippo-bitch.
i was actually gonna start a thread the other day about how awful she was.
i mean, soem policy she might be ok on, but personality wise she makes brown look like fucking shaft.
YOU'RE ONE OF THEM
that's what all politics is based on isn't it?
that's why the entire election was based around three public debates right?
that's why brown got so little spublic support right, because he had a bad smile?
well i'm saying, playing by those rules, she makes my fucking skin crawl.
i thought we were allowed to be like that towards politicians in this country?
being bitchy and nasty about anything other than the politics holds them accountable doesn't it?....that's the rules that thousands of twitterists and have i got news for you play, so i'm just towing the line.
that's the game we play....that's why everyone goes on about cameron's man tits and brown's spastic disabled eye...
don't get on your high horse just because she's a black woman.
ahaha...look at her face....ahaha
Josie Long is a fan of this
and in the Telegraph says if she wasn't so left wing she'd be perfect what with her being the first genuine human being (and one with an actual personality) to declare, and she breaks up the young, slim dark haired, white male oxbridge monotony of the new politics by being the opposite of some of those things.
I mean obviously it's obviously a good thing if everyone in Parliament isn't young. slim, dark-haired, white and male but you've still got to choose an individual at the end of the day based on their own merits, not what they look like or represent.
You can obviously vote for them 'cos of that; it's just silly to forget you're voting for an individual who is more themsleves than the class, gender and culture they represent.
how about her fairly decent parliamentary record?
The Telegraph don't so their comments are a bit silly
I'm not talking specifically about whether someone should or shouldn't vote for Abbott, just that her being a black woman in itself isn't a reason why she's a good candidate, which is what they seem to be implying.
it's only a blog column entry
and it has more to do with her being a real person with a personality instead of her being a clone with no experience of the real world like the others
and lego man
I mean she went to a pretty decent school, I think, and then Cambridge, then was fast-tracked civil servant, then the media then politics.
At first glance she's not really been much closer to the 'real world' than Balls or the Millibands.
also the others all pretty much went
special advisor-cabinet in about 5 minutes and barely had to brush passed the public on the way
where as she's served as an active backbencher for a long time
and shes a MOTHER
which she is streets ahead the other candidates on
But then you've got Creaky below who's lived in her constituency and isn't convinced by her commitment to local campaigns.
I mean I don't know she doesn't do this stuff but I don't know that she does any more than other politicians either and I just worry about myths getting tangled up with fact. If someone can give me something substantive then fair enough.
but creaky's argument below seems to be based very much on perception - I don't know out why he thinks she hates the poor, the homeless and social housing.
Then realised the woman I was thinking of was Theresa May. Oops.
If Theresa May put in for Labour Leadership that would be amaze-balls
but I bet you're being an arse further up this thread. I won't read it.
what have you done with the real gerosdfsdfsdf
I'm done thinking today.
It's an art.
portillo and aitkin
in fact i think that with aitkin there was a matter of one being the godparent of the others sprog.
When I was living in Hackney she did not seem particularly concerned with homelessness in reality, (although publically they obviously talk a different talk) she actually seemed to be quite against really poor, i dont think she likes them, she obviously likes rich cultured tory men more.
I think that she was quite keen to sell off communal housing.
Of course I was seeing her from 'the other side' so to me she appeared to be leftist in name and reputation only.
On the plus side if she were the leader of labour, then she would be able to make a very good working partnership with cameron if she were deputy pm and they were to have a coalition with the tories, and im sure the tories would welcome this too.
Diane Abbot (a supposed champion of the left and the underprivilaged and the oppressed) asked Jonathon aitkin (SP on purpose), a man who was heavily involved in arms deals with non democratic elements, and a man who has been involved with torture equipment trade (electric shock batons) to non democratic countries.....to be the godfather to her child.
A left winger who is supposedly champion of poor oppressed people thinks the best person to give her child guidance and advice is a man who has profited from the sale of arms and equipment to oppressive elements.........sorry LLB but to me this represents more than, just being freinds with people who have a diferent opinion to yourself.
The image of Cameron embarrassing her at PMQs is enough to give anyone a monster erection.
like most bolshy, patronising 'i say what i think , and i think what i say' type people....she's come up with a funny when doing her outspoken schtick.
Dunno why really.
It seems to me that someone who gives up their principles once they're no longer convenient doesn't really have principles at all.
Ws she particularly outspoken against private education then? That would make for shittiness.
and then sent her kids to a private school.
To be fair to her she was open about the hypocrisy of her position but nonetheless it's still an utter abandonment of principles that to me bodes ill for a party leader. Or indeed politician.
I also vastly prefer Portillo over her on This Week. There's something about her that I can't quite put my finger on that I really don't like.
Portillo's not always correct, but his ability to argue his way out of a hole is so much stronger it's almost embarrassing.
She's not a particularly great debater but, to cut her some slack, her '42 days speech' - http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2008/jun/12/terrorism.civilliberties - was pretty storming at a time when Labour's flagrant disregard for civil liberties was at it's zenith.
Having cut her some slack, I entirely agree with the sentiment re: her hypocrisy over private schools. It's a pretty weak abandonment of principles.
and you guys should not be looking at the packaging but at her behaviours, not the fact that she is 'a woman' and 'black'.......although it is a good thing that a 'black woman' could be the new labour leader, it is not necessarily good that this one is.
Please see below
"Diane Abbot (a supposed champion of the left and the underprivilaged and the oppressed) asked Jonathon aitkin (SP on purpose), a man who was heavily involved in arms deals with non democratic elements, and a man who has been involved with torture equipment trade (electric shock batons) to non democratic countries.....to be the godfather to her child.
A left winger who is supposedly champion of poor oppressed people thinks the best person to give her child guidance and advice is a man who has profited from the sale of arms and equipment to oppressive elements"
When i was close to people who did lots of campaigning and action for the dispossessed in hackney, she was known to be a hinderance and a blocker, like a middle class school marm, who (in private) didnt seem too keen on the underprivilaged.