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which is the best of the non-premium brands (bells, famous grouse, teachers etc)?
the difference in cost between a mass-produced blend and a bottle of a good single malt in a supermarket isn't so big as to make any sense in doing otherwise really
hmmm, asda has jura single malt for £17. any good?
is there actually an outright bad single malt whisky though?
Quite a clean taste, not too deep or peaty. For £17 you can't go wrong. Also it's in a cool bottle.
but it must be too angry to appear.
if you're going for a blend, this is the one to go for : )
At the upper end of the peaty/harsh scale though, so probably not a good one to start on. Jura's good too.
If you don't mind going to an online seller or dedicated whisky shop though, I can recommend Ben Raich. Not too expensive, and they have an awesome sherry cask which is comparatively subtle and drinkable.
I prefer the peaty Isle of Islay ones. Laphroig is good, not so fond of Jura,
For a good starter one, I really like the Speyside single malts. Very light and almost refreshing. They have a very tangy/citrusy flavour that is great for summer whisky sessions.
On an alternative note: I'll be shot for saying this, because it's sacraligious, but the smoky/peaty Islay single malts work great in cocktails with non-overpowering mixers (ginger ale for instance) because the smoky element adds a whole different dimension to the drink.
and the difference was extraordinary. I used it as a substitute for the vodka in a white russian, I can't remember what that was called but it was magnificent. You can't be too precious about a drink.
someone who has the same attitude towards drink as me.
I can't abide people who speak of fine wines and scotches as though they're fine peices of artwork.
Fine drink should be respected - but all that means to me is that you enjoy it in the manner of your choice.
I went for a whisky tasting in Edinburgh last November, the chap who ran it was extremely knowledgable, but he said there were no 'rules' about how you drink it. If you like a drop of water with it, or ice, it's your choice. It should be enjoyed. Amen.
...who was a tour guide at the Scotch Whisky Heritage Centre. Think there may still be a picture of her on their website!
Fuck me she could drink.
I think the place I went was called the Edinburgh whisky experience.
A cursory glance on their website shows they have rebranded as the Edinburgh Whisky Experience. Cool. The SWHC was a bit of a cumbersome name after all!
And they've changed all the pictures on the website too by the looks of it...
They had a rather corny ride whereby you sit in a 'barrel' and it moves along a track showing you the whiskey making process. That bit was ok i guess, but the tasting was fantastic. We were told about the 4 main whisky areas and we had a large glass of an example of each to try. The Islay one was a limited edition laphroig (i can never be bothered to spell it properly). The tasting was a real eye-opener. I didn't know for instance:
- Whisky does not age in the bottle.
- The strength of the whisky must be very specifically controlled if it is to be called 'scotch whisky'
- The barley itself comes from abroad, so the only 'ingredient' which is scottish/local is the water
- It is made using bourbon barrels (cheap as chips because bourbon has to be made in a frsh barrel, so there are loads available) or a sherry barrel (seriously fucking expensive these days)
I know you guys probably knew all this, but I didn't. Actually knowing a little about whisky and how it is made has made me into a real fan. I cannot get enough of it at the moment.
My Dad took me when we were in Kinlochard a few years back and the guy who ran the night was similarly adamant that it should be enjoyed however we see fit. In fact, it tends to be the English who treat it like some precious elixir.
All that bullshit about the correct glasses for each drink, and the perfect temperature to serve certain wines at. Must be an english phenomenon.
(it is at this point that I declare myself a Cornish national)
Is also just marketing, it makes no difference
You seen the size of the head on a pint of guinness poured in one go?
It's obviously negated when people don't do it properly, the second time is meant to be without gas
single malt should be drank in a crystal glass with nowt else you big girl's bra.
I like how it has the worst/cheapest label, but is one of the best/strongest ones.
And it's Jameson's.
Thank me later
but i don't really like it
That Jamesons's is the finest of the non-premium brands (to answer the question asked). That's fine sippin'.
I would say that the only one I find pretty disagreeable is Teacher's.
But I would also agree that you're better off dropping an extra fiver and getting whatever single malt is on offer, specially if it's all for you. It's probably going to last you somewhere between a fortnight and month, no? So splash out old boy.
Winner, very very nice indeed.
G'moranjie is nice too.
...£1 of the price goes to the RNLI! Or it did when I bought a bottle a couple of weeks ago.
out of all those
what's wrong with you? do you have no taste buds?!
is delicious in my opinion. Quite sweet and not too peaty.
Deffo ginger ale
But not really sold over here. But they serve it in the Crobar and a shop near there. I don't know much about whiskey mind. Ginger is also the best mixer.
as a frequent whisky drinker myself. I am in a rush so can't say all I would like to, but most of it's been said anyway. What I will say is that I've had the odd blend that I actually prefered to some single malts I've had. My brother gave me a glass of one of his best single malts recently (I can't remember what it was now. I'll find out) and I found it tasted rather clinical. I much preferred the special edition bottle of Famous Grouse that he had, to my surprise. I am quite sensitive to citrus tastes though, so it could just be that the more refined bottle had some citrus notes in it that turned me off. I don't know though, personal preference can be a hard thing to analyse. Basically, what I think I'm trying to say is, people shouldn't necessarily turn their noses up at blends in general because as I say, I've had one or two that were really quite palatable and a much more relaxed drinking experience than some of the harsher single malts out there.
Its just like "UHHHHH PEATY UHHHHM PEAT". It tastes like that "hungarian smoked cheese" you get in little sausage shapes at supermarkets that has "liquid smoke" in it.
I prefer talisker or springbank.
i like black bottle. Is that classed as premium?
Talisker and Springbank are both Speysides aren't they? Pretty much the opposite of an Islay malt.
Laphroaig works best after a heavy meal I think.
When I was up there last April, it was £20 in the Co-op in Portree. Bargain.
Probably my favourite whisky, nice balance of peaty and honeyed (bearing in mind I like the peaty side of things). I found the Balvenie doublebarrel too smooth tbh. Never really tried stuff older than 15 though, which is when they really start to hold their own apparently.
Old Pulteney is an excellent whisky that you can often find sub £20, Jura's good as well.
i went on a tour of the Penderyn distillery recently, it's the only distillery in Wales, and the tasters I had were really nice. Tried the 'normal' one, one stored in sherry casks, and a peated one. The normal was the best.
and most people have bowled in with single malt preferences.
Teachers is fucking rank, Bells is OK, Famous Grouse is the one i tend to go for, partially on taste, partially (well mainly) because it's from Perth (where my Dad's from) and they used to sponsor the Super Js.
Actually, the last couple of times I've bought blends it's been High Commissioner (which is rank, really cloying and sickly, but it was for whisky marmalade) and Claymore (which wasn't too bad, probably a bit harsh though)
I've heard good things about bailie nicol jarvie though, tbh I think Jameson's is the best blend for the money.
Gonna try Chivas Regal and JW Black on a Cathay Pacific flight soon though... Hopefully.
Famous Grouse has always been my preference.
I say 'disappointing', although I suppose it is somewhat of a budget single malt. My mum's always giving it to me but I find it's all like WHOOOOOSH up the nose to begin with but then scarpers pretty quick with a Listerine leave.
Yes, I am ungrateful.
Strange, nobody mentioned Highland Park (maybe I read too quickly an already long thread)- Very classy.