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yeah ... that's what we need, the fans getting a say
Ridiculously transparant pre-election bullshit. I can just see it now:
Government Twatfarm: "So essentially the plan is for you to put all your money into developing the club, and then give a quarter of it to some conglomoration of fat sofacore morons who have never done anything in their life to do whatever they want with it. What do you think?"
Club Owner: "What's the difference between that and my original idea of flogging the shares to a rich Saudi oil magnate?"
Government Twatfarm: "These people are British and will therefore vote for me."
Club Owner: "I see..." [presses hound release button]
It's populist but essentially meaningless.
First off, how are we defining fans? It implies the "fans" of a club are one homogenous body of people that act and think as one which clearly isn't the case so I can't see a structure that'll make it work in a way so that fans get a say without it becoming an appalling management by committee style thing where nothing gets decided and everything ends in a compromise that's unsatisfactory to all.
Second off I don't honestly think most fans are equipped to run a football team. You spend more than two minutes on any football messageboard, even one for a club you support, and you realise very very very few posters have a sound grip on football. You'd end up with poor decisions made for sentimental reasons, kneejerk reactions, constant fickle shifts of direction and owners with naive expectations. Whilst I'm far from convinced he was a Newcastle fan before, I think the Mike Ashley regime is a pretty good model for what you'd get in the majority of cases from fan-run football club.
tories strike back with 3 hour corrie episodes every night BY LAW.
Is this just a rouse to make Pompey fans responsible for all the tax that the club can't pay?
1) Yes, blatant electioneering, and so it'll probably be poorly thought through and a disaster.
2) Supporter ownership clearly can work. See the fifteen or so Supporters Trust run clubs in this country (three of which are in the football league), every single club in Germany, Barcelona/Real Madrid...
and only getting away with it because the banks that back them can't say no and the taxman doesn't always chase them as hard as he could do
technically being insolvent, is it?
If the government are saying that fans owning a quarter of their clubs would solve all of football's problems, then they're clearly barking up the wrong tree... there's no silver bullet. Notts County's Trust were a great example of where it hasn't worked, for a variety of reasons.
That said, there's absolutely no reason to claim that the concept would be a disaster. About 40 clubs in the UK have supporter representation on their boards and around 100 clubs are at least part owned by supporters groups. The vast majority haven't imploded as a result.
may even help the current situation. Can't make it any worse, although can we say that after Liverpool go tits up
then tried to fix it by listening to the fans, then changing his mind again
the people of Manchester are a level headed and pragmatic folk who understand that paying 40 quid to go see a football game whilst wearing the wrong coloured scarf is the kind of thing likely to bring about long term financial reform to the game