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didn't he vote in favour of section 28?
doesn't the european party have awful britain-hating people like daniel hannan as it's leading members?
criticising Lithuania's homophobic legislation (it's akin to Section 28, but for the whole of society). The Concersative MEPs didn't sign it, perhaps because they're now allied with those on the far right in the European Parliament.
I don't think Cameron 'hates the gays' - he's just having diffiulty dragging the rest of his party around to the view that to do so is not electorally advantageous.
What with this and his belief in global warming and support for the NHS, if I was him, I'd begin to wonder whether I was in the right party.
also this article is pretty neat
while Cameron was bigging it up as his number one priority over here.
he is supposed to be quite influencial though so he's probably being kept onside (just) enough to placate the classic reactionary 'bigot' nasty party tories
"Conservative European parliamentarians had tabled a motion on press freedom in Italy a month after the Lithuanian vote."
No doubt the interview was a fuck up though - given this wasn't the only part he was unable to respond to properly.
The fact that he's pulled the Tories into a partnership with more extreme-right parties in Europe who are seen as being explicitly homophobic and his personal record on Section 28 (albeit having since apologised) don't reflect too well on the Conservative Party's record on Gay rights anyway, so it's not unreasonable to expect him and his advisers to have done the research on topics that are obviously going to come up.
To apparently have not bothered is nothing if not disrespectful to the people interviewing him.
Or are you just a fan?
it does seem to have struck a bit of chord in terms of how he's perceived.
There's a feeling (mainly from a media angle; can't really say what that means in terms of the public) that he's a walking briefing; that he's lost if he tries to go off-message. Again, I'm not saying that this is what I think of him; but it's the schema that a lot of people do hold about him, and this is a fantastic bit of confimation-bias footage to back up that image.
I think all the attempts to have him come across as more human face for the tories might be responsible for this; I'd like to be able to refer to 'too much sheen' without mentioning the billboards but I can't do it. He needs to be able to go off-message and give the impression of speaking with his own human tongue, hopefully also while not offending a big load of gays
of a floundering pre-election campaign since early January. Individually all the 'problems' are small beer, but as with Labour last year, when they're so frequent they build an easy story for the press to get their teeth into should they choose.
They've got two big chances to turn that narrative around again. The first is with today's budget and the second is when the campaign proper kicks off (probably next week). If they can't nail one or both of those opportunities, then I think they'll be in a lot of trouble (relatively speaking) come May.
i think it would be irresponsible for him to take a new job that sees him away from home and working odd and late hours with a new baby on the way.
a parent's place should be with their children etc
his time in charge was pretty disastrous but considering the authoritative figure he's become since it's hard to imagine it's the same man. maybe the party machine was running his tenure.
that Hague was just pushed into the leadership too early and at an impossible time. Can't say I agree with his politics, but I've got a hell of a lot more respect for him than David Cameron since I always get the impression he believes every word he's saying. It doesn't feel like everything's dressed up behind PR with him.
I doubt he'd have built the lead that Cameron managed to for the Conservative party last year, but at the same time, I don't think it'd have dropped so far since September if he'd been presented with that lead in the same situation.
and why would they want to follow it?
'Good call, George. It'll cement our place in history.'
and why would they want to follow it - well, it's about politician's integrity isn't i- oh.
I think there is no doubt who will be in charge.
considering today's "Great ignored..." speech "slip-up": http://twitpic.com/1dm6qj ?
If something looks like a duck and quacks like a duck?