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then I would divide the baby's weight by mine and multiply that with the cost.
occurred before the baby came. Cots, car seats, buggies, all that kinda stuff which it's pretty easy to get caught up in spending unnecessarily high amounts of money on. Once she arrived it was mostly nappies, milk and clothes which tended to put an extra £10-£15 on the weekly shop.
£780/12 = £65
Although it's worth pointing out that you do in fact proabably end up spending less than usual as in my experience you're far too tired to go out anymore to gigs, football or whatever you do to keep yourself amused.
my social life has completely and utterly come to a standstill. Haven't been to a gig since Oct '07, only spent £27 getting into football matches in 2009, spend £3 on bottles of wine instead of a fiver. It's all about Sky Plus and Football Manager these days.
You need to get yourself to a gig young man. I guess I was just thinking about the first year where my brain regularly capsized due to lack of sleep and lack of spending money on ME.
as my wife's only gone back part time and we're paying childcare 2 days a week. If we have a few quid left at the end of the month then we'll have a takeaway, and we're saving for a number of trips away for weddings etc this year.
It's been nothing but weddings for about 5 years now with you guys.
this year. I think.
and the mayonaise was ripe?
[insert screen-grab of 14 tabs all vigourously asking the same question]
In your face, nerd.
based on that being probably the section of your wages that goes to feeding and clothing you and while a baby would eat less it will also need nappies and all kinds of items like prams and the like.
so we've almost finished our first year. I'd have to sit and think about the cost, but it isn't as much as people think. It's the years afterwards that cost a fortune, babies are cheap. Let's try to work this out.
Pram/Buggy: £400 (more for a 'bugga-boo', less for cheaper ones)
Blankets / sheets / baby-grows (one-sies) / muslin squares : £100
Car seat: £200
Total initial outlay = £900
Running costs to come...
of the buggy world.
You'd have thought McLaren would have that market sewn up.
...hell are muslin squares?
Muslin squares...exactly what I thought. Turns out they're just a bit like teatowels really, just for babies. Cleans up sick, dribble, etc. Always have one over your shoulder when holding the baby if you want to keep you clothes clean.
We're only 4 months in but there hasn't been a drastic change as yet. Mainly because friends & family seem to just love piling stuff on you, especially thet grandmothers..."I was out today and i just saw this little outfit and thought of him", etc. We've got enough clothes for him already to get through the first year. Then it's just £10 - £15 a week for the food, nappies, etc.
He goes into nursery in April though so that's when I expect it to hit hard.
It's the nursery that costs a lot. But then we live in London and pay a staggering £1204.88 per month for his nursery. And it's not even the most expensive in the area, not by a long way!
That's a bloody obscenity.
That is staggering. Makes it almost not worthwhile going to work, huh?
So while it's no cheap hell hole, it's also nothing like the truly expensive parts of London. Every other nursery in Wimbledon costs the same, sometimes more.
...that said, I think we're only putting him in for 1 day a week so that does save us quite a bit.
so actually about same as yours once I've done calculations actually. Worth it though for convenience (right next to my work) and standard - there were glowing references from friends.
Wouldn't be able to afford much more than 2 days a week in there though if we had to. There were some a bit cheaper but we found you do tend to get what you pay for. There's some you wouldn't leave a dog in!
bad grammar...think I was still in shock at the reult of calculations
Utterly incredible scenes.
How can it possibly be worth going back to work, all things considered?
Baby Food: £5-£10 (reduce value if you make your own)
Nursery fees: £300pw (London) £150-200 elsewhere
Toys: average £2-5 pw
Totak weekly running cost: max £340 pw
Assume child is at nursery from 4 months, Total cost for year:
Additional loss to mother's (or father's earnings):
1st six weeks of maternity leave paid at 90% of salary. Remaining weeks paid at £117 pw. Assume 6 months leave:
6 weeks at 90%
18 weeks at £117 pw
Total loss for normal weekly wage of £400:
Normal THP for 24 weeks: £9600
Actual THP: 2160 + 2106 = £4266
Grand total first year cost: £23,914
Probably more like £15,000 elsewhere
Also, are you serious about the London costs being so much more? I'm not so sure it would be as much as £8K different.
My son's nursery costs £1204.88 per month. Whereas the nursery my sister works in in Cornwall charges about £700 per month.
If your child is in nursery for 8 of the first 12 months, then it makes a massive difference.
My wife is an accountant, and her take home pay barely covers the nursery. If she earned a bit less, it wouldn't be worth her going back to work (in the short term that is)
So why bother going back to work?
Total max weekly cost is £340? 340 * 52 = £17,680.
But then if the child is gonna be at nursery from four months (so only 8 months at max weekly cost), then the subtotal is gonna be much less..
Your missus is ripping you off son.
But good point about the nursery only being for 8 months. My bad.
Recalculated total: £16,314.
So yeah, probably about £10,000 for outside of London.
Good shout, ta.
what are you using - the wings of fairies, bathed in pixie milk?
That's what baby wipes are, aren't they?
So yeah, maybe that was a bit of an exageration. Perhaps £3 is more like it?
start-up costs vary greatly. we had loads of friends who lent us the basics (moses basket, cot etc).
But we bought our own:
buggy + car seat + nice clicky car seat base = £450
Ongoing costs vary. We bought resusable nappies (outlay: £250. Wouldn't bother tbh, bit of a faff). Disposables are probably about £7 per week. Clothes will need replacing every three months for the first year but loads of people will buy / knit you stuff. I'd say £60 every three months should cover it. But costs vary so much.
There are loads of sundries like baby monitors, sterilisers etc. Probably about £150 worth. Find a local NCT for a nrealy-new sale - great for toys.
Food - depends on whether breastfed or bottlefed (no idea about the latter). we tend to make a lot of her food in batches
Mrs CCB was on maternity leave for the first eight months so we didn't pay for childcare. She's now back in work just one day a week. (I guess the main cost is lost income in that we now have 1.2 salaries rather than 2!)
So yeah, there's a few pointers.
Please, please, please regard the content of the OP as strictly hypothetical. Please...
Posts like this push me towards the Foreign Legion.
Would you still have posted that if you knew that my mum occasionally Googles my name to find out what I'm writing about on the internet?
That's a rhetorical question.
For her benefit, as well as yours: THIS ISSUE IS TOTALLY HYPOTHETICAL. REALLY.
Well, if everything goes to plan, sometime in the second half of SHUT THE FUCK UP DUDE YOU'RE KILLING ME HERE.
if you have any queries about names, please see here for inspiration:
While we're at it though, how would you estimate the costs of running and maintaining Robocop in his first year?
recallibration - £100 a month
When he wakes up screaming in the middle of the night, how many seconds will I have to comply?
I've made my decision. I KNOW it affects you but I'm not ready for this now...and it's MY body.
I swear to God, if you shave your beard off - we're done. Finito.
babies can be cheapish nowadays...big money is car seat, cot and pram probably can get reasonable all round for £600ish
excitable grandparents normally get one or other of the above items too
BFing is free for first six months, then feed them what you eat none of this jar malarkey..only a few extra pounds on normal shop
Clothes, sleeping bags and sheets can be got cheapish nowadays, but for a year I'd say £200
Nappies, supermarket ones are fine about fiver a week.
Toys, bouncers etc probably another £150
No idea about childcare although reading this thread I'm wanting to move to London to be a childminder (my new job to be!)
So can probably all be done for a grand, if sensible. Also co-sleep and you don't need a cot at least for a few months...bargain.
Medically, the amount of time everyone here has spent in front of a screen arguing about cardigancore or food that looks like Ray Winstone should be more than enough to render every one of you sterile
but there is (was?) some tax relief available for childcare, which in itself also becomes cheaper once they turn 3.
Costs us £1,100 a month to send two litlluns ro nursery for three days a week.
Breastfeed for as long as you can, it's both cheaper and more convenient.
Don't worry about social expenditure, that will rapidly dwindle to zero.
The value of your son's favourite cuddly toy being Saints teddy, and that he'll jump with his arms in the air shouting YAY SAINTS! when prompted is immesurable
The WHO recommends breastfeeding for the first 2 years, so that's food sorted. What else do you need? Unless you want a designer tot (urgh) clothes can be really cheap. You can buy a second hand buggy/car seat, and you'll get shitloads of peresents and toys when it's born anyway. One eof my friends is a single mum and actually signifcantly better off now that she's at home with the baby all the time instead of being out of the piss and snorkelling £200 worth of gak every week.
DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO TELL US STEALTHY? :-D
<heart starts pumping again>
Also, my mate lives with her retiRed parents, so childcare isn't an issue. CHIldcare costs seem to be the rela fucker in the equation.
SO STEALTHY, DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO TELL US???
Yes. I'm pregnant. I was going to wait until my boobs got massive, but I guess the cat's out of the bag now...
I hope you've got yourself a decent maternity bra.
and leaving you a broken husk of a man.
That was the most tender embrace I've ever had during a football match. I actually felt really happy with life for the rest of the day.
I was always told that babies come from mummies and daddies having a special cuddle.
and can't play pinball either.
No thank you!
Basically, probably your entire disposable income.
The woman I'm covering for at work can't currently afford to come back because the cost of her childcare x2; well she can, but she'd be doing it for a tenner a day. + her and her husband work for an investment bank.
generous friends and family are. me and the missus coped quite well. didnt put the nipper into nursery till after she was one....wasnt financially worth it.