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Anyone recommend some good poetry?
Open to discuss, etc
it's for my dissertation on the literary reaction to the Iraq war.
Its translated from Arabic so it has that typically stark, slightly detached feel to it, not helped by the subject matter of course.
Bleak, but i'm really enjoying it.
If you like bleak, detached war material, I can also suggest a book called Kaputt by Curzio Malaparte.
It's breathtakingly grim.
Get 'All Of Us' by Raymond Carver. After about three poems your life will have changed significantly.
Also look into Pablo Neruda, seriously.
which is a shame as a lot of it is a match for his prose.
I also really rate Robert Frost and Ted Hughes. Never read as much poetry as I feel I should though.
and i second your last thought too. I obsess over certain poets, but normally at the detriment of broadening my horizons.
high windows - larkin
wild swans at coole - yeats (though any of his stuff really)
crow - hughes (massive goth option but some incredibly good writing)
lunch poems - o'hara (really light blank verse stuff but totally awesome)
screw the dating show i'm going out with you.
i literally am in awe of his economy. his first 5 books are some of my favourite ever. (i like to gloss over his friendship with prince charles though).
where do you stand on yeats? give me a yes and it's on..
Asita you are heavily involved in the cricket threads too and xylopwn is one of my new favourites on here... Its like we were made for each other.
it's a big horse buddy. Clamber up.
so do we ride off into the west country now? with hughes as a mentor this could all get pretty dark..
Lucien would be the insane psycho killer in this scenario.
.... a little too quiet some might say. Can we name the horse please?
As is Rilke obviously.
William Blake unquestionably lovely and as a little known one Anno Birkin is great.
which always makes me feel like i'm reading the wrong stuff. any suggestions?
Its pretty phenomenal.
I am in the mood now.
'Snug' is probably the one I'm happiest with, on the first page. Give em a go when you have the time.
I forgot Scout writes too! I'm going to check her out NOW
I was expecting some standard dross but very different but nice. Will read on. Bravo
consider yourselves bookmarked.
They're completely chaotic and utterly deliberate at once.
allen ginsberg, walt whitman and poe
fav poem a super market in california by ginsberg
As a fellow beat afficionado, you're on our collective horse too bro. It's POERTRY BONDING.
And I'm not crediting you either.
Nice scruffy/proud jux. there, too.
Also it ends in an oddly satisfying way. It's about as far as a cat's thoughts reach, and no more. I like that.
i'm not sure this thread was intended as a thread to inflict on us all
william carlos williams is a favourite of mine
In regards to your first point: just fuck off mate. Everyone is enjoying themselves here, and each others' poetry.
Be negative for the sake of it somewhere else.
you've just recommended a poet, which seems to be stopping halfway.
wcw's awesome though. i love anyone who doesn't waste language.
as I too have failed to name the actual poems.
so: top one for me is Poem For Karl Wallenda by Carver
and i'm struggling to resist posting poems here wholesale. in fact i shan't any longer. this is one of my favourites by ken koch, riffing on wcw:
Variations On A Theme By William Carlos Williams
I chopped down the house that you had been saving to live in next summer.
I am sorry, but it was morning, and I had nothing to do
and its wooden beams were so inviting.
We laughed at the hollyhocks together
and then I sprayed them with lye.
Forgive me. I simply do not know what I am doing.
I gave away the money that you had been saving to live on for the
next ten years.
The man who asked for it was shabby
and the firm March wind on the porch was so juicy and cold.
Last evening we went dancing and I broke your leg.
Forgive me. I was clumsy and
I wanted you here in the wards, where I am the doctor!
it's the 'i am sorry, but...' on line two of verse 1 that in particular makes you go 'cheeky bastard!!!'
Forgive me as well. It's that reproach throughout. it's... GOD THIS IS FUCKING AWESOME.
i absolutely adore it. i find his pastiche poems to be really interesting because they seem to get in amongst the alchemy of poetry, that balancing of language that makes them work, and then mess around in their.. sharpening the emotion just a little bit till it's funnier and more awkward.
this is my other (obvious) favourite of his:
Can I go left field and shyly push a fantastic Clarke short story on you? http://lucis.net/stuff/clarke/9billion_clarke.html the ending is a jaw-dropper.
really good stuff.
Also its nice for a thread to be comfortable enough for people to air their waves. If I was a hippy I would tell you stop fucking with our vibes but i'm not so... piss off
there's enough shit talk from everyone including myself everywhere else on this ruddy board, but the poetry thread can be a little safe haven.
Now all I'm waiting for is dood to show up and quote Se7en at me about poetry to ruin this :(
I cant believe i have not read it before, its very touching and humourous at the same time.
Reccomend me a book of his to start with please?
are basically perfect. they include all of his poems published in the same order as in their individual books, so there's really no reason not to get them.