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I think more.
its exactly like the thick of it
what a hero
Something like 'people think we're scared of the general public, and i hate it, i hate it because it's true! Why do they all wear t-shirts with writing on, and why are they all so fat??'
This whole "bigot-gate" thing massively reminded me of that scene...
She sounds like a bigot.
I do quite like the surly, "I am the boss", give-a-fuck side of the big man.
I mean, I'm willing to be Cameron, Clegg or any other politician you wish to name has said much worse things about "difficult" members of the public, it's just they haven't had their mics on.
Although now I'm in the uncomfortable position of showing empathy for a guy whose insulted an old woman. Hmmm.
Brown's mistake was getting caught in the act.
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how do you like it
"she is a bigot fat old bitch the mans aloud to say wot he wants..... hes against people from rochdale .. gets my vote"
You big loser.
(if you reply to this and tell me it's unpossible not to have one or something, I am going to throw you into the sea)
I happen to agree with him
by sue sue
Yarr! I hate the sea, and everything in it
but when he let's rip about the whole thing he seems much more human and likeable.
Let's face it - what would YOU say if some old righteous crone kept interrupting you, walking off when you were trying to speak, and moaned about immigrants? I would've said a bit more than he did
Someone is cajoled into pushing things that bit further towards claiming utter outrage at something that's fairly innocuous, all told. The meeja claim it's a big deal. But a fair old chunk of the population goes "fair play, guv, I'd have probably done the same thing".
She looks like she's got a gob on her the size of Ben Nevis
This has the potential to be our 'Joe the Plumber' moment.
"whose idea was that?"
excellent. How could someone possibly like him less after that?
what a hero gordon brown is
No he wouldn't.
This is disgusting. I feel physically sick. Vote for change.
but only because he would never consider Eastern European bashing bigotry, but policy
For once he's not tagging the Blaimeron line that 'everyone is right really, and we care what you think'. Sometimes people are wrong. And they need to be told so, because that's what government does. To quote Margaret Thatcher: Government must be strong to do the things that only government can do. And that means occasionally telling people that they are wrong.
People are fucking morons. God bless representative democracy. I'm currently fucking terrified of the Big Society.
"All these eastern Europeans – where are they coming from?"
the answer's Eastern Europe, shirley?
I swear i've seen half this election campaign on The Thick Of It though. And why was he so angry with the interview? Yes, the woman actually was veering towards bigotry but Gordon directed her away and had won her vote. But i'm sure they all do that and its just Brown who has been caught.
but instead about his new PPS or something...
He should have spun it, though.
"Look, what the audio doesn't show is I had just picked up my Thatcher-print punch bag..."
I think my disdain for politicians peaked a while back and thus I can't be bothered to get irked by them anymore. The general public never cease to annoy me however. I pledge my vote to the first party leader to take to the streets swinging a golf club wildly at unsuspecting passers by.
there's a point where the public end up feeling that a guy's just being persecuted/bullied. With Brown, we reached that point a few months back and the British (on the whole) don't like that, so opinion swings round.
*side-note* Haven't seen this - don't have earphones with me.
I mean, given her age and demographic, it's not surprising. I wouldn't call her bigoted but I'd definitely not want to have to chat with her at a dinner party or anything.
But there's something humanising about hearing Brown slag her off here, which is I think why people are getting behind him.
"you can't say anything about these immigrants."
"all these Eastern Europeans. Where are they flocking?"
"What are you going to do about students who're coming here?"
"I'm thinking about my grandchildren. What will theyhave to pay to get into university?"
I think it sort of sounded that way but she was meaning students who are coming in the future, with her question about tuition fees.
The worst you can really say about her is she simply voiced all the nameless fears fed to her by the likes of the Daily Mail.
is a terrible look.
She made bigoted intimations without outright expression of racism - it's a fair call to think her bigoted, but to say it out loud, having at least answered her immigration concerns fairly, is asking for trouble.
I think this will benefit Cameron more than Clegg, unless Clegg really plays it well. It's simultaneously dumbed the level of debate down further, and offered an opportunity to the Lib Dems to really round on the Tories. I'm not optimistic, though.
No one has any time for that and it probably would have been far worse to try to get into that sort of thing.
He should be more capable than you or I of understanding why people have these views and he shouldn't just write someone off. He should understand and if he disagrees he should be passionate and committed to making her understand why her views are wrong. If nobody else in the country is like that the pm should be. He's not up to it.
I mean he should have access to social and cultural research studies that give insight into why a lot of people think this way and if not he should get some scientists on the case! And once that's done he should be trying to figure out systems of government that can shift these paradigms and using language that does the same. Not calling someone bigoted.
much of which is down to timing. If you get into a discussion about this sort of thing with someone in the street like that you're not really going to change anyone's views and you're either going both end up standing around on a street corner for ages or it's going to turn ugly, in my view.
an enormous impact on things to be honest. After Chris Grayling's recent remarks on homosexuals I certainly don't think the Conservatives can claim any moral high ground.
My point is that while coming from a bigoted POV, she didn't say anything particularly reprehensible, as voter vox-pops go - and GB revealed weaknesses in his outburst that he'd allayed while talking to her. He was able to counter her often slightly misguided concerns in conversation - but slightly misguided is what they were, not full-blown exclusionist batshit
He did enough, but it was pretty weak sauce, probably due to time concerns. But it looked even weaker after what follows. I think I like him less, because he's fucked up. If someone's bigoted, don't dismiss them, engage them and show them why they're irrational!
he certainly didn't intend anyone to hear him call her bigoted, but he was hardly wide of the mark in saying it. It's slightly unfortunate but not that big a deal i don't think
it does seem a weeny bit suspicious that it was Sky who made and released the recording. I wonder whether other broadcasters would have made the same decision.
In fact, Nick Robinson is quoted (http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/blog/2010/apr/28/general-election-2010-live-blog) saying:
"For those of us that have known Gordon Brown for many years, what we have just seen is no huge surprise, I have to say."
Which would at least imply that journalists have heard similar things and not reported them before.
oxford university conservative association (who were recently banned for a while from using the word university after a big scandal involving large amounts of casual racism).
what a tool.
The Tories have Murdoch's support because they have promised to cripple the BBC and allow him to take over ITV and receive TV licence fee subsidy for his vast empire...and then Sky News leave a wireless microphone on the PM, effectively bugging him in his car.
I liked the bit where he said get real last week
Also he was made prime minister during a worldwide crisis on the back of a massive war conspirecy.
All the papers have been changing what she says from "flocking from" to "coming from" becuase they know what she said was bigoted.
Saying flocking implies they are animals, so Gordon was right.
I think the Guardian nailed it with "Step Outside Posh Boy". Labour should change their strategy. Stop the smiles, just have Gordon go round the country acting macho as fuck telling people what's what
and UKIP immediately try to convince her to vote for them.
This might have been posted before, but if not:
My mate lives in that constituency and has been posting updates with this guy's official election videos, they're incredible:
He's clearly properly stressed out, everything's going wrong, and then he makes an amateur slip like that that could end any chances he had of staying in office.
It's obviously not right to call someone a bigot privately after being all friendly with them moments before, and I wouldn't vote Brown or Labour. But I wasn't going to anyway, and I honestly don't think it's as bad a gaffe as Cameron's interview with the Gay Times a few weeks ago...
I like him less for apologising, even though I get he was just playing the game
he was grinning when he said his apology. This won't play well.
...and i like it.
Mandy'll have her over a slow fire before the day is out.
whether she's a bigot or not, I think ploliticians should hand out insults to the public more often. I'd like to see Cameron retort with "stfu, faggot" to a difficult question or something, that'd get my vote.
I don't understand how the statement 'I've worked my whole life' is much of a defence against being accused of bigotry.
I've only worked since I was 16. That must explain why I'm such a big fan of the Jim Crow laws.
it was just a comment to close advisers in the heat of an election - how are they meant to talk to each other? they're going to be honest and say things that wouldn't be said in public, no one can be so naive to think cameron and clegg don't review their day in similarly crude ways.
That he actually give's a fuck what a skaggy prole thinks of him.
You think Cameron would even have heard what she said or cared enough to be affected by it?
my favourite thing about this, at the moment, is his aide who's standing right next to him going "tell her about this policy" "tell her we'll double check her tax credits"
If there was any justice in the whole wide world, this would win him a landslide.
is what I would have said if my laptop hadn't run out of battery as I was completing registration...maybe tomorrow.
"Catriona likes The State."
they'll never be able to pass it anyway. They've definitely gone off the whole IDea anyway. But wont say so to save face.
It would've made him an absolute legend If he'd just said she was being bigoted to her face, you know, when she was being bigoted.
Instead he just smiles and agrees with her then starts whining to his aide when he thinks no one is listening.
Have some fucking balls Gordon.
this is my favourite political moment since Prescott kicked that woman's cunt in for hitting him with an egg
It was a theory floating around in the UK Polling Report comments.
Thought I'd bang it into twitter's search (I don't have an account) to see if it threw up any links.
i don't have an account1
it's sometimes useful for grabbing a link to something before search engines have spidered it. just letting the cretins1 do my searching innit.
As pm anymore
Obv getting his heavies to kick her head in
I WILL NOT INSULT LABOUR SUPPORTERS
Does that make me racist?
Also, they shouldn't have even released this the bastards. It's not in the public interest. The real story should be WOW LOOK AT THE BLANANT POLITICAL MOTIVE OF SKY NEWS. If anyone at the bbc had any scruples at all it would be.
people flock to stuff all the time