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I know everyone rates him on the comedy front, but wasn't Peter Cook one of the most hateful guys around?
Having seen some Pete'n'Dud stuff, and a doc on it all, it seemed to really overflow from the sketches and into real life, as if he was properly resentful of Dud and his various other interests.
sounds about right
in which case Spike wins
I wasn't talking 'The Beatles', I just think there are lots of parallels between Cook and Lennon in that they were both immensely talented, changed their respective fields forever, known for being in famous partnerships and growing to resent the more 'commercial' partner, brilliantly charismatic whilst at the same time often being petulant and flawed and spiteful, and both died tragic deaths before their time.
and Cook was better than them all.
goons = 50s rock n roll, Chuck Berry, Elvis, etc. (Where rock n roll = foundation of modern music/goons = foundation of modern comedy).
Python = Beatles (Developing of music, experimentation, psychedelic rock, avante-garde brought into the mainstream/Python = all that except comedy instead of music).
In the way The Beatles admit they pilfered from American bands from the 50s, etc.
at a stretch... Dylan, or something? Or was he just so flipping cool and genius that there is no musical equivalent and if there had of been one, the Beatles/Stones/Dylan/Elvis/everyone else all would have been left in the dust?
Although since he was with Dud, the only comparison musically is...er...Simon and garfunkel? But solo, Dylan would be, at a stretch, his equivalent. Although if he was a musician, I'm sure Cook would have left them all behind. 'cept The Beatles, because I'm biased as fuck.
best thing to do is forget about it and watch Lennon and Cook together (with some stupid Brett Anderson talkinhead crap)
I remember seeing this on Beatles anthology. This is the thread what keeps on giving.
I haven't seen anything he did to be honest.
Almost everything he did professionally was funny.
He was a comedian.
one of my favourite ever films.
But now I know it's not, I'm a little confused what is about.
WHICH DO YOU PREFER 'battle'
Can't have the meat without the veg, can ya?
(I don't know what that means, either)
They are of different times.
Chris Morris exists in a time when you have to be funny and engaged to be satirical, whereas in Cook's time was satire= Tory disdain for politics in general
"I said you cheeky cunt, how dare you say hello?"
I love doing stuff like this. More threads like this, please.