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When are you going to do the in-depth analysis of why Friends is shitty and immoral? I'm looking forward to it.
I may contribute if asked
Just dumps the baby whenever it suits her. So many episodes where "kookiness" is happening and you're thinking: "Where the fuck is the kid? Why haven't social services been called?"
that episode where ross and joey take a little girl hostage and trap her in a room full of big shiny balls and spin her round until she's disoriented and crap is CREEPY AS FUCK
She had a huge rant about how they're all IMMORRAL and just talk about SEX and how joey doesn't respect WOMEN and how their lifestyles are against GOD and how she on't let her daughter watch it.
I'll provoke her into a rage and record it if you want.
honesty might as well not exist in the Friends universe. Everyone is a two faced, bitching cunt who would rather drag out an unreasonable farce for 30 minutes than actually say what they mean. There's an unsavoury attitude to all those that don't fit in with the bourgeouise boheme purple walled inner sanctuary of the characters, one of disgust and mistrust. It does nothing but promote the commercialised, conservative, shit 90s haired nature of the period it grew up in. And they all hate blacks
"One point can be made about Rachel not being racist. She dated the ethnic Paolo in season 1 and in an episode of season 2. No matter how many searches I do on Google I cannot find where Paolo is from, but it's possibly somewhere in South America. In a particularly hard-hitting episode Paolo goes to Phoebe to get a massage. While getting the massage, Paolo got a boner, which is natural even if it was from Lisa Kudrow. Phoebe was absolutely disgusted by Paolo's throbbing member. The question is: was she disgusted because he was having a fling with Rachel or because he is not quite white?"
There's something reassuringly predictable about an ostensibly satirical academic dissection of a TV show devolving into rather nasty anti-Semitic comments unsaved by any redeeming irony.
"Think about her biggest interests: massaging, not believing in evolution, psychics and playing the guitar. None of these things have any place in black culture. It can't be a mistake that she decides to devote her life to things that have no relevance to other races."
i dunno man....i might start it soon. was probably gonna post about it on here, see if peoples had any thoughts....see if anyone knows what i'm going on about
basically, the main drive will be the absurdity of it being hailed as wholesome haha viewing when it's completely morally bankrupt.
like, compare it to seinfeld. at least that show was open about the flaws of the characters...it's the way friends is always portrayed as being sweetness and light, but really, when you stop and think, it's fucking bankrupt
for example, last week pheobe was talking about getting her boyfriend to perform a certain move in the bedroom. she whispered it to joey and he walked out in disgust...JOEY!
if you don't just breeze past the hilarity of joey pulling a funny face, and phoebe being a bit kooky, you realise that phoebe was probably proposing something along these lines
phoebe....from friends....wanting that
either way, it isn't something young kids and families should have thrust into their minds
in the same episode, monica and chandler ruin a couples hope of becoming parents by guilt tripping the mother giving the baby up for adoption, and joey decides that he would rather eat a bit of cake than continue to court a beautiful woman. no doubt she would have been up that night wondering why the date, which had been going so well, was suddenly cut short because some fucking guido wanted a bit of gateaux. in turn, her self esteem would have taken a massive blow, and it might have been some time before she could have gone with a man to an establishemnt that serves food again.
this was meant to be the second link
talking about doing that
Chuckling as we speak, but trust what has instantly become my favourite _W quote to be based on repetition of a letter I have to ctrl+V.
still no g's
And with it, the letter .
But still I managed to write this post.
However, I would love to get right in amongst a slaying of the atrocity that is sex and the city. Partly because I believe it to be so, but also because Martbowski will be vastly entertaining in his sputumous rebuttal, and we've not seen enough of him recently.
you ok with that?
a) does it make sense, have some room to move? i don't just wana look like some guy ranting about friends. is there a strong argument that's it's moral compass is pointing in the wrong direction from the show's reception and place in the heart of america.
b) if there is a case, would anyone bother to read my ramblings?
it would be a pretty epic undertaking...i know where i can borrow the dvd's, but there must be literature on the idea of friends i'd have to find. and then having to place it in the context of american sitcomes, that would take research.
i don't just want it to be random muck flinging ala, mart in the city. which is good like, but a bit...dunno...randomly ranty. i want it to strike at the heart of what the show stands for...or something.
i know this all sounds stupid and over the top, but i won't end up doing it otherwise unless i plan it properly. and if i don't plan and think properly, it will just descend into paragrpahs and paragraphs of talking about joey's promiscuity and then cutting and pasting pictures from hardcore porn sites to show what he's really talking about.
Do it, do it, do it.
and i've still got my uni work to do.
i probably need to start by comparing joey to ted dansen in cheers, as representations of womanizers in beloved sitcoms
'On Friends Joey was a womanizer but we enjoyed his exploits. He was a solid friend, a guy you knew you could count on' kevin bright
why did we enjoy his exploits? there is a quote form the guy that write mad men where he says, your lead male character can get away with anything, as long as he is good at his job.
but joey is shit at his job. so the reason we allow him to get away with his exploits is because he is dependable guy. is that enough? you can be a cunt to countless numbers of people, but as long as you are there for five others, it's ok.
that's not the sort of society i want to live in.
this is interesting
'Following the September 11 attacks, ratings increased 17% over the previous season as viewers tuned in for comfort'.
it's like we'd forgive any transgression, as long as they just make sure they have coffee in the same place.
We had six friends who were attractive, loyal, attractive, caring, economically comfortable, tightly-knit, warm and kind-hearted and, yes, attractive.
In reality we have perhaps two or three people we would trust with our lives, and even with these we feel a slight paranoia at the end of the night out lest we've said anything to upset our social standing with them. Even something as trivial as walking uninvited into a friend's home to borrow sugar or milk is a strict no-no in the real world.
On Friends, they weren't so much friendships of convenience (as, sadly, most real-world friendships are); they had hand-on-heart, to-the-core *relationships* with each other which were stronger than family ties. Who wouldn't want to be part of that group, especially as, during the 90s, Western society marched even further into the free-floating, chaotic maelstrom of longer working hours, twinkling gadgets, social fragmentation and hyper-modern anxiety? << That's where the post-9/11 ratings in particular came in.
Postmodern ideas of abstruse narratives, multiform thinking patterns and dystopian misery were shunted in favour of Joey...getting hit by his mates...while his head was wrapped in clingfilm.
I really dont want Michael to deconstruct this little light of mine.
It's oiks like us that are abolishing the simple pleasures.
this was the facade...this is what we were all tricked into thinking.....but just look a little deeper and it's all hollow. it fooled us into thinking that these were perfect relationships, but they weren't...
it was like the friends are just acting out the ideal of what friendship should be about which in turn, viewers wnated their friendships to be like...but really, even the friends weren't that good friends and they just relied on lots of hugging and saying sorry.
real friendship is sticking together through the soggy bedsits and shattered dreams and threatening landscapes and suffocating alienation, like tim and daisy in spaced...it's hard to be friends when you're both unemployed in a grotty flat in a grey, counting pennies for pints london atmosphere
anyone can be friends in the glamorous 'friends' environment because it's so conducive to friendship. they were such good pals because it was so fucking easy to be friends..cool...hang out...have a beer...catch the knicks game...dish the goss....get that girls number....easy.
...we've never really experienced the trials and tribulations of ''soggy bedsit'' friendship, have we.
Maybe we should go white water rafting.
Owen Newitt in 'Vicar Of Dibley''.
It's insinuated throughout the series that he fucks animals. Yes...he fucks animals.
i've sat there with my mum and laughed about a man possibly putting his penis in a duck's arsehole.