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if you visit NAMBLA's homepage, could you be prosecuted if someone checked your internet history? i just googled it there and i'm not sure if i should go any further
I said: You just need to claim it was research.
it seems to have been shown to be the truth. Not that anyone lets that get in the way of their 'justified' disgust with Pete Townshend and Chris Langham.
independent.ie? The Mail's circulation is probably greater than the entire Irish population.
And to be completely brutal, in a country that can't even legalise abortion a bit of casual homophobia isn't really a surprise to me.
Independent would be the most read paper in Ireland. answer my NAMBLA question
I don't know that it's a particularly low blow: Ireland is incredibly affected by a religion that, among other things, passionately despises homosexuality. There are a lot of similarities between our two countries but a hell of a lot of things aren't the same.
and overestimating the sway of the church. trust me, the church is about as respected as..well..paedophiles are..in Ireland.
I'm talking about the way it shapes the country from what I've seen. The lack of legal abortions is just one aspect of that.
you can't just align it to Catholicism, and it's certainly not as morally black and white as homophobia is.
Were you looking to get a job at the Irish Independent or the Mail?
Irish media displays provincial attitudes.
This is me staggered.
I've never heard of it. And to be honest, I'm not going to try and look it up...
although the organisation is as secretive as possible to avoid the law. look it up on wikipedia, it genuinely exists.
so i presume i won't get arrested for clicking, here goes
"To explain man/boy love today, one must first explain what it is not: It is not what you view on television or read in newspapers. It’s not what you hear on Oprah or Geraldo, nor is it the propaganda put out by police and politicians.
It’s the love of a man for a boy, and of a boy for a man. Enjoyable, consensual, beautiful.
Frequently Asked Questions
Frequently Asked Questions About NAMBLA and Man/Boy Love
Q: What do you seek to accomplish?
A: NAMBLA was formed in the belief that if people knew more about the actual nature of typical man/boy love relationships, that there would be less unjust scapegoating and persecution of boys and men who have such relationships.
Q: Why do you oppose age-of-consent laws?
A: Opposing age-of-consent laws is not our only focus; it is one part of our broader criticism of North American social and legal practices. We believe that these laws do great harm to people and relationships that do not deserve to feel the crushing weight of the heavy hand of the law. Just as important, age-of-consent laws do not adequately protect young people. They have often been applied arbitrarily and unjustly, and have long been used to terrorize gay males. Gay youth in particular have been targets of extreme persecution through the selective application of age-of-consent laws.
Q: What is this “ageism” you refer to?
A: Ageism refers to age-based discrimination, and includes the tendency to discount and devalue the feelings and opinions of children and youth. This tendency pervades our society and has implications in every area of a young person’s daily life: at home, at work, while shopping, hanging out with friends or going places, and especially at school. It has the socially corrosive -- and costly -- effect of breeding fear and distrust between the generations and isolating them from each other.
Q: What do you propose in place of age-of-consent laws?
A: Age-of-consent laws are those which say that if you are under a certain age, then what you say doesn’t matter. We believe young people would be much better protected by laws -- and social attitudes -- that take their opinions, feelings and decisions into consideration. We have never proposed specific laws, but in general we advocate changes in society and the law to include greater respect and consideration for children and youth -- not merely in the abstract, but in each individual case. We reject the cookie-cutter approach often used by authorities, moralists, and legislators who presume to know what someone wants without asking them, and who claim to know what is best for every person without having met them. Individualism -- the belief that each person is important and deserving of respect -- is one of the core founding values of North American society. We advocate for a society that lives up to this ideal, as it applies to people of all ages.
Q: How can society best protect vulnerable people?
A: The claim is made that age-of-consent laws protect the vulnerable. In practice, they give undue power to those who already have power -- police and prosecutors -- while removing power from some of society’s most vulnerable populations -- notably, gay youth. We believe that vulnerable people are better served by giving them more choices, not fewer. Children and youth can be made less vulnerable by giving them more options. Those who need to escape abusive family members or other abusive situations need more options than we as a society currently provide them with. Those who live in poverty, those who face racial, religious, and sexual prejudice -- all need more options, not fewer.
Q: You make this seem like such a noble cause, but isn’t it really just a selfish one?
A: There is a much bigger dimension to the issues we raise, with implications for everyone. The interest that all people share in widespread access to truthful information is more than just philosophical. Too often, politicians take advantage of gaps in public knowledge, and play on public fears to divert attention from their own actions. When they are allowed to do this, the result is bad government for everyone (something we’ve all seen plenty of in the last few decades). Our efforts to educate the public on the issues of man/boy love, ageism and anti-sexualism are intended to help bring about better informed public policy and an electorate less vulnerable to politicians who would use their fears against them.
Q: Do you believe it’s possible for a boy and a man to have a close, even sexual relationship, without any harm?
A: Yes it’s possible, and it happens every day. Many studies have confirmed that the large majority of sexual contacts between boys and older partners are both consensual and harmless. See below for a listing of some of these published, peer-reviewed studies.
Q: But aren’t these relationships always initiated by the adult?
A: No. We know from experience that some boys do initiate sexual contacts with adults. This is confirmed by several published studies, which have found that a substantial percentage of boys' sexual contacts with older partners were initiated by the boy (see references below for details). "
ok i feel fucking weird now
"It's possible, and it happens every day."
Just reading some of the other articles accredited to this Iain O'Doherty, and he is just dreadful. Not just because his views make the BNP look progressive, but because he's not a good writer. Sample quote:
"Honestly, a German with a grudge against the Jews?
Hmmm, I'm not 100pc sure, but that seems to ring a bell somewhere in the back of my head"
North American Marlon Brandon Look-Alikes
or is this a defence of the right of a mouse to dress however he or she chooses?