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Obviously their right to free speech needs to be respected, but it doesn't mean that people aren't going to be mightily pissed off by what they will see as disrespect.
it is their democratic right to do so.
I can only hope, that the crushing irony of our willingness to grant them the freedom to protest, in the face of their utter intolerance of all those outside of the fundamentalist muslim paradigm causes them to spontaneously combust.
that sounds like nonsense though, unless it's just counting all the soldiers from all the military bases around there as being 'from' Wootton Bassett. The reason it's been in the news is because all dead British soldiers are flown back there.
This extremist group sound like dickwads. As do all extremist groups.
and pass through Wootton Bassett en route to the coroner in Oxford.
I don't think anyone who comes out to honour the dead at wootton bassett cares about the politics. I just think its to grieve the loss of human life. So Islam4uk will just be shooting themselves in the foot if they actually go ahead with this.
I hope the "liberal elite" get off their arses and condemn/protest this because if they don't it'll just mean more fuel for the BNP. It'll be interesting to see how they react actually. They've condemned the war from the start, and this is essentially an anti war protest. Albeit one which is completely misinformed and in ridiculously bad taste.
No, let me guess, you're not too fond of this organisation?
no matter what their intentions i can't imagine it ending in anything other than bad vibes
surely marching through westminster would be more relevant.
Are you suggesting that we should mourn the deaths of the Afghans that are being killed by other Afghans/foreign insurgents with the same reverence that we show for our fellow countrymen/women in the British armed forces?
Maybe you do, but you're in a tiny minority.
These people have chosen Wootton Bassett as a provocation, I hope nobody rises to it.
Islam4UK appear to be a bunch of utter fucktards...
It really isn't hard to believe orders are given out for murders of civilians, there are plenty of examples throughout military history of massacres and unlawful murders against citizens in the occupied country.
Anyway, sounds like a just cause, but the way they have gone around the subject is totally wrong. I agree with the post above, Parliament would have been a much better location to launch your campaign.
they don't understand do they?
The bodies of the soldiers came through wootton bassett for logistical reasons and the people of the town took it upon themselves to show a mark of respect to the fallen soldiers....to give them a respectful repatriation into the country and these fuck head idiots are almost taking the shine off this town.....It should be known as a place of respect and reflection for those who lost their lives serving.
Basically what this muslim cunts are saying is 'yeah that's great you're respecting the soldiers, but what about all the muslims eh? WHAT ABOUT US!'
couldn't have chosen a worse location.
and it isn't right to call them fuck head idiots or muslim cunts...for obvious reasons that was wrong, but I still stand by the fact that they SHOULD NOT be doing this...maybe they need to show their respect for their dead in a Mosque...surely that would have more significance than wootton bassett??
I'm by no means a fan of Anjem Choudary, but really. Way to miss the point.
It put me in mind of the boxes you get pizza in from high street kebab/chicken places, that read "Pizza Hot 4U!"
with the logo made up like phones4U. lovely stuff.
but they do a decent £2.99 sunday night cod and chips offer.
and machine gun them at leg level. Then the mothers/widows/children of our fallen heroes can provide the coup de grace with pistols supplied by regimental officers. This will maybe provide them with a sense of closure and send out a message that we have enough eastern europeans in this country
will mean we don't need to crouch to machine gun them at leg level.
i'd make a point of not leaving the house to avoid giving Islam4UK (and the EDL, im guessing they're going to make an appearance) that they're so desperate for.
im going to go back to the darts.
This is that Chaudhry wally isn't it? He gets the usual oxygen of publicity from the press, and they get a useful pantomine villain.
I have to agree with cliche further up the page: Why are the left so quiet on this matter? Interesting, isn't it?
Mr Choudary would do well to channel his energies towards fighting Islamic radicalism (although I suppose this would be tantamount to asking him to fight against his friends) rather than needlessly provoking and upsetting the good people of Wootton Bassett, specifically fighting Islamofascism in the countries where it poses the most threat: Afghanistan and Iraq. Like it or not, the biggest threat to Muslims in the Middle East is radicalised Muslims, friends.
Oh, and "Welsh Defense League"? What the fuck is there to defend? A lake, a sheep and two fish and chip shops?
You do realise you've just equated Unite Against Facism with the entire 'left' side of this county?
I imagine it's how a lot of them behaved during the late-sixties/early-seventies, when communism was all the rage and some of the diehards even supported Pol Pot. What a fucked up world.
is a reasonable guy, rather than the equivalent of an internet troll, constantly angling for attention and trying to get a rise out of people. 'Channel his energies'? He's only interested in winding the press up, and they make it so easy for him.
My whole point was that rather than act like an internet troll, why doesn't he actually do something constructive with his anger?
But someone must be encouraging him.
does not make "using threatening, abusive, insulting words and behaviour likely to cause harassment, alarm and distress to others" acceptable.
take him down
and all of them revere a schizophrenic paedophile and bloodthirsty war criminal. But I wouldn't gather outside my mate's mosque and scream this at him and his family and friends as they went in/came out. There's legitimate political/theological protest and then there's just making a dick of yourself.
BTW, I support the Muslim extremists' right to chant all of that shit, but only if they are willing to deal with the reaction, be it legal or otherwise, they provoke in other people.
The same goes for those wankers in God Hates Fags, of course, and every other extremist cult out there.
Why are all of the women in the stories on the right hand side naked? The Mail is getting a bit risque for the new year.
fucking hell you're right aswell! I completely missed that first time reading that article.
and unsupported by any other islamic groups in britain. the guy behind it has almost zero support, apparently organises all sorts of demonstrations to which nobody turns up. the media, as always are merely feeding him publicity. pure publicity stunt and will hopefully not be allowed. not for political reasons, and i don't like the whole parading the late soldiers through that town, but for shere decency and respect for both the soldiers and the civilian afghan / iraqi victims of this ridiculous conflict. this idiot's so-called protest in the name of those civilian victims, in my opinion, actually dishonours them by using them as a propoganda tool.
I'm torn. On the one hand, to a certain extent I agree with this march. British Soldiers are dying in Afghanistan, and that is a sad thing. At the same time, hundreds of innocent civilians are also dying, which is also terribly tragic. Yet the media coverage of the former grossly outweighs the latter, even though the latter has borne the majority of casualities. I do think it is hypocritical to mourn the death of soldiers whilst turning a blind eye to the deaths of civilians (for whatever reason they may have died) who have had no active part in this war.
On the other hand, this is a stupid idea. For one, I fail to see how this is a 'muslim issue'. Human life is human life. Although, yes, the vast majority of civilians killed, if not all, are muslim, marching for 'muslim civilian deaths' as opposed to just 'civilian deaths' places the emphasis on 'The West Oppressing Islam', which may in the minds of some islamic fundamentalists go to support jihad against 'the west'. Are they any secular anti-war groups supporting this march? There certainly aren't any British Muslim groups supporting it, last time I heard.
Secondly, this is bound to attract unwanted attention from the british far right. It is simply asking for trouble. If Islam4UK are gunning for confrontation, then I expect they'll get what they're asking for. Either way, something as blatently confrontational as this is not going to win the hearts and minds of the general british public. They'd do much better marching on Westminster, i think.
to make it clear, is that even though it is Islam4UK who will bear the brunt of the far right's fury, there is the potential for all british muslims and muslims living the UK to be ostracized as a result of this. I think that's why there are no muslim groups in the UK who are willing to openly support this march.
highlighting the issues that this proposed one claims to want to highlight, but wooton bassett is not the appropriate place to do it. and the way it has been approached does serve to fuel biggotry against the muslim population. i think this is exactly what the mastermind behind it wants...