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It looks like Chester are dead. That is all.
23 Premier League games so far in February and not a single away win
As Lo-Pan predicted yesterday, we beat the Edinburgh Huns and Rangers struggled against Motherwell where they dropped two points. Great stuff. SSN said that Motherwell were all over them. The gap has been cut to 8 points. It should be 7 points...Motherwell were denied a perfectly good goal: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/m/motherwell/8509762.stm
Rangers face Hibs at Ibrox on Sunday while we are away to Aberdeen.
The gap could be as little as five points at the start of next week with two derby games left.
Dundee United lost at home to Hamilton - a massive result for both clubs. Kille won away to Falkirk (YASSS!!!) to put them right in the shit. Hibs came from two down to draw with the dandy dons, result doesn't really help either sides. The battle of the saints ended in a draw...good point for each of them there.
We pummeled Hearts. They didn't have a sniff. Keane's movement off the ball is absolutely sublime. He'll score a hat trick very soon if he keeps playing like that.
Yeah we fucking struggled against a well organised well side and their offside goal looked suspiciously onside hmmmmmm, happy with the point in the end. I said to my brothers before the game last night that if we take 7 points from the next 3 games i'll be delighted, so that's 1 point down 6 to go although easier said than done.
Didn't catch any of the sellick game but heard keane could have had a bundle.
For the record the pitch at fir park is a fucking disgrace and has been for about 3/4 years now.
Craigan's the only player in the 6 yard box, so how the hell the lino's managed to flag Forbes I'll never know. Supporting a 'diddy team' you get used to getting shafted by the officials against the Old Firm but that's the worst call I've seen in nearly 20 years watching the 'Well. We should have held out anyway, what was Reynolds thinking letting a ball come across him in the 6 yard box?
And aye, the park is brutal but we managed to pass the ball on it which is a hell of a lot more than Rangers did. That's four times I've watched your lot this season and they've been terrible each time, no imagination or invention anywhere in the side. Celtic must have been playing blindfolded all season to be 8 points behind that shower of shite! It's dark times for Scottish football if that's the best team in our division.
Yeah, you were robbed. And fuck knows what reynolds was thinking, just watched it back in the bbc website and i still can't believe it.
I have made no secret of the fact that i think we play some utter shite but Smith gets results and for the time being that'll do for me. If celtic had been taking their chances this season they'd be about 15 points in front of us. Thank fuck for samaras :)
Yeah the park was shite but you still managed to move the ball about, it wasn't meant as any excuse just an observation. When the fuck are you lot gonna get that sorted though?
but we did in the summer! If you remember the first Rangers game at Fir Park, it was totally lush. We ripped everything up in the summer, drainage, undersoil heating, the works, and laid a new pitch from seed. We had to play our first 2 Europa League qualifiers in fucking Airdrie cos the work was still going on. Apparently a new pitch has a dodgy first winter at the best of times, so this year's extreme snow and cold has pretty much destroyed all the good work done in the summer. Ultimately we've paid the best part of £400k (which we don't really have) for a good pitch for 4 months. It's pish at the moment but from what I've seen of other grounds in Scotland no-one's exactly got a bowling green right now!
The thing that gets me about Rangers is the complete lack of any ambition to even try to play football. McCulloch as a sitting midfielder? Whittaker on the left wing? I'd be fucking raging if I was paying money to watch that. Davis is the only player I'd credit with any sort of creative spark and while he's surrounded by such pish it's easy to keep him out the game. As a mate remarked to me, when our kit man shakes out Steve Jennings' shorts today I wouldn't be surprised if Davis fell out!
Can disagree with any of that, but desperate times call for desperate measures. We are fucking skint and are gonna be for some years to come and till then we are just gonna try and grind out results because results are more important than playing attractive football.
I don't want McCulloch playing anywhere for us (although in fairness he has done a job so far this season) and i certainly don't want whittaker on the wing but we don't have a lot of options right now and Smith famously is apprehensive about giving the boys a go.
If we manage to win this season i'll be over the fucking moon and won't give a monkeys how we got there.
The party is over, its time to go home...
is that it took so long for Chester to go. A real shame for the fans who seem a good bunch but no club can survive such crass mismanagement over such a long period of time. There seems to be a good drive behind forming a new club, hopefully fans owned. I for one, wish them all the very best.
Villa drawing, Liverpool and Spurs losing. 'Arry's dream of 3rd looks rather far fetched after Wolves completed the double over them.
Liverpool will sneak it on the last day - finishing about 40 points behind the top 3. 4th really is there for the taking. I don't really mind who finishes there so long as it isn't Liverpool.
It'll be us thank you very much.
'Unstoppable' Chelsea lose at Everton.
United drop points and pass on the opportunity to slate the ref.
Flimsy entertainers Arsenal grind out a stultifying 1-0 over Liverpool. Pool could maybe have had a pen at the end, but then Gerrard's a cheating prick so fuck 'em.
Also Diamanti's freekick was awesome and congrats Wolves on making an arse out of Harry. Again.
But was outside the box.
Can't believe Man Utd have had 10 own goals scored for them this year (though four or so in the last week admittedly).
but it looked like it was heading for the top corner
it would have been a 2nd yellow for Fabregas too meaning a red and a suspension, the FA might even look at it if the ref didn't spot it
I bet they have now I've written this...
and the video panel judge a deliberate handball then that's a 2nd yellow
but yeah, won't happen, just saying Fabregas was lucky not to land himself and his teammates in the shit
they can't take one away so I assumed they wouldn't be able to award one either
Webb might have noted that he thought it was ball to hand therefore no dice
but if he totally missed it then maybe yeah
I think the ref has (or is supposed to have) control over the teams from the time they enter the dressing rooms at the start till they leave them at the end.
but this is the FA we're talking about.
i am delighted that arsenal closed the gap in the premier league although it probably won't make that much of a difference.
1) Why wasn't there a prize in this month's Goal of the Month? Are things really that tight at the Beeb, or is it just taken as read that Ashley Cole has it won already (noteworthy mentions to Pienaar, Rooney and Pedersen mind).
2) This is the oddest Premiership season in years. One week teams like Spurs, Sunderland and Everton seem awesome, the next terrible.
3) I'd like to resurrect the 'Terry is World Class' debate.
have stopped running competitions like that because of the whole 'FIX!' storm that keeps cropping up.
2) It's great
3) Me too :)
for the last three months or so.
they still been awarding it to the player no? Maybe it's just cos it's Cashley.
2) Yep. And we still can't take advantage of it. Yes, we're back in with a shout after results went our way last night, but even if Chelsea & Utd do drop points, we still have to win pretty much every game from now till the end of the season, and as much as I'd love to be wrong, I can't see it.
3) Is there a debate? :)
We hardly created a thing. We're so reliant on Lennon it's embarrassing. Wolves played very well though to be fair, and they probably should have had a pen. Great evening for City.
John Terry's been granted compassionate leave for the weekend after Louis Saha ripped him a new one last night........
1) Great win for West Ham with some fantastic performances throughout the team. Lovely goal from Diamanti. Out of the bottom 3 but still very very tight down there (yeah yeah).
2) Good win for Everton and a bit of a shocker from JT. Obviously one bad performance doesn't make him rubbish but if people kept saying how professional he was in the last couple of games does last night make him unprofessional? Also compassionate leave? C'mon, you see players playing who have just had family members die.
3) Nice to see Harry take the blame for Spurs defeat due to his tactical masterstrokes. Also nice to see Gudjonson start well.
is a bit wank...
admitted we were rubbish (which we were), said that wolves played well (which they did). He wasn't making excuses. Is you dislike because his team selection?
because of the change of players and tactics he made, Anyways I actually wanted Spurs to hammer Wolves last night
but then the players played poorly as well. The team that was put out should have been strong enough to beat wolves, but it was only really Bale and Dawson who were on their game imo, so it was always going to be tricky. We'll try not to fuck up against wigna for you next time...
he admitted we were rubbish, sure, but why were we rubbish? Was it because he decided we didn't need our 2 best midfielders and 1st choice striker?
but he couldn't have foreseen so many regulars playing so avaregely. He's also on a hiding-to-nothing with Crouch as there's a fair percentage of spurs fans who begrudge his starting due to the tactics it promotes.
I have no qualms with him dropping Crouch - we're really struggling for goals at the moment, irrespective of how well we've been playing, so a change up front was a logical decision. If he'd dropped Defoe, we'd have been without a player in our front six who can clear 100m in less than 15 seconds, so Crouch for Gudjohnsen was the only change that could reasonably be made. (Had Gio still been around, however...)
Resting Modric and Palacios was absurd though. Harry said it had nothing to do with the Bolton match on Saturday and he just though they could do with the night off having played a lot of matches recently, but I don't buy that. The same could have been said for half the players who started against Villa, but he didn't rest them. No, he rested our 2 best players. You don't do that unless you're saving them for something else. He's fucked up here.
what difference is one game going to make? I would have been quite happy to see them rested against Bolton.
but then football forums aren't exactly internet think tanks
It's more 'leave because we don't need you for this piss-easy game'
Headline from yesterday's Guardian Sport section: "Nani finds maturity to turn Sir Alex Ferguson's trash into treasure"
Headline from today's Guardian Sport section: "Reckless Nani ruins United's chance to seize pole position"
I love football in 2010.
Being a football journalist must be a real minefield this season, everytime you give an opinion it's disproved within a week.
Disappointing thing is that despite all the mentalness, the table will probably look roughly as expected come the end of the season. Chelsea or United on top, Arsenal and Liverpool making up the rest of the top 4, band of 2 or 3 that couldn't quite edge into 4th, mix of well organised, on-a-budget sides and underachievers in midtable and Pompey + at least one of the promoted sides relegated.
I just like that it just shows up the slightly over-the-top way that everything has to be phrased at the moment. One good game and you're the new Pele, one bad one and you're the new Dean Austin.
ARS-EH-NOOL, ARS-EH-NOOL, ARS-EH-NOOO-WOOL,
ARS-EH-NOOL, ARS-EH-NOOL, ARS-EH-NOOL,
we're massively going to win everything again. it was one of those days when all the results go your way. spurs lose. wolves and west ham win (hope they both stay up), man u dont win, chelsea lose.
barnet lost at shrewsbury tho. :(
two well taken goals from louis saha. you know how arsenal look at didier drogba and just know he'll score against them when he plays? that's louis saha for me.
but yeah john terry had an abysmal game last night, as did ricardo carvalho. cech probably should have done better for the second goal but saved the penalty well. everton fully deserved the win as far as i'm concerned, they took the game to us and we never really looked settled...well, for about five minutes leading up to our goal, we did, but after that we decided to let everton play and that backfired. they're a more direct team than arsenal, you can't let them have the ball because they'll launch it into the box and they actually have quite tall strikers.
"who was tall who played for everton last night?" game?
he's over six foot, that's tall.
i'm not claiming he's kareem abdul jabar, but he's clearly tall enough to head the ball.
like, say, tim cahill
fucking hell you're annoying.
the second was particularly bad. oh well, still wouldn't replace him with anyone. anyway i thought ricardo carvalho could have covered the shot and blocked it, but what can you do now.
pretty much the same thing and mistimed his jump and Saha had a shot
i blocked it out to be honest. horrible watching last night, though it was a great game of football.
but those kind of headers are meat and drink to Terry so it was very obvious he was having a 'mare
Everton's 'front six' from last night:
It's hardly land of the giants out there.
and they'll be towering above most people
are there even 2 there?
i know more about everton than i do about any other team, due to watching football with my mate who supports everton ALL THE FUCKING TIME.
Liverpool are the worlds most boring team.
i dont understand it either.
that's tall enough. taller than any arsenal had on the pitch, apart from bendtner who didn't know what he was doing on the pitch.
"not as tall as arsenal"
when i compared them to arsenal:
"they're a more direct team than arsenal, you can't let them have the ball because they'll launch it into the box and they actually have quite tall strikers."
thanks for contributing brusma, it's always fun. now don't reply to me again, please.
was a headed goal. i saw it described as a "league two centre half's goal". scored by 6'2" diaby, who played against you on sunday too
oh, and i think i'll continue to reply, thanks :) it's too entertaining showing you up to be rather dense
i don't even think they launched the ball into the box in that game. i didn't see their game as i was watching ours but it sounds like wenger has changed it up a bit, to give them the added dimension, or plan B that people said they lacked. whatever, the point is: arsenal had no directness against us, everton did. their players got into better positions and tested our defenders. that's simply it.
very nice brusma, wouldn't expect anything else from you mate.
you seem to have forgotten i'm following you on twitter. showing off to all your internet mates about how you're winding people up on the internet - pretty sad. get a life, you curly haired spacker cunt.
all i ever deal in are proportional responses to things people do or say. ergo, "don't reply to me again" is met in kind. and a reference to enjoying seeing chelsea fans annoyed is made with an audience in mind who have previously said - via the same medium - they very much enjoy annoying arsenal fans. all completely fair, i'm sure you will agree
well I don't love it but it amuses me a little.
Now about this dog?
because i can tell from this thread, you're bored of KiK and pocketmouse, and want to pick someone new to follow around the boards and reply to, every single time they post.
winding up arsenal fans is alright, but i think my point was about how easy they are to wind up. mention fabregas, a team in the lower half of the table and how well he seems to play against them and they're off. i get what you're saying though, fair enough.
arsenal fans are incredibly easy to wind up, aren't they? all i said was "fabregas - great against bolton"!
7:41 PM Jan 31st from TweetDeck
that wasn't even about this thread, as well, it was about a friend of mine, but whatever.
stones, glass houses, it has all the ingredients
i'm worse than john terry
else tomorrow. He has to amuse himself somehow doesn't he.
Anyway, it's all by-the-by. I'm off to make the tea round. Everyone in?
milk and 2 sugars please.
The new company only started trading in the summer. Since then, they've managed to run up over £700k of debt.
£53k to HMRC
£33k to Council (rent and business rates)
£10k general expenses (coach company/rates/training/printing etc)
£78k to other football clubs and football staff
£33k to other (admin) staff
and a frankly astonishing £485,911 to the Vaughan Family for loans since the summer. Fuck knows what that was actually spent on, since Chester don't actually seem to have been paying anyone else what they owe.
THAT JOHN TERRY, JUMPED UNDER THE BALL.
that the same person who owns chester is also a player for the same club?
I'm not sure he's played much this season and it's pretty widely assumed / known that his Dad's been pulling the strings behind the scenes since he was disqualified as a director.
he's basically not been seen near the club since everything blew up again.
Nani was poor til his sending off. 4 games missing then 4 great performances is fine, we'll use Valencia the rest of the time. Giggs is out too, which i'm quite happy with if it will mean Park will play and we can have some passes to the strikers from the left wing.
some shocking refereeing in both the big games it seems.
being a spurs fan must be pretty horrible.
looks like Keane has proved me wrong and taken Scotland by storm.
It just proves that our league is BRILLIANT and not actually only the 13th best league in Europe...
arent those rankings mainly done on which teams win the league/get into europe? with a pool of 12 teams theres going to be less obviously.
what are the rankings?
2 points for a win, 1 point for a draw, then divide by the number of qualifying teams in Europe (so divide by 7 for England, divide by 5 for Scotland). Half points are awarded for the preliminary rounds of both competitions.
After that, there's bonus points to the country based on the stage reached - 4 points for reaching the group stage of the Champions League, an extra point for reaching the knock out stages and suchlike.
Add up the coefficient for the last 5 seasons, then rank each nation in order.
if could'ves were dids then him and Owen would be the best strikers around atm. as it is they've done nothing but fail to live up to promise for at least the last half decade.
did he say anything mean?
"Everybody drops points everywhere."
and the rest of the league. Abysmal game, so sloppy and lacking in any genuine pace, strength, accuracy and skill for two such big sides..depressing. Degen is the worst player to start for us in ages, and that's saying something. Useless twat. How the ref missed the Fabregas handball I have no idea..still, we didn't deserve anything out of the game, why Rafa waited so long to make an attacking substitution is baffling. Thoroughly miserable season. At least chelsea lost I suppose..cunts. Spuds slipping up held us too. Pffft. Stupid football.
He has a massive arse fairdos. Its approaching Floyd-Hasselbaink proportions.
And it is to his credit. Sadly, he also seems to be semi-terrified about defending, which is a concern.
who you know is going to completely balls up a relatively simple clearance or pass once or twice a game. He's quite good in other respects, but that fundamental lack of confidence in his defending ability isn't exactly what you look for in a top defender.
Only 21 isn't he? Seems like a classic young full back, good going forward, bit all over the place positionally. Just like Cashley used to be and the Da Silvas, Traore and Gibbs are now.
Playing under Rafa he's bound to improve defensively, just might have any creativity or flair beaten out of him in the process.
Degen came on as a second half substitute.
Short, looks like Jimmy Krankie. What's not to love?
i mean i've got a big head myself but at least my limbs are a normal size. looked an awful player too.
Kelly is the only one of your youngsters i've seen that impressed me. well, eccleston too but that was in reserves
I like to see scousers brought through Melwood but his last match - Fiorentina maybe? - was an absolute nightmare.
I'm more worried about how poor Maxi Rodriguez is. You expect an experienced winger to at least be able to cross a ball. He can't do that.
We had nothing going forward last night. And again, as ever, as soon as Gerrard dropped deeper, we looked better. He works well when he's got Torres up front, but that's because Torres can run with the ball, unlike NGoG.
This has been the most miserable season I can remember since 2003/4. What makes it even worse is that last season was our most enjoyable. We won nothing but we had an amazing belief and attitude about us.
I'm pretty gutted for Chester City FC, they've been bled dry for years by Vaughan and his cronies so he can launder his drug money. Frankly it's a disgrace that anyone with his track record was allowed anywhere near the club in the first place..
Better news though, I'm an Evertonian and we finally beat Chelski! Much deserved too, we worked incrediably hard and at times outpassed Chelsea, which I never thought I'd see. If we don't try and sign Donovan up too, there is something wrong, he was best player on the pitch last night.
this could tip you over the edge. I quite like it though
Although credit where it's due (and actual credit too, not 'they know when to foul' credit... wink wink) Everton were fantastic. Christ knows why there were so poor for the first few months of the season, 'cos they're a decent side and one that I'd rather watch over the three or four sides directly above them. Saha is odd though, never really rated him but I think that's because the team I saw him play for most was Newcastle.
Doesn't change much in the scheme of things for me... My belief that Arsenal won't win the title is based on my opinion that they aren't strong enough to and not current table maths and, although I'll take a two or one point lead after 38 games, neither is a sufficient lead at this point anyway. Away form will have to be worked on but I trust us to put in bigger performances at White Hart Lane, Anfield and Old Trafford than I do at Hull and Burnley (perhaps misguidedly).
The biggest question for me is who really lost an opportunity last night, Chelsea or United?
After 90 mins, United.
is partly due to the fact that it makes for more exciting TV being a 3 horse race, and also down to the fact they've now had their tricky run. Whilst hardly doing great out of it (4 pts out of 12) they have been reliably good this season at destroying the smaller, mid table sides which Chelsea and united have struggled with a bit, away from home.
So if they continue to do so, they'll be up there or pretty close...
So it's not inconceivable that we could take around 30 points from our remaining 12 games. Christ knows how many points will win the league this season, but that wouldn't put us far off.
However there are some right bastards of away games - Brum, Hull, Stoke, Blackburn - which is precisely the sort of games we'd drop points in under the pressure of a title run-in. Murdering the bottom half sides at the Emirates is one thing, picking up points in must wins at those sort of places is quite another.
This is news.
He must have looked at all the shit he owns and gone 'Fuck! If forgot to get one of those!'. Like doing the shopping and getting home to find you forget the butter.
Branson contemplated buying us, before the Orange one took us over.
If Palace get Branson and we're stuck with BriaCUNT, I'll be unimpressed
Whether that's joy at Big Rich coming in or relief that Orange Jordan is leaving, I don't know.
he would've done it by now. he's not a palace fan is he?
his reactions and reflexes are top-notch. seriously though, watched the replay again there, what was he thinking? hilariously silly thing to do
There's about 15 other Premier League goalkeepers better than him.
From most angles it looks like the ball would probably have smacked him in the face anyway, but his arm's on it's way up before Gerrard strikes it so quite what he was doing I'm not sure.
I really love Thomas Vermaelen. He looks terrifying with his shiner and his reaction to Gallas' tackle on Ngog was great to see after 2 years of Billy and Kolo refusing to look at each other.
also seen gallas giving almunia a fist-pump, which was nice considering they supposedly don't make eye contact or speak
Does last nights results change your mind from who you said yesterday?
i still think Wolves (they can't play spurs again this year) and Pompey are goners, West Ham are still the questionable one for me. They had to win last night and deserved it by all accounts, did any of the Wham fans on here go last night?
I suspect Portsmouth obviously. And you pretty much know Wolves will do.
So, as these things usually go, I'd say it'd come down to a dramatic finale. Either Sunderland will continue their fall from grace, resulting in Bruce being fired and them going down anyhow or a showdown between Bolton and Burnley with lots of papers debating for weeks on end if Coyle did the right thing leaving or not.
unless one of the others categorically collapses, those three are nailed on.
yknow, doesnt matter it was through cheating or anything.
well done fab.
Which I guess is in keeping with his assertions that he'd never cheat to win matches
Carry on, maybe you won't be playing Rochdale next year.
"I don't think I disgraced myself"
Way to give away the result.
So Bentley is playing well and doing ok, but basically you tell the world that the moment Lennon's fit you'll drop him regardless because you essentially just don't like him?
which is no great surprise considering Lennon's superb form.
Bentley was behaving like a bit of a fool by all acounts earlier in the season, but seems to have knuckled down now that his chance has arisen.
If you look closely, this is a bit of a non-story.
he'd be doing a near perfect Garth Crooks impression.
Out for 3 months and now a World Cup doubt:
Bad news, or kinda funny?
Looks like it's time for either Bridge, Baines or Warnock to shine....Bridge is in the driving seat at the moment given his experience but Baines is better so I'd go with him
Cheslea should be fine with Zhirkov, Ivanovic, Boswinga and Ferreira all able to play L/B
but it's Bridge's place to walk into
coming for rooney, gerrard and barry next.
i see the plan in his loan signing. what a hero.
Trembling's sold the club for £1 to some former Lincoln chairman leaving the club £1.5million in debt. That's all gone a bit sour non?
well, apart from ridsdale at cardiff obvs.
one ENGLISH DONT DIVE
two he didn't even do it with any style or believability